We have ogden that could be a wrecking bull but pay would rather pick chris smith
I think Ogden and To'omaga have been pumped up a little to high.
No doubt Ogden adds more impact than Smith, though they are different types of players.
When you look at our last crop of forwards who came through our grades - Kasiano, Tapau, Jackson, Finucane, Klemmer - Ogden and To'omaga are nowhere near as capable and influential at the same stage of there careers.
tbh, over the last few years we have had crapolla come up through our grades. The only one who looks promising to me is Brandon Wakeham