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god is all knowing and he created women, meaning as he created women he knew that one of them would help the devil and he continued to make her, so its not a smart move by god or he doesn't care that much or he wants to be a victim
the concept of the devil was always a reference to the ego until the church had other ideas.. ego can be for our benefit, but can also be a detriment... it can drive us, but it can also pull us down if WE let it
 

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the concept of the devil was always a reference to the ego until the church had other ideas.. ego can be for our benefit, but can also be a detriment... it can drive us, but it can also pull us down if WE let it
You don’t believe in hell or Satan? Christ references both in the book of revelations which ironically is a book Martin Luther tried to have pulled out of the bible. Same with the book of James, until his own supporters said no that’s too far now.
 

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The Catholic Church sings hyms not hers and you must respond amen not awomen.
Jesus Christ was a man.
And if we are to believe in the Christian Jesus, he is God, making God male just as his masculinity has always been referenced in the old and new testaments.
 

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god is all knowing and he created women, meaning as he created women he knew that one of them would help the devil and he continued to make her, so its not a smart move by god or he doesn't care that much or he wants to be a victim
I understand what you’re saying, but we can’t apply our own knowledge to God. If we are to believe that God is all knowing and all powerful, how can we even sit here thinking we can understand anything he does? But then that takes faith and trust and not everyone has that. They have climate change and women.
 

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I understand what you’re saying, but we can’t apply our own knowledge to God. If we are to believe that God is all knowing and all powerful, how can we even sit here thinking we can understand anything he does? But then that takes faith and trust and not everyone has that. They have climate change and women.
but if god is everything then the only possibility is that he created the devil

during the creative process from thin air for the entity that would become the devil, god created the ingredients that he knew would become the devil unless he turns off his psychic ability because he wants to be surprised, but even then god doesn't just flick him away instantly

so I think everyone owes the devil an apology because he is only doing his job
 

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but if god is everything then the only possibility is that he created the devil

during the creative process from thin air for the entity that would become the devil, god created the ingredients that he knew would become the devil unless he turns off his psychic ability because he wants to be surprised, but even then god doesn't just flick him away instantly

so I think everyone owes the devil an apology because he is only doing his job
His job wasn’t to betray God. Angels have free will you know. That is why Satan will never be forgiven and be destroyed, he knew the truth, but was so consumed by ego and pride that he’d never obey Gods plan of angels bowing to a man.
 

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You don’t believe in hell or Satan? Christ references both in the book of revelations which ironically is a book Martin Luther tried to have pulled out of the bible. Same with the book of James, until his own supporters said no that’s too far now.

Hell and "Satan" are a product of the church, not scripture, hence why neither are taught in Judaism, nor were they taught pre church age... If you study the Hebrew and Greek texts, there is no suggestion of a firey place of eternal torment... Who would love, or even like a God that would create such a thing?
 

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His job wasn’t to betray God. Angels have free will you know. That is why Satan will never be forgiven and be destroyed, he knew the truth, but was so consumed by ego and pride that he’d never obey Gods plan of angels bowing to a man.
god installed the free will package into the lucifer and knew it would choose to be bad, he made it that way

if he didn't know then it proves he has limits
 

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His job wasn’t to betray God. Angels have free will you know. That is why Satan will never be forgiven and be destroyed, he knew the truth, but was so consumed by ego and pride that he’d never obey Gods plan of angels bowing to a man.
Rubbish, Lucifer is a specialist that aids the L.A.P.D.
 

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I just don't understand how god can be betrayed when he knows everything

that's like if god got married and caught his wife cheating and felt betrayed, ffs you are god you should have known she was a whore

my theory is god is a phony who created the devil to feel more appreciated, it reminds me of the bluffer meghan who claims to want a simple life out of the spotlight now after becoming an actress and marrying a prince
 

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Jesus Christ was a man.
And if we are to believe in the Christian Jesus, he is God, making God male just as his masculinity has always been referenced in the old and new testaments.
Why don't you ever mention Jesus's retarded brother Stanley?
 

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Hell and "Satan" are a product of the church, not scripture, hence why neither are taught in Judaism, nor were they taught pre church age... If you study the Hebrew and Greek texts, there is no suggestion of a firey place of eternal torment... Who would love, or even like a God that would create such a thing?
One of the lessons we learn from the Old Testament is with job. Sometimes, no matter how loyal we are to God, had shit will still happen, we may not know the reason why but God always had his plans. It’s ignorant to think we can think as God thinks and know what he knows. God doesn’t send people to hell for the sake of it, people choose Satan and hell over him. Judaism doesn’t teach about the devil that’s true, but you as a Christian should know Christianity is the fullfillment of judaism so to speak, so to say there’s no such thing as the devil coz Judaism doesn’t explicitly mention it, is cherry picking. Judaism doesn’t teach many things the New Testament does, should we ignore New Testament?
Not taught pre Church age? What is pre Church age? There’s been no breakage from Christ and his apostles to the church, you seem to be in history, have you researched about the church fathers like Ignatious of Antioch or poly carp of Smyrna? Both disciples of apostles of Jesus Christ. There’s been a continuation and never a breakage, that is why there is only one Catholic Church with one teaching, not 30,000 differing interpretations and teachings of the church like scattered sheep. If you actually are interested in learning(I’m not being a dick) then you’ll do yourself a great service of researching those great saints.

just to finish off, God did not create Satan as Satan, nor hell, Satan chose to rebel against God just as people rebel against God on earth. Do you think those people and Satan deserve to be in heaven? God isn’t a hippy bro, he has rules, just like our fathers on earth have rules, you do wrong you get punished. Loving God isnt about wanting to draw him as we see as ‘good’ or in a way where how can we love a god like that, it’s about accepting the truth, the truth isn’t always pretty, but truth is truth.
 
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