Regarding Josh Addo Carr

Should Josh Ado Carr be sacked?

  • Yes

    Votes: 151 48.7%

  • No

    Votes: 159 51.3%
  • Total voters
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Whether you like it or not (which I don't), this decision was likely made to free up a substantial salary and a top-30 roster slot.

Especially given that he's a 30-year-old, injury-prone, speed-reliant winger who isn't the metre-eater, which this team needs. Brian To'o wouldn't have been sacked in the exact same example.
 
Utility said:
Fair enough, that’s your opinion…but good luck trying to fill a roster if you want a team of no coke users. I don’t get the need for this zero tolerance stuff, mate. More successful clubs than ours currently is have forgiven players for a lot worse. And putting out negative stories about your own player… a player who has done a lot for the club. Just yuck! Bad taste, city!
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We signed a player from another club who was involved in a cubicle act.

Nearly the entire NRL does coke.
 
COVENS said:
Whether you like it or not (which I don't), this decision was likely made to free up a substantial salary and a top-30 roster slot.

Especially given that he's a 30-year-old, injury-prone, speed-reliant winger who isn't the metre-eater, which this team needs. Brian To'o wouldn't have been sacked in the exact same example.
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Critta and Burton wouldn't have been sacked. Rumours about Fox being on the outer with Gus circulated in the press 12 months earlier. Fox gave the opening Gus needed on top of having a very ordinary season and Gus didn't waste time.
 
Utility said:
I think Gus’s total control over the football department has been pretty well documented.

As for him being here for the money, that’s opinion, but I do believe there’s at least circumstantial evidence to suggest it isn’t a passion project.
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In other words, no proof, just unsubstantiated waffle.
Hi pot, meet kettle.
 
Utility said:
I think that’s pretty hyperbolic.

First of all, the police were satisfied enough that he wasn’t impaired to allow him to drive home, so I really wish people would stop saying he endangered lives… If he was a risk to anyone in the state he was in, he wouldn’t have been allowed to get behind the wheel. Coke can be traceable in a person’s body long after the effects have worn off.

Second of all, his family is his business. Who is anyone on this forum to say he let them down or question his commitment as a father? Is every father who enjoys a few beers while their wife is pregnant letting their family down? People should really stay in their lane with that sort of stuff. From all accounts his family is 100 percent behind him.

Yes, he got into trouble at a bad time for the club. But you know what? He also came to the club in its darkest days. He took a chance on being part of the rebuild of this place and he was the first really high profile player to do it. He captured the attention of kids at a time when they were short on heroes and our brand was a pretty hard sell. He helped pull in sponsors. He showed a passion for this club that I haven’t seen from any player since James Graham and Josh Reynolds left. He may have gotten into trouble before our first finals game in years, but as far as I’m concerned, he is also a big part of the reason we are playing finals again.

Whatever he has done to let this club down, I can guarantee he has done a lot more to lift it up. And after getting sacked, the first thing he did was post about his love for this club. He made a point of going on socials to let the fans know how much being a part of this club means to him. He thanked just about everyone involved in the club with one notable exception.

If you want to discount all of the good he has done for this joint, it’s really your call. But I find it a real bummer people can’t reflect on all the good he did for the club and forgive and forget.
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Gus was sacked after the 1989 season. Had a bitter fallout with Bullfrog. Gus wrote a book attacking Bullfrog and the club.

Fox after his sacking praised the players, coaches, fans and board. Players when they get sacked don't go out of their way to thank so many. Fox shouldn't be thanking the fans they all turned on him.
 
Magic Burton said:
Critta and Burton wouldn't have been sacked. Rumours about Fox being on the outer with Gus circulated in the press 12 months earlier. Fox gave the opening Gus needed on top of having a very ordinary season and Gus didn't waste time.
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Funny how people believe what’s written in the press when it suits their agenda but think journos make things up when it doesn’t.
 
Tassie Devil said:
Good post but I think you're missing the most important part of this whole saga.

At no point did / has JAC taken accountability for his actions.

At every point he tried to swerve and dodge answering the hard questions, continually shifting the goalposts with ever changing stories.

And this wasn't the first time.

For a team rooted in team work, accountability, mutual respect, putting in 120% for the player next to you ...

Not to be accountable for your actions is the biggest fuck you to that very culture the club is run on.
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Maybe he never knowingly took coke? Hes not gone to rehab like Ezra.

I find it interesting after all this time he’s still sticking to this story line. Maybe he is telling the truth and the tests weren’t 100%. How do you fail a roadside test and the cops don’t tell you to walk home?

Anyways it’s a shame his time has ended like this. His replacements are bog average and don’t bring any flair to the side.
 
InGusWeTrust said:
You know a club can penalise a player right? They don’t have to sack them. Just like the 22 other instances of players getting caught doing drugs in recent years. Hell, someone who did worse having driven on drugs and over the alcohol limit (Trindall) has stories about how great it is that Sharks just re-signed him lol. But we are the holier than thou club apparently.
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I have followed the game for almost 76 years, so I do know a thing or two.

I also know that the Dogs have standards, and are prepared to give leeway to players who have made mistakes. But, when it comes to deliberately misleading the club, where it puts the reputation of the team on trial, there must be higher standards.

Had JAC come clean, and admitted the truth, the club could have worked with him to manage his problem. He lied, and put the club in a position where it looked like we could be complicit in a cover up; setting a poor example for the team and the fans.

I love the passion and enthusiasm Josh displays on field, and the great tries he has scored for us. There is obviously something more to this than we know at this stage, and the club would not have made the decision lightly.
 
Chris Harding said:
I have followed the game for almost 76 years, so I do know a thing or two.

I also know that the Dogs have standards, and are prepared to give leeway to players who have made mistakes. But, when it comes to deliberately misleading the club, where it puts the reputation of the team on trial, there must be higher standards.

Had JAC come clean, and admitted the truth, the club could have worked with him to manage his problem. He lied, and put the club in a position where it looked like we could be complicit in a cover up; setting a poor example for the team and the fans.

I love the passion and enthusiasm Josh displays on field, and the great tries he has scored for us. There is obviously something more to this than we know at this stage, and the club would not have made the decision lightly.
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There are a few naive or extremely stupid people on here who either won’t read or can’t comprehend the last sentence in your post.
 
Magic Burton said:
Gus was sacked after the 1989 season. Had a bitter fallout with Bullfrog. Gus wrote a book attacking Bullfrog and the club.

Fox after his sacking praised the players, coaches, fans and board. Players when they get sacked don't go out of their way to thank so many. Fox shouldn't be thanking the fans they all turned on him.
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It’s called protecting his apparel brand..especially when the majority of his customers are bulldogs fans. Hopefully you’ll still go out of your way to keep buying his merch in support
 
Utility said:
Why should I feel sympathy for Gus? Gus isn’t the one who got unceremoniously dumped for a few bad decisions after giving his heart and soul to the club.

Fox deserved better. That’s what I honestly think.

I’m opting out of this chat now, because it’s clear you’re not not listening to my point of view. Frankly, I’m a little surprised by that.
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I'm listening and I've heard these excuses before

I've been in Gus shoes where you tell your staff to be upfront and honest and that we can work through it together, but they come to you with lies after a stuff up

Lies and cover ups are not treated well because it creates more shit, and I've also heard all the sob stories that come with those lies, more often than not those sob stories are BS.
 
Chris Harding said:
I have followed the game for almost 76 years, so I do know a thing or two.

I also know that the Dogs have standards, and are prepared to give leeway to players who have made mistakes. But, when it comes to deliberately misleading the club, where it puts the reputation of the team on trial, there must be higher standards.

Had JAC come clean, and admitted the truth, the club could have worked with him to manage his problem. He lied, and put the club in a position where it looked like we could be complicit in a cover up; setting a poor example for the team and the fans.

I love the passion and enthusiasm Josh displays on field, and the great tries he has scored for us. There is obviously something more to this than we know at this stage, and the club would not have made the decision lightly.
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Good comment, I agree. I'm only a supporter and game attendee since 1977 :grinning: though.
 

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Knights captain Kalyn Ponga blames toilet cubicle incident on food poisoning

Ponga addresses the media for the first time since last year's scandal, saying he was sick and "shouldn't have been out" at all on the night he and teammate Kurt Mann were ejected from a Newcastle pub bathroom.
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wasnt even doing drugs lol
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