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Humanity over time has ruined all religion..........
Yeah this is so true. I wouldn't even label it humanity, just shit humans. People have used religion as a means to whatever they want.

Being a priest or a shiekh or rabbih (whatever else) is actually a career path lol fucking ridiculous
 

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This is nothing new. These aged care facilities that take control of assets are all giant scams to steal money that destroy families while often not providing great care. I can't believe so many people agree to do it.

Religious organisations, especially ones that get such organisational/member based donations and huge grants/no tax from the government are nothing more than corporations masquerading as Religious institutions. It's all about money and religion is just the medium they use to exploit people.

But if people are dumb enough to give their hard earned money that they can't afford to spend, or sign over their house or parents house to get them in a prestigious nursing home through the church, then you can't feel too sorry for them for getting scammed by the Religious conmen.
 

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This is nothing new. These aged care facilities that take control of assets are all giant scams to steal money that destroy families while often not providing great care. I can't believe so many people agree to do it.

Religious organisations, especially ones that get such organisational/member based donations and huge grants/no tax from the government are nothing more than corporations masquerading as Religious institutions. It's all about money and religion is just the medium they use to exploit people.

But if people are dumb enough to give their hard earned money that they can't afford to spend, or sign over their house or parents house to get them in a prestigious nursing home through the church, then you can't feel too sorry for them for getting scammed by the Religious conmen.
True but sometimes it's all that's available.

Everybody has to pay to get into these Aged Care homes (unless you are on welfare or have no assets).

Another scam is... they started out as philanthropic enterprises for their communities. Rich local entrepeneur donates land, community partly fund raise for facilities and State and Fed Govt help out to build them. Federal governance and run as govt owned so facilities and care is to a decent standard. It's not profit driven.

Then Howard privatised aged care.

It's now like if hospitals were all privatised and run for profit and there was no Medicare. You can't have clean sheets-it costs. The food is even crappier. You cant have a shower cos theres no staff to help you. You wait an hour to be toileted. Theres no nurse available so you cant have a pain killer.

We wouldn't stand for it but the oldies are treated like that.

The existing homes got bought by privateers and profits become the driving force.

The whole sector has been run down by cost cutting. 3 meals a day for $10! A sausage roll and party pie for dinner. Stew for lunch.
Max of 3 pull ups (nappies) for the incontinent to last for 24 hours. No physiotherapist.

The latest scam is to sell off the buildings and infrastructure assets to a separate company. They are now responsible for yard, repairs and maintenance.

Thats affected by cut backs as well and probably siphoned off and charged out at exorbitant rates to the parent company. There's reduced mowing, gardening, painting, tap and fan repairs, air con etc.

It's not good.

It's terribly sad. These people are forgotten and treated like a burden on society and a cost to the bottom line and our Govt facilitates this message IMO.

The message to take out of this is...Make sure you show your love for your family. Be kind. Be generous with your time and do all you can for your children now... because sure as hell you are going to need their help and rely on them when you get old and frail and can no longer care for yourself.
 

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No need to get that nasty!!

Besides that place is full of flogs and bogans unlike this place which...wait a farking minute...
Flogs and bogans, exactly. Your kind.
 

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No need to get that nasty!!

Besides that place is full of flogs and bogans unlike this place which...wait a farking minute...
Now just hang on one minute....... nah carry on .concrete Jesus has taught me acceptance.
Concrete jesus is with modern times he's working on a proposal on how to get priests to stop fucking kids.........
Let them watch midget porn and whack off.
See concrete jesus is a thinker
 

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Nasheed here,
Why does op in every thread come and make threads and messages bashing the faith of the bulldogs and lebanese communities?

Some people say I am a troll, but here we have a ROOSTERS fan coming into OUR den and shitting all over Jesus and Mohammed at every opportunity.

This strikes at the heart of the community.
 

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Nasheed here,
Why does op in every thread come and make threads and messages bashing the faith of the bulldogs and lebanese communities?

Some people say I am a troll, but here we have a ROOSTERS fan coming into OUR den and shitting all over Jesus and Mohammed at every opportunity.

This strikes at the heart of the community.
Argue your case or get out!
 

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Nasheed here,
Why does op in every thread come and make threads and messages bashing the faith of the bulldogs and lebanese communities?

Some people say I am a troll, but here we have a ROOSTERS fan coming into OUR den and shitting all over Jesus and Mohammed at every opportunity.

This strikes at the heart of the community.
To be fair I can't recall him shitting over jesus or Mohammed at all. The corruption and bullshit organized religion is questioned and fair enough.
Concrete jesus says welcome back and like and subscribe and peace be on apon you
 

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Greek Orthodox Church took tens of millions in rent from aged care home at centre of deadliest COVID outbreak - ABC News

A group of taxpayer-funded aged care homes funnelled $31 million back into the coffers of one of Australia's largest churches, an ABC investigation has found.

The homes include St Basil's in Melbourne, where 45 residents died in Australia's deadliest COVID outbreak.

In the past eight years, St Basil's paid more than $22 million in rent and fees to the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese while receiving federal government funding.

A commercial real estate agent told Background Briefing this was double the rental market rate.

Towards the end of that period, the church was funding the lavish lifestyle of its newly appointed Archbishop, including the purchase of a $6.5 million Sydney apartment with harbour views.

Archbishop Makarios, who oversees the church's schools, parishes and aged care homes, arrived on Australia's shores in the middle of 2019 to much fanfare.

He was swamped by thousands at his enthronement in Sydney and photographed meeting the Prime Minister along with other political and business leaders.

"Until the end of my life, I belong to Australia," he declared, choking back tears.

But as he toured the country in his first months in charge, some in the church noted his lifestyle seemed excessive for a man who had taken a vow of poverty.

He was arriving at parishes in a black Holden Caprice with dark tinted windows, a flag and a personalised number plate ordered just for him: ARCHBM.

His ceremonial gowns of luxurious silks and wool in vivid hues, embroidered with gold thread, cost up to $30,000 each, according to sources linked to the church.

They were a stark departure from the conservative black cotton garments worn by his predecessor, the late Archbishop Stylianos.

Then in December 2019, the church bought him a new official residence in Millers Point, a luxurious apartment with sweeping views of Sydney Harbour and the Opera House.

It provoked outrage among the faithful, so in mid-2020 the Archdiocese issued a statement denying the Archbishop was living in the apartment.

But Background Briefing has observed Archbishop Makarios's Caprice entering and leaving the apartment complex.

The Archdiocese has now confirmed he moved in earlier this year.

Sources say before he moved in, a $3 million renovation was carried out.

The church said the renovation was paid for by a private donor.

The Archdiocese dismissed questions about the Archbishop's lifestyle as "discourteous and ill-founded", but concerns persist that funds from the Greek Orthodox Church's aged care homes are helping to pay for it.

Background Briefing has uncovered an extensive network of residential and commercial properties around Australia owned by the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese and overseen by the Archbishop.

But assets don't equal liquid cash.

The Archdiocese also owns 15 aged care homes dotted around Victoria, New South Wales, Western Australia, Queensland and South Australia, which receive aged care funding from the federal government.

Some of the church's aged care homes are passing money directly back to the church, with a total of $31 million transferred in the past eight years, often while homes are posting operating losses.


And you know what will happen...nothing! Just like the catholic church got away with raping children for decades, this church will get away with profiting off old people dying. They will never be required to repay what they ripped off.

The only good thing about these stories is they shed light on the real morals and ethics of churches and that is money, making it wherever and however possible regardless of the suffering it causes.
You like attacking religions, I must say I don't know much about non Christian religions, but to say that all the Christian Churches foster corruption and child molesting etc just proves just how sick you are.
Just for the record the Christian Churches preach the 10 commandments, which were handed to Mosses which were later reaffirmed by Jesus himself himself, sure a few Christians have failed to live by them, (no more than 5%) but the intensions of the churches have all been good
Tell me if their is something wrong with any of the commandments, eg. Don't kill don't steal, I guess the fact that you follow the most crocked club in the NRL tells me that you don't have any scruples, and with Politis who even looks like Satan you great leader, what standard can you possibly live by.
My suggestion to you is stay on the rotters fan sites if you have one, or are you here because you want to rub in to its followers the fact that our club is struggling, I know people close to some involved with your club want the Bulldogs and Rabbits eliminated from the comp.
 

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You like attacking religions, I must say I don't know much about non Christian religions, but to say that all the Christian Churches foster corruption and child molesting etc just proves just how sick you are.
Just for the record the Christian Churches preach the 10 commandments, which were handed to Mosses which were later reaffirmed by Jesus himself himself, sure a few Christians have failed to live by them, (no more than 5%) but the intensions of the churches have all been good
Tell me if their is something wrong with any of the commandments, eg. Don't kill don't steal, I guess the fact that you follow the most crocked club in the NRL tells me that you don't have any scruples, and with Politis who even looks like Satan you great leader, what standard can you possibly live by.
My suggestion to you is stay on the rotters fan sites if you have one, or are you here because you want to rub in to its followers the fact that our club is struggling, I know people close to some involved with your club want the Bulldogs and Rabbits eliminated from the comp.
*STANDING OVATION*
 
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