Liverpool stadium

[Nate DAWG]

Gov can acquire it if they want it for housing. Gov pay developers to build housing and if they can all make it work, tigers could get a free stadium?

So a tigers will just abandon Campbelltown. That mayor Mannoun is a slimey ****.

 

[S.B.W_Jnr]

Bullshit that's not true. Leagues club can stay there and training too.
The new stadium could have a 'memories lane', statues of past greats, create new memories while cherishing the past, have an open trophy room, etc.

The club is bigger than a handful of people walking down the road from their flats. You should be thinking for those fans past, now, and 50 years on. Respect the history while making the club bigger and better instead of being another St George stuck in the past

This.

 

[S.B.W_Jnr]

This is part of a political shit show we've been involved in. Basically put:

- Bulldogs opened plans for a new stadium back in 2015. Not just a stadium though. A stadium, plus Leagues club, and some other stuff. Liverpool council rejected it

- Bulldogs approached Liverpool council again with new plans, this time much bigger. A larger stadium, larger Leagues club along with many restaurants and hotels, two full apartment residential areas, parks, etc. A full precinct. $500 million development (which is pretty cheap for something this size). They even offered to allow local Liverpool clubs to play at the stadium for free. Again, Liverpool rejected it

- Liverpool council approached the Bulldogs and Tigers saying that they want a stadium but wouldn't accept the rest of the stuff the Bulldogs want (Leagues club, apartment blocks, restaurants, etc). Bulldogs rejected them

- Bulldogs approached the NSW government (NSW Planning) in an attempt to overrule Liverpool council. This is where we currently are at

This move is likely a political move by Liverpool council. They really don't want the Bulldogs to get their development (due to re-zoning issues), so my guess is that they have approached the Tigers to do a deal that will lock in a new stadium for the Tigers. If that happens, NSW planning are unlikely to overrule the council and that will be the end of the Bulldogs Liverpool project.

The club has a upper hand in this as we've got the land to make this happen in liverpool.
I think this time It could be different with this counsellor Ned who's pushing for it. The club and liverpool council should come to an agreement and make this happen. Both parties win.

 

[Trinfly]

First one I know of was 2015, but we probably had plans from a fair while back. I remember when we upgraded Belmore, during the early discussions there were plans to relocate instead of upgrading.

It was an impressive grandiose plan I thought the council would welcome with open arms employment, money flowing local community etc similar to Rooty Hill Vegas of the West but council had objections... maybe mid early 2000s

 

[BELMORE]

Liverpool is ripe for us I reckon… would be a good move if done correctly

 

[Hacky McAxe]

It was an impressive grandiose plan I thought the council would welcome with open arms employment, money flowing local community etc similar to Rooty Hill Vegas of the West but council had objections... maybe mid early 2000s

The issue Liverpool council has is that it requires not only re-zoning of the land, but they need to change the Liverpool environmental and development policies. The main reasons being that Liverpool doesn't have precinct development allowance, and they don't allow for buildings over 21 metres.

The planned development by the Bulldogs includes 10 buildings with most of them over 21 metres, and at least one building would be 77 metres.

If the policies were changed to allow this, then Liverpool would be flooded with requests for skyscrapers.

 

[jpneves]

This is part of a political shit show we've been involved in. Basically put:

- Bulldogs opened plans for a new stadium back in 2015. Not just a stadium though. A stadium, plus Leagues club, and some other stuff. Liverpool council rejected it

- Bulldogs approached Liverpool council again with new plans, this time much bigger. A larger stadium, larger Leagues club along with many restaurants and hotels, two full apartment residential areas, parks, etc. A full precinct. $500 million development (which is pretty cheap for something this size). They even offered to allow local Liverpool clubs to play at the stadium for free. Again, Liverpool rejected it

- Liverpool council approached the Bulldogs and Tigers saying that they want a stadium but wouldn't accept the rest of the stuff the Bulldogs want (Leagues club, apartment blocks, restaurants, etc). Bulldogs rejected them

- Bulldogs approached the NSW government (NSW Planning) in an attempt to overrule Liverpool council. This is where we currently are at

This move is likely a political move by Liverpool council. They really don't want the Bulldogs to get their development (due to re-zoning issues), so my guess is that they have approached the Tigers to do a deal that will lock in a new stadium for the Tigers. If that happens, NSW planning are unlikely to overrule the council and that will be the end of the Bulldogs Liverpool project.

That’s shite!!
Doesn’t the council think of rates gained?

 

[BELMORE]

The issue Liverpool council has is that it requires not only re-zoning of the land, but they need to change the Liverpool environmental and development policies. The main reasons being that Liverpool doesn't have precinct development allowance, and they don't allow for buildings over 21 metres.

The planned development by the Bulldogs includes 10 buildings with most of them over 21 metres, and at least one building would be 77 metres.

If the policies were changed to allow this, then Liverpool would be flooded with requests for skyscrapers.

More and more exemptions happening to exceed height restrictions. This will not be much of a hurdle to overcome in the coming years. Developers trade lots to government and in return get exemptions to exceed height restrictions. Happened in Rhodes and look at it now

 

[Trinfly]

That’s shite!!
Doesn’t the council think of rates gained?

Probably these days they would, pending zoning etc.

 

[CQDog]

We will be playing Thursday Nights every week

 

[D- voice]

Just wondering if we move there, will we be called " Liverpool Football Club "

 

[Hound Dog]

This is part of a political shit show we've been involved in. Basically put:

- Bulldogs opened plans for a new stadium back in 2015. Not just a stadium though. A stadium, plus Leagues club, and some other stuff. Liverpool council rejected it

- Bulldogs approached Liverpool council again with new plans, this time much bigger. A larger stadium, larger Leagues club along with many restaurants and hotels, two full apartment residential areas, parks, etc. A full precinct. $500 million development (which is pretty cheap for something this size). They even offered to allow local Liverpool clubs to play at the stadium for free. Again, Liverpool rejected it

- Liverpool council approached the Bulldogs and Tigers saying that they want a stadium but wouldn't accept the rest of the stuff the Bulldogs want (Leagues club, apartment blocks, restaurants, etc). Bulldogs rejected them

- Bulldogs approached the NSW government (NSW Planning) in an attempt to overrule Liverpool council. This is where we currently are at

This move is likely a political move by Liverpool council. They really don't want the Bulldogs to get their development (due to re-zoning issues), so my guess is that they have approached the Tigers to do a deal that will lock in a new stadium for the Tigers. If that happens, NSW planning are unlikely to overrule the council and that will be the end of the Bulldogs Liverpool project.

Thanks for that, interesting read, seems like Bulldogs have been persistently proactive. politics, agendas , and kickbacks will get involved but hopefully smart management gets it's way for the best overall result. It's a win win for all stakeholders. Issue is Tigers are desperate and will take anything, even if it's not theirs.

Clearly dogs have done their research to see what works for them.

With residential approvals and construction, Liverpool council are harder to work with compared to other councils, so I could imagine their stubbornness/incompetence in sorting out this redtape.

 

[S.B.W_Jnr]

Canterbury Leagues Club seek to skip Liverpool Council refusal for $500 million precinct development

Liverpool City Council has come to a head with the club over the proposed lifestyle, entertainment and recreational precinct worth half a billion dollars on the outskirts of the city.

www.urban.com.au

 

[The DoggFather]

This is part of a political shit show we've been involved in. Basically put:

- Bulldogs opened plans for a new stadium back in 2015. Not just a stadium though. A stadium, plus Leagues club, and some other stuff. Liverpool council rejected it

- Bulldogs approached Liverpool council again with new plans, this time much bigger. A larger stadium, larger Leagues club along with many restaurants and hotels, two full apartment residential areas, parks, etc. A full precinct. $500 million development (which is pretty cheap for something this size). They even offered to allow local Liverpool clubs to play at the stadium for free. Again, Liverpool rejected it

- Liverpool council approached the Bulldogs and Tigers saying that they want a stadium but wouldn't accept the rest of the stuff the Bulldogs want (Leagues club, apartment blocks, restaurants, etc). Bulldogs rejected them

- Bulldogs approached the NSW government (NSW Planning) in an attempt to overrule Liverpool council. This is where we currently are at

This move is likely a political move by Liverpool council. They really don't want the Bulldogs to get their development (due to re-zoning issues), so my guess is that they have approached the Tigers to do a deal that will lock in a new stadium for the Tigers. If that happens, NSW planning are unlikely to overrule the council and that will be the end of the Bulldogs Liverpool project.

IIRC, its a proven fact that Liverpool is the most corrupt and incompetent council in Australia.

I concur with that through my past experiences with them and my Real Estate Agency.

 

[Nano]

They are probably extorting us for more cash before an agreement and approval is penned, if we are offering to build residencies and an area for jobs that's not too far from the new airport in a part of Sydney with unused surely they would be crazy to say no now lol...

Sydney isn't getting any smaller with how many people there are and want to live here, more dwellings are required and they have a way to start pushing Liverpool to be bigger and more attractive because lets be honest Liverpool is still a hole compared to other parts of Sydney...

 

[B-Train]

Does any other NRL club have their home ground(s) in a 'foreign' area?

It just doesn't sit right with me.

Souths playing at Homebush for years comes to mind.. We tried to get Oasis going at Liverpool and have always got juniors from Wests and that area, so it's not much of a stretch. Eventually if we do get our own new stadium, Liverpool is the most likely area and makes the most sense logistically and geographically in terms of realistic options..

 

[Chris Harding]

Does any other NRL club have their home ground(s) in a 'foreign' area?

It just doesn't sit right with me.

Souths don't have a home ground, as such.

 

[gibbo2]

Does any other NRL club have their home ground(s) in a 'foreign' area?

It just doesn't sit right with me.

Yep- South Sydney

Redfern area based but play at Accor

 

[SexBomb]

This is part of a political shit show we've been involved in. Basically put:

- Bulldogs opened plans for a new stadium back in 2015. Not just a stadium though. A stadium, plus Leagues club, and some other stuff. Liverpool council rejected it

- Bulldogs approached Liverpool council again with new plans, this time much bigger. A larger stadium, larger Leagues club along with many restaurants and hotels, two full apartment residential areas, parks, etc. A full precinct. $500 million development (which is pretty cheap for something this size). They even offered to allow local Liverpool clubs to play at the stadium for free. Again, Liverpool rejected it

- Liverpool council approached the Bulldogs and Tigers saying that they want a stadium but wouldn't accept the rest of the stuff the Bulldogs want (Leagues club, apartment blocks, restaurants, etc). Bulldogs rejected them

- Bulldogs approached the NSW government (NSW Planning) in an attempt to overrule Liverpool council. This is where we currently are at

This move is likely a political move by Liverpool council. They really don't want the Bulldogs to get their development (due to re-zoning issues), so my guess is that they have approached the Tigers to do a deal that will lock in a new stadium for the Tigers. If that happens, NSW planning are unlikely to overrule the council and that will be the end of the Bulldogs Liverpool project.

Good luck compulsorily acquiring the land from us though, and if they want to buy it, add two zeros to the end before the decimal point.

 

[SexBomb]

We have land in Liverpool. Approximately 80,000 sqm. But we can't do what we want unless it passes DA, which requires Liverpool council to sign off on it. The main caveat we have is that we need to re-zone the land to allow for entertainment, sporting and residential. Currently it's just residential. If we can't get it re-zoned, then we can't do anything.

If Liverpool council and Tigers make a deal, it won't be on our land unless we sell it to them. They will find another plot to develop on.

It would have to be on another plot, as if they approve the rezoning for the Tigers, yet not us, our legal team would be licking their lips like an alpha predator that's just trapped their prey in a corner.