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I am aware that Gus and Tbaz are close. I never said they weren’t. I just said Gus never recommended Tbaz take our job.In the media he was pumping him up for the job. In fact, he pumped him up - hailed him as a head coach and would be perfect for the job.
Then, he said something the effect of “he shouldn’t take it” and again, his gripe was with the club and how it was being run - the Andersons.
Gus and Barrett are very close.
I can confirm green isn’t a good bloke. Had him In my u18s team he onky came in twice to pep talk us but he was really egotisticalList off coaches I would consider
Kristen Woolf St Helens and Tonga coach (heard a number of players from Superleague and Tonga rave about him in a number of player podcasts reckon he will be one of the next top nrl coaches)
Cameron Ciraldo Panthers assistant (Next up and coming coach according to the nrl experts)
Marc Brentnall Storm assistant (been With Bellamy for a number of years could be closest we could get to having Bellamy)
Jason Ryles Roosters assistant (next up and coming coach according nrl experts)
Shane Flanagan Dragons (don't like the bloke but he a gf winning coach someone that could get back us on track)
Andrew Ryan coaching in Newcastle comp (mate played under him said he is a brilliant coach and learnt so much off him reckon he could be a genuine nrl coach)
Shaun Wane England coach ( has stated he wants to coach in the nrl and has a really good recorded with Wigan)
Coach I wouldn't go
Paul Green (I wouldn't even bother with him has a reputation of pissing players off listening to willie mason podcast last year he said he was one off the worse coaches he ever had and lost the Cowboys dressing room early on )
Behind the scenes I believe he wasI am aware that Gus and Tbaz are close. I never said they weren’t. I just said Gus never recommended Tbaz take our job.
This is so true. At Panthers he sacked Griffin when they were in the top 4 .When Gus first started he said the team don't know how to win. Well Gus, you've been here since the start of the year and nothing has changed. Now, how about you do your job and change that losing culture?
Whilst an unpopular statement - Des was not a bad coach for our club. Win rate 57% (and this takes in a couple of less than successful years at the back end). A couple of GFs and regular stints in the finals - a record we would love now. Love him or hate him - the guy can coach. Did he take the club for a ride towards the end? Perhaps. Did the hierarchy give him too much control? Yes. But the guy can coach and the club should have managed him better. Who knows where we could be now if the club stuck with him for the two year extension. We would have avoided the whole “this is not Pay’s roster” garbage (which has now snowballed to Barrett’s tenure).Des was a bad coach for us, so we called for him to be gone, put Pay in charge. Gave Pay a shit team and no money to spend yet it was his fault we didn't improve so we called for him to go. We got Baz. He's had 1 year with the worst team in the comp, and 6 rounds with an improved team that is still getting used to each other. But it must be Baz is shit. So now he has to go.
Not saying Baz is a great coach, but he's barely out of the blocks here and I've always thought it's lazy thinking just to want the coach gone when things aren't going as well as expected. The rebuild isn't done yet so changing coach by itself, I dont see it changing much short term.
I'm reserving my judgement on Baz till end of this season at the soonest and believe the side will be even better next year when we turn over some more key positions and move on more deadwood
Biggest issue with Des is hes got a plan that's not flexible and his recruitment was abysmal. He held faith in shit players like Lichaa and let go good players. Des is a fine coach if he doesn't have to recruit. Give him a good side like we did at the start, and Manly have twice, he's great lolWhilst an unpopular statement - Des was not a bad coach for our club. Win rate 57% (and this takes in a couple of less than successful years at the back end). A couple of GFs and regular stints in the finals - a record we would love now. Love him or hate him - the guy can coach. Did he take the club for a ride towards the end? Perhaps. Did the hierarchy give him too much control? Yes. But the guy can coach and the club should have managed him better. Who knows where we could be now if the club stuck with him for the two year extension. We would have avoided the whole “this is not Pay’s roster” garbage (which has now snowballed to Barrett’s tenure).
Pay was a rookie head coach - nowhere the experience of Des. People were optimistic but to think he could take us to where Des took us was wishful thinking. Still, with a pretty basic roster over time, he still managed a 33% win rate and took us to a whisker of making the 8 in 2019.
Barrett: 14%. The club made a mistake signing this guy. We know how this ends. Enough said.
Des's coaching record is fine. Its who he bought to the club (player wise, coach wise &recruitment wise), how he killed off all junior pathways, how he wrecked our salary cap for 5 years via back ended deals & how he promised change but kept it all the same. So many red flags that his coaching record doesn't mean shit compared the cataclysmic damage he did to our clubWhilst an unpopular statement - Des was not a bad coach for our club. Win rate 57% (and this takes in a couple of less than successful years at the back end). A couple of GFs and regular stints in the finals - a record we would love now. Love him or hate him - the guy can coach. Did he take the club for a ride towards the end? Perhaps. Did the hierarchy give him too much control? Yes. But the guy can coach and the club should have managed him better. Who knows where we could be now if the club stuck with him for the two year extension. We would have avoided the whole “this is not Pay’s roster” garbage (which has now snowballed to Barrett’s tenure).
Pay was a rookie head coach - nowhere the experience of Des. People were optimistic but to think he could take us to where Des took us was wishful thinking. Still, with a pretty basic roster over time, he still managed a 33% win rate and took us to a whisker of making the 8 in 2019.
Barrett: 14%. The club made a mistake signing this guy. We know how this ends. Enough said.