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Dumped Bulldogs player Ryan Tandy owed his mother and his manager, Sam Ayoub, up to $31,000 around the time of a rugby league match at the centre of the NRL match fixing scandal, a Sydney court has heard.

The 29-year-old also regularly bet on NRL games but never bet on any game in which he played.

Tandy has pleaded not guilty to four charges that he lied to the NSW Crime Commission during a probe into the alleged scandal, which centres on a round 24 match between Canterbury and the North Queensland Cowboys in August last year.

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Ryan Tandy ... "very surprised". Photo: Nick Moir

The former front-rower has also pleaded not guilty to a charge of attempting to manipulate the first scoring points of the match, in an attempt to dishonestly obtain financial advantage by deception for rugby league identity John Elias, Ayoub and others, in an amount of $113,245 from Tabcorp.

Tandy was penalised two minutes into the game in Townsville on August 21 for impeding Cowboys playmaker Grant Rovelli in front of the posts, after the then-Bulldogs forward had spilled the ball and given away possession.

The Cowboys were awarded a penalty but took a tap kick instead of kicking for goal and scored a try.

In a hearing into the perjury matter in the Downing Centre Local Court today the court was played video recordings of two interviews Tandy gave to the commission in January and February this year.

Tandy said in one of them that at or around the time of the match he owed his mother between $10,000 and $15,000 and he owed Ayoub, who is also charged over the betting scandal, up to $16,000.

He also said he may have owed money to former Tigers and Dragons player Hassan Saleh and also to a Michael Cook, a "professional punter" and mate of Tandy's who lived a couple of doors down from him.

Tandy said he had been a "social" gambler since he was 18 or 19 years old.

He said he had probably lost money over the past decade but had incurred no debts as a result of his gambling activities.

Ayoub had lent him money for an overseas holiday in August or September last year, possibly also for some furniture when Tandy moved from Melbourne to Sydney to join the Bulldogs, Tandy told the commission.

Cook lent Tandy money to purchase plane tickets for the holiday, Tandy said.

The former footballer, who left the Melbourne Storm mid-season last year for a $175,000 contract with the Bulldogs, said he always placed bets through his TAB or BetFair accounts, and sometimes in person.

He had bet on NRL matches before but never on a game he was playing in, Tandy said.

"You're not allowed to bet on games you're participating in," he told the commission.

"It's a rule from the NRL ... it's something we're given advice on."

Tandy said he usually bet on horse racing, tennis and golf.

He also told the commission that Ayoub and Saleh had the password to his TAB account, "for them to put money in the account".

The court also heard that Tandy was introduced to Greg Tait, the fourth man charged over the betting scandal, through Cook.

Tandy gave evidence to the commission on January 20 and February 2 this year.

Tait, 38, who managed Tandy's Bronte apartment, has pleaded not guilty to allegations he tried to dishonestly obtain a financial advantage of $18,906 from Centrebet in Sydney on August 20 last year, and $29,004 from the New Zealand Racing Board on August 20 or 21.

Elias, 48, and Ayoub, 49, have both pleaded not guilty to attempting to gain a financial advantage by deception on the same round 24 game.

The hearing is continuing.



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Just heard on the radio news that Tandy allegedly (at some point in time) asked a former journalist to put bets on for him.

Stellar move, Ryan.
 

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Bulldogs rugby league forward Ryan Tandy owed $30,000 after a flurry of bets over a six-day period, his perjury hearing has been told.

Jockey manager and former Sydney Morning Herald sports journalist John Schell also said Tandy had asked him to place a bet on a game in which the footballer was playing.

He was giving evidence in Sydney's Downing Centre Local Court today.

Advertisement: Story continues below Tandy, 29, has pleaded not guilty to four counts of providing false or misleading evidence to the NSW Crime Commission, which was investigating betting claims relating to an alleged match-fixing scandal.

Mr Schell said that, after a jockey contacted him, he had agreed to place bets for Tandy through a punter, Damien Flower.

The bets began on June 5 last year - and included a number of $5000 wagers on horse races that day - and by June 11 "the balance was minus $30,000", he said.

At his first face-to-face meeting with Tandy on July 5, he said Tandy indicated he was not going to repay the debt.

Mr Schell also said that on June 18 last year, Tandy had asked to place a multi-bet on a rugby league game in which he was playing.



In his videoed evidence to the commission, which has been played in court, Tandy said that, while he had placed bets on NRL games, he had not bet on one in which he was playing as this was against the rules.

The hearing is continuing.

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*bump*


Key witness Brad Murray has dropped a bombshell in the NRL betting case, saying he had originally lied in his evidence because he felt under pressure from the club he played for, Parramatta, to do so.

Murray was called by police to give evidence at Downing Centre Local Court today in the case involving John Elias, who is charged with attempting to obtain financial advantage by deception.

Last month, when magistrate Janet Walhquist handed down her judgement in the Ryan Tandy case, she said, in part: "There is, however, evidence as to a source of the reason for the unusual betting. There is evidence that Mr Sam Ayoub told both Mr [Brad] Murray and Mr [Joel] Solinas [both of whom placed bets] that the first team to score in the match would be the Cowboys in a penalty goal and that it had been fixed."

Advertisement: Story continues below But when Murray appeared his story had changed, and he said parts of his original statement to police were "untrue".

Murray said player agent Ayoub, who has also been charged with trying to obtain financial advantage by deception and who is the manager of both Murray and ex-Canterbury player Tandy, had ‘‘never told me’’ the game in question had been "set up".

The game, between North Queensland and Canterbury at Townsville in August last year, was the subject of a highly unusual plunge on the first scoring play option, which is normally regarded as a novelty bet.

The vast majority of money went on the Cowboys to kick a penalty goal to open the scoring.

"The truth is Sam asked me to place bets, and left pieces of paper for me to put bets on," Murray said.

Under cross-examination by police prosecutor Mark Watson, it was put to Murray that he had "told police it [the game] had been set up".

Murray replied: "I was under immense pressure from my former football club (Murray has since left Parramatta) that this was the only way I could save my football career."

Asked by Mr Watson why he had split the bets up and put them on at three different TAB locations, Murray replied: "I didn’t feel comfortable placing so much money at one place. I have never placed that sort of money before in one place."

Murray said the total amount of money he was asked to put on in bets for Ayoub was "around about $700".

Mr Watson questioned Murray about his having placed a bet for himself as well, on the day of the game.

Murray said: "I got asked to place three different bets [for Ayoub] and I thought 'well, I might place a bet for myself. [It was] just like getting a tip."

Murray said he put a $200 bet on for himself.

Recalled to give evidence in the wake of Murray having given evidence, Matthew Gibson, a detective who was in charge of the police investigation into the suspicious betting on the match, said this was the first time he had heard Murray had changed his evidence.

TAB Sportsbet media manager Glenn Munsie will be the next witness called to give evidence today.
 

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TAB Sportsbet media manager Glenn Munsie will be the next witness called to give evidence today.
Please let this idiot be involved..

I can't stand the bastard popping up every ad break during the football.
 

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Gambling degenerates gonna degenerate. Managed to f*ck up the best source of income he will ever have for a few extra bucks to cover his gambling debt. Also had the nerve to threaten us legally when sacked. Great player, sh*t human being.

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John Elias last week had a charge of attempting to obtain a financial advantage by deception dismissed in court. Player agent Sam Ayoub this week had a hearing into a similar charge adjourned until February 13. Eastern suburbs real estate agent Greg Tait is awaiting his case on a similar charge.
When they all get off Tandy will realise he was nothing but a mere pawn in all of this. Just another fall guy who was dumb enough to believe anything that came out of these scum bags mouths.
 

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He really was quality for us last year, good hard running and got our pack actually going forward. It's unfortunate that the man is also an idiot.
 

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DISGRACED NRL forward Ryan Tandy is facing up to two years in jail as rugby league's match-fixing scandal drags on into its third year.

The former Bulldogs front-rower was found guilty of knowingly misleading the NSW Crime Commission yesterday, the latest chapter from the August 2010 Canterbury Bulldogs-Cowboys match where he was accused of intentionally giving away a penalty goal for punters who had heavily backed the option with the TAB and bookmakers.

Magistrate Clare Farnan found that he knowingly gave false evidence about his betting activity with jockey manager and former journalist John Schell to the NSW Crime Commission.

Tandy is facing a mandatory custodial sentence of up to two years for the offence, but won't find out whether he faces time behind bars until an Intensive Correction Order (ICO) assessment is completed in six weeks.

If the former Bulldog is found suitable for an ICO, he could undergo strictly supervised community work instead of serving jail time.

Whatever the decision, Tandy's punishment for trying to cover up parts of his gambling history will be far harsher than what he was given for the original crime.

In October the 30-year-old former forward was found guilty of spot fixing for his role in the match, but he is appealing against his 12-month good behaviour bond and $4000 fine.

Tandy appeared relaxed as the magistrate began reading out the reasoning for her decision, sitting back in his chair with his hands resting on

his thighs.

But as it became apparent that Tandy was going to hear a guilty verdict, he began fidgeting and looking around the courtroom for support.

During an adjournment after the verdict was delivered, a visibly shaken Tandy was consoled by a friend as well as his lawyer.

Handing down her decision, Ms Farnan was scathing of the former Bulldogs forward's testimony, describing his evidence as "not impressive".

"His evidence lacked detail on matters where one might have expected him to have at least some recollection, but was emphatic on matters which he clearly believed it was in his interest to do so," Ms Farnan said.

In particular, Tandy's evidence that he had forgotten about his dealings with Schell was not credible, she said.

Between early June and late July, Tandy used Schell to place a number of bets on various sporting events, including NRL games, the court heard.

During the period Schell sent Tandy numerous text messages asking him to settle his gambling debts that had risen to more than $30,000.

"His failure to nominate Mr Schell as a person used to place bets, or to acknowledge him when his name was specifically suggested, was clearly false, and I find that Tandy knew that," Ms Farnan said.

Tandy was found not guilty of giving false evidence to the commission about having a conversation discussing his position on the field for kick-off during the now infamous North Queensland vs Canterbury Bulldogs NRL game in August 2010.

He was also found not guilty of knowingly misleading the commission about placing a bet on an NRL game involving himself.

The court's decision to delay the sentencing is a blow for NRL administrators who were hoping the case would have been dealt with by Christmas. Tandy's agent Sam Ayoub is also to have his case heard in relation to the scandal in February.
 

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How do you gamble more than 30000dollars? He needs serious counselling
 

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Its nice how they keep referring him to the former bulldog. He also played for storm, f*** the media.
 
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