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RT: I never met such and such.
Conspiracy Theory: Hey such and such, RT met you once didn't he?
Such&Such: Yeah he did.
CT: RT you are charged with lieing.

Probably his word against anothers.
 

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http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/...nrl-betting-scam/story-e6frf3ou-1226015172006

Canterbury-Bankstown prop Ryan Tandy has pleaded not guilty to a charge of providing false evidence about an alleged NRL betting scam.


The 29-year-old appeared in Sydney's Downing Centre Local Court on Thursday accused of lying to an investigation by the NSW Crime Command's Racing and Casino Investigation Unit.

The unit has been examining suspicious betting on an NRL clash between the Bulldogs and North Queensland Cowboys last year.

The incident involved a plunge on a betting option that the first points of the game would come from a penalty goal.

Tandy was penalised two minutes into the game for impeding Cowboys playmaker Grant Rovelli in front of the posts.

The Cowboys did not opt for a kick at goal, but chose to take a quick tap and scored a try out wide.

After he pleaded not guilty on Thursday, Tandy's bail was continued and the case was adjorned to April 7
 
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I just heard on radio that Tandy was also involved in the betting scandal when he made his debut for us against the titans last year

EDIT: Hadley just confirmed that Tandy did lie to the police about his role in the betting sting between Titans and Bulldogs last year
 
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And what else did Hadley say?
Hadley read out a report from one of the his reporters who were at the court saying Tandy pleaded not guilty to 4 charges which include lying to the police and giving false information and evidence to them in his alleged involvement in the betting scam
 

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Hadley read out a report from one of the his reporters who were at the court saying Tandy pleaded not guilty to 4 charges which include lying to the police and giving false information and evidence to them in his alleged involvement in the betting scam
Wait till Ozman read this, he is gonna flip...
 

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We should cease the payments he was still getting from us ... And shred the contract.
 

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Being charged is not the same as being found guilty by a court. It doesn't look good, but charges have to be proved. I don't think that the media will savage us too badly unless the whole team is implicated.

I keep wondering about all the cheap possession Tandy gave to our opponents last year. There was a lot of dropped ball in our own half - and not just by him. Those simple turnovers cost us some close games. Please tell me they were not deliberate.
 

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Has had charges upgraded/additional charges added.

This either means they want to put him away for a while.... OR (normally) they are putting in "backup" charges as the Police Prosecutor is not confident of getting him guilty on the primary charge.

In other words (in example of a driver) what they do is book you for Dangerous Driving, with an additional/backup charge of Negligent Driving. Dangerous drivving gets knowingly dismissed/downgraded, and therefore the Neg Driving stocks because it's near impossible to argue.

In this case they aren't confident the main charge will stick so have hit him with 4 others of the same.

Hmmmmmm
Or simply there's additional evidence that warrants additional charges.
 
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it has probably been raised before, but for a sting to come off like this one, you have to have players from the otherside involved.
otherwise no one will know to take the shot at goal. So it amazes me that no one has been arrested from the Cowboys yet?? there has to be players involved from there and my mail is payne is the no 1 man and others who had involvement are Thurston and Mason.
i hope Tandy spills his guts and these guys are outed
 

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it has probably been raised before, but for a sting to come off like this one, you have to have players from the otherside involved.
otherwise no one will know to take the shot at goal. So it amazes me that no one has been arrested from the Cowboys yet?? there has to be players involved from there and my mail is payne is the no 1 man and others who had involvement are Thurston and Mason.
i hope Tandy spills his guts and these guys are outed
This whole case will be difficult to prove and considering not even Tandy has been charged for the actual match fixing aspect, I'm not all that surprised no one from the Cowboys has been either.

The police probably know who is involved but haven't got the evidence.
 

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Bulldogs seek advice on sacking Tandy in light of latest charges

Glenn Jackson
March 5, 2011
THE Bulldogs have sought legal advice as to whether they can sack Ryan Tandy over his links with the NRL betting scandal.

The Herald understands that following the three fresh charges laid against the forward on Thursday, officials have spoken to lawyers about whether they can legally terminate Tandy's contract. And they have also spoken with NRL officials over the extent of proof of Tandy's betting activity since the investigation was launched by police last year.

Tandy was suspended by the club last month after he was charged with providing false or misleading evidence to the NSW Crime Commission, but is still being paid. That also means Tandy is, for now, included in the Bulldogs' 2011 salary cap even though he will not play a game while he remains suspended.

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While officials felt they could not sack him over his original charge, it is believed they have sought further advice following Tandy's appearance in court on Thursday.

When Tandy appeared in court yesterday in relation to his original charge of having provided false or misleading evidence to a NSW Crime Commission hearing, the three further charges of providing false or misleading evidence were laid.

Police have further alleged that at a hearing on February 2, he provided false or misleading evidence about having a conversation discussing his position on the field at kick-off during the Bulldogs-Cowboys game, his betting activity and access to his TAB account, and having placed a bet on the Bulldogs-Titans game, his club debut.

Tandy, who could be sentenced to jail if found guilty of lying to the Crime Commission, is contracted to the Bulldogs until the end of 2012.

Club officials believe that their decision to suspend Tandy has helped the club distance itself from the scandal, which has the potential to disrupt the team. The Bulldogs play their first game of the NRL season against Wests Tigers on Monday week.

They know that if they are able to terminate the contract of the 29-year-old, they will be able to separate themselves from the brewing drama even further. The Bulldogs had their official season launch last night in Pyrmont, which Tandy did not attend.

It is acknowledged that Tandy has a gambling problem. Tandy's manager Sam Ayoub, who was arrested on Thursday and charged with attempt to obtain financial advantage by deception, approached Bulldogs chief Todd Greenberg seeking a $60,000 advance on his salary to pay his debts, which included sums owed to Harvey Norman and a car finance company.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...n-light-of-latest-charges-20110304-1bhys.html
 
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World Cup qualifiers also to be investigated
Brad Walter
March 5, 2011

THE police investigation into suspicious betting activity on last year's Bulldogs-Cowboys game has been extended to include qualifying matches for the 2008 World Cup that featured suspended Canterbury prop Ryan Tandy.

An international rugby league official contacted the Herald yesterday about what he believed were irregularities in two games between Ireland and Lebanon that both ended in a draw.

Tandy, who has been charged with four counts of lying to a NSW Crime Commission hearing into betting allegations on the August 21 game between the Bulldogs and North Queensland, played for Ireland.
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Jai Ayoub - the son of Tandy's agent Sam Ayoub, who was charged on Thursday with attempting to obtain financial benefit from deception - was in the Lebanon squad.

There is no suggestion that either Tandy or the Ayoubs are the focus of the investigation.

The first match between the two teams ended in an 18-18 draw and the second finished 16-16 after Lebanon conceded a penalty in front of their own posts after a high tackle and Ireland kicked a goal to level the scores three minutes before full-time. Lebanese officials reacted angrily to the draws and called on the International Rugby League Federation to force Wests Tigers to release captain Robbie Farah for future matches.

The Herald was asked to forward the information to police.

''Whilst performing analysis on international rugby league results, I came across a couple of anomalies involving World Cup qualifying games between Ireland and Lebanon,'' the official said in an email.

''In light of the current match-fixing investigations … I thought my findings may be relevant in case they have yet to surface in the current investigation. Both matches ended in last minute draws - [a] roughly one in 600 chance of occurring legitimately,which would reflect in the return on a bet by anyone lucky enough to pick it.''

Police said they would investigate.

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The Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs Rugby League Club has terminated the contract of Ryan Tandy, effective immediately.

The guy must have done something
 

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Ryan Tandy is suing Canterbury-Bankstown for unfair dismissal, and will argue his sacking may have been invalid because the entire Bulldogs board failed to appear at Wednesday's show-cause hearing.

Tandy's lawyer will lodge industrial proceedings on Monday in the wake of Canterbury-Bankstown's decision to terminate the prop's $170,000-a-year contract.

It's understood he will claim that the Bulldogs erred by not assembling the full board for Tandy's hearing, with only chairman Ray Dib and directors Paul Dunn, Barry Ward and Anthony Elias present.

Chief executive Todd Greenberg was also in the room for the 30-minute hearing at Canterbury Leagues Club.

With the matter headed to court, Greenberg declined to comment. But a Bulldogs insider said a minimum of four directors constituted "the board" under the club's guidelines.

Solicitor Danny Eid, who is defending Tandy against charges relating to the suspicious failed betting plunge on last year's match against North Queensland Cowboys, will also accuse the Bulldogs of prejudicing those criminal proceedings by asking whether he had placed a bet on a separate game against Gold Coast Titans.

Eid said Tandy had repeatedly denied the general breaches levelled against him, and the Bulldogs had no right to ask specifically about matters subject to his client's criminal case.

Tandy declined to answer the question during Wednesday's hearing - and the Bulldogs accordingly sacked him for refusing to co-operate.

Eid advised Tandy to remain silent, given the hearing was being tape recorded and that any statements could be later subpoenaed as evidence in his criminal case, which is next scheduled for court on April 7.

"Mr Tandy was issued with a breach notice but he's denied the breaches," Eid said.

"Ryan was dismissed because he allegedly didn't answer a question that was put to him by the chairman.

"As a consequence of his sacking, we will be commencing proceedings in Fair Work Australia and Ryan will be seeking reinstatement."

Tandy has been charged with four counts of lying to a police investigation into the NRL betting scandal, one of which relates to the issue of whether he had a wager on the game against the Titans. He has denied those charges.

The 29-year-old had been stood down on full pay since the charges were laid on February 2, and now must convince the NRL to re-register him should another club offer a lifeline.

Neither Tandy nor his manager Sam Ayoub returned calls on Saturday, but it's understood the Ireland international is determined to find a new team.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/...unfair-dismissal/story-e6frf3ou-1226024833226
 

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Bulldogs sacking of Tandy queried

Brent Read, Rugby League From: The Australian March 23, 2011 12:00AM

RYAN Tandy has had precious little support from the rugby league community in recent months.

But some arrived yesterday when the players' union questioned Canterbury's decision to sack the frontrower over his failure to answer questions surrounding his betting activities.

Tandy, who has been charged with four counts of providing false evidence to a police inquiry, was given his marching orders by the Bulldogs last week after refusing to answer questions from the board relating to the club's game against the Gold Coast last year.

That prompted Rugby League Professionals Association chief executive David Garnsey to issue a statement yesterday calling on clubs to respect the rights of players to refuse to answer questions that may incriminate them. He added the presumption of innocence was paramount.

Furthermore, Garnsey said the NRL rules should be amended to prevent players being adversely affected before they had the chance to defend themselves. Tandy will have his day in court next month.

"It is not an offence, as I understand it, for a person to refuse to answer questions, including questions that may tend to incriminate them, asked by persons other than investigating authorities," Garnsey said.

"On the other hand, the privilege against self-incrimination is a long-standing cornerstone of the criminal law. Mr Tandy has legal representation and no doubt the question of legality will be pursued by his lawyers as they see fit.

"My belief, however, is that the proper place to hear evidence and determine guilt or innocence is the trial of the accused, with all the safeguards that that process guarantees."

In regards to Tandy's hearing before members of the Canterbury board, Garnsey said: "To force an accused player to participate in a pre-trial interview or hearing, while criminal charges are pending, for the purpose of determining the facts, is effectively to usurp the trial.

"I have repeatedly said in recent weeks in relation to other matters that the presumption of innocence is paramount and the NRL itself has acted in accordance with that presumption.

"For a club to rely on a player's silence before he has had his day in court as grounds for dismissal, on the other hand, seems to me to be proceeding on the basis of a presumption of guilt."

Tandy's lawyer Danny Eid - who spoke on Tandy's behalf at the hearing - has already foreshadowed a legal challenge on the grounds of unfair dismissal.

The latest developments came as Eid asked for the court's help in obtaining statements and documents from police relating to charges of attempting to gain a financial advantage by deception, which were laid on Tandy's manager Sam Ayoub and former player John Elias in relation to last year's Canterbury-North Queensland game.

Police are fighting the move, the Crown arguing it is not in the public interest to provide the documents to Eid until Ayoub's next appearance in court, April 7.

Police were issued with a subpoena to produce evidence on March 8 by Eid. "It would be ludicrous to suggest that a public interest immunity is relied upon, when all we are asking for are the very statements and documents the Crown is relying upon to charge Mr Ayoub," Eid said outside the court.

"It's bureaucracy gone mad."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...of-tandy-queried/story-e6frg7mf-1226026375034
 
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Mods can we get all articles merged into one and stickied? I've been following the case closely.

Former Bulldog called as police witness in Tandy betting scandal case Georgina Robinson
September 7, 2011
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RETIRED Canterbury prop Michael Hodgson will be called as a police witness in the case of alleged perjury against his former teammate Ryan Tandy on Friday, a court has been told.

It was revealed on Monday, during a hearing into allegations Tandy lied to the NSW Crime Commission, that he and Hodgson spoke about which positions they would take on the field prior to last year's game at the centre of the NRL betting scandal.

The police prosecutor, Senior Sergeant Rick Mansley, told the hearing that Hodgson would be called as a police witness, along with jockey manager John Schell.

Advertisement: Story continues below Neither Hodgson, 31, nor Schell, have been charged in relation to any investigation. Tandy has pleaded not guilty to four charges alleging he lied to the commission.

Under cross-examination, the officer in charge of the police investigation into the betting scandal, Detective Senior Constable Matthew Gibson, told the court Tandy and Hodgson had a conversation in the change room, before the August 21 game, about who would take which side of the field.

The court heard that both props gave police differing accounts of that conversation.

Tandy, 29, has also pleaded not guilty to a charge of attempting to manipulate the first scoring points of the match, in an attempt to dishonestly obtain financial advantage by deception an amount of $113,245 from Tabcorp.

He was penalised two minutes into the round-24 game in Townsville for impeding Cowboys playmaker Grant Rovelli in front of the posts, after Tandy had earlier spilled the ball and given away possession. The Cowboys were awarded a penalty but took a tap kick instead of kicking for goal and scored a try.

The criminal investigation, which so far has resulted in charges against Tandy's manager, Sam Ayoub, Tandy's former real estate agent Gregory Tait and the rugby league identity John Elias, was sparked following a betting plunge on the first point-scoring option on the game.

Ayoub and Elias have pleaded not guilty to charges of trying to gain a financial advantage by deception. Tait has also pleaded not guilty to two charges of trying to dishonestly obtain financial advantage by deception. The Bulldogs sacked Tandy earlier this year. Hodgson played his final game for the club last weekend.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...candal-case-20110906-1jvyq.html#ixzz1XEER1qIz
 
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