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In this situation a one man fix is totally plausible. For example, Tandy gives away the penalty in front of his posts as soon as he can, no-one else has to assist. Early in the game the opposing side will often take the 2 easy points, this is what these people were bankin on but the quick tap burnt them. Good riddance
Why would people in the know risk that much money unless it was a sure thing? Meaning the opposition were in on it also. The cowboys do not usually go for the 2 points as 1st scoring option.

Had the bet been on the Dogs in the last decade, then plausible, because they have taken this option many time with Hazem & Halligan before him.
 

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Top Dog insists club did checks on Ryan Tandy

AAP February 07, 2011 12:26PM

CANTERBURY boss Todd Greenberg says he was unaware Ryan Tandy may have had had a gambling problem when he joined the NRL club last season.

Reports suggest the journeyman front-rower had been dealing with the issue before being embroiled in an ongoing investigation into irregular betting on a match between the Bulldogs and North Queensland last August.

Tandy was charged last week with providing false evidence as a result of the investigation by the NSW Crime Commission.

“We did some significant checks on Ryan with his old club, through his manager (Sam Ayoub), and we were given a glowing endorsement of him as a player and a person,” Greenberg said today.

“We've worked closely with him over the last six months that he'd been at this club.”

Ayoub's home was reportedly one of three raided, including Tandy's, before the 29-year-old's arrest.

The Dogs players returned to training today for their first session since Tandy was stood down by the club.

“They're not pleasant decisions to make but we thought the decision we made was in the best interests of the club,” Greenberg said.

Canterbury's players say they are moving on already.

“It's disappointing but we need to move on,” captain Andrew Ryan said.

“We've got games to play coming this Saturday and our focus is to play footy this weekend.

“I think the club's made the right decision at the moment and we need to move on as far as the playing group goes and be ready to prepare for games.”

Greenberg, coach Kevin Moore and Ryan said they were yet to speak with Tandy, although football manager Alan Thompson has made contact with the forward.

Greenberg, Moore and Ryan denied any knowledge by the club that a fix could have been on - allegedly for a Cowboys penalty goal to be the first points scored - before the Dairy Farmers Stadium match on August 21.

Canterbury play their first trial game against the Sydney Roosters at Leichhardt Oval on Saturday.

AAP

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ks-on-ryan-tandy/story-e6frg7mf-1226001409983
 

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I hope it isnt true. If it is thats more dodginess from Melbourne in recent years lol. Good culture down there. So far the Turnernator has been fine, maybe he wasnt infected.
 

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Tandy in doghouse with teammates

RYAN Tandy has virtually become an outcast with his Bulldogs teammates, with only one club official having made contact with the player since his arrest last Wednesday.
Canterbury are determined not to let the betting saga involving Tandy derail their premiership hopes as it emerged yesterday general manager Alan Thompson was perhaps the solitary official to have spoken with the prop.

Tandy was charged with giving false and misleading evidence during a police investigation into the round 24 clash between Canterbury and North Queensland, which featured a series of huge bets on the North Queensland penalty goal.

Bulldogs skipper Andrew Ryan, who joined coach Kevin Moore and chief executive Todd Greenberg to address the matter at training, said the focus was on football rather than Tandy.

Ryan's tough love came on the same day former Cowboys hooker Anthony Watts broke his silence on taking the tap that led to a try - and ultimately denied any payout on the Cowboys penalty goal - on the night in question.

Ryan said before a Silverwater training hit-out: "We need to move on, there are games to be played and our focus is on playing footy this weekend and getting the best 17 out there for round one. I think the club have made the right decision [standing him down] and we need to move on as a playing group and be ready for games.

"There's no anger, we've got a job to do, it's pretty simple from our point of view. We're just here to play."

Greenberg, who was in Port Douglas with Moore on the weekend, said he had tried to reach Tandy and hoped to speak with him later this week.

While Canterbury were put through their paces, Watts said he never gave the penalty goal any thought during the Bulldogs match in Townsville.

A Tandy knock-on and penalty in the opening minutes promised the Cowboys an easy two points, but Watts, now with the Roosters, was after a try.

"I could see the Canterbury players close to line, I wouldn't have listened to the captain, even if he wanted two points, I could see the option and we could score, so six points were better than two," Watts said.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...e-with-teammates/story-e6frexnr-1226001837469
he did have his phone confiscated yeah?

and the admin have been dealing with commitments in qld til only just the other day too?

oh wait...........
 

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Bulldogs' Tandy checks offered no hint of what was to come

Midway through 2008, Todd Greenberg, a few months into what was then the toughest job in the NRL, sat down with a player, from the Melbourne Storm, he hoped to sign. He had heard and seen good things.

In person, however, the outlook of the Bulldogs' chief executive changed quickly. The player could not look Greenberg in the eye, fidgeted and reacted without a great deal of enthusiasm when the subject of joining in the club's community work came up. Despite being quite certain this player would be an asset on the field, Greenberg passed on him.

More recently, he quizzed a prospective recruit on how he would like to be involved with the Bulldogs outside of training and playing commitments. The player responded that he was ''not really into that kind of thing'' and would ''rather just finish training and go home and play the PlayStation.'' Pass.

To say Greenberg takes his due diligence seriously is an understatement. Given justifiable credit for rescuing a once battered brand (and rated by some crystal ball exponents as a future head of Cricket Australia or rugby league itself) it is fair to say he has not made too many misguided decisions in his three years running Canterbury.

Yet it must be acknowledged that his acquisition of the journeyman prop Ryan Tandy, from the Storm in the aftermath of that club's salary cap breach last year, is one that slipped through the cracks of a thoroughly exhaustive screening system.

Tandy, it should be said, has been found guilty of nothing, only charged with giving false evidence to the NSW Crime Commission's NRL betting inquiry and subsequently stood down by the club for the time being. He could conceivably be back in a Bulldogs jersey by round one.

However, there is no question the 29-year-old has a gambling problem. It is conceded privately at the Bulldogs that, had they known that fact, they wouldn't have picked him up, and going on Greenberg's aforementioned strict recruiting criteria that should be no great shock.

So what went wrong? Somehow, that key information did not come up in a character assessment conducted before he was snapped up from the Storm post-cap quagmire in June last year, initially until the end of the season, then for two more years. The reason: the Storm, themselves, did not know of any issue, and Tandy had only been in Melbourne for little more than 12 months anyway.

''We did some significant checks on Ryan with his old club, through his manager,'' Greenberg said. ''And we were given glowing endorsement of him as a player and a person.''

If, though, in hindsight, that episode can now be marked down as an oversight, the Bulldogs supremo has not made too many since. Clean-ups are Greenberg's speciality - he reinvented a Canterbury image hammered in the noughties by their own salary cap disgrace, Coffs Harbour No.1 and No.2 and myriad other off-field dramas.

At one point, in 2008, the Bulldogs' predicament was so dire that Greenberg, knowing major jersey sponsor Mitsubishi were not re-signing for 2009, offered the space to a charity for free. Incredibly, they knocked him back. The organisation was, of course, Camp Quality, and eventually did decide to come on board, along with plenty of others that paid good money.

Yesterday, he was at it again. The Bulldogs had not trained in the five days since Tandy's arrest and knew a large media contingent was inevitable as they returned on an overcast morning to their modest Silverwater training ground. Even without Tandy on ''active duty''.

Greenberg's tactic was simple. To front up, in crisis management parlance, and be done with it. He made himself, coach Kevin Moore and captain Andrew Ryan available to speak about the Tandy matter and invited reporters to ask any questions they like. As the spokesman of the club it will not be the last time Greenberg is quoted on the topic but do not expect Moore and Ryan to weigh in again.

In reality, coach and captain were effectively reading from Greenberg's briefing sheet anyway. ''Obviously it is disappointing but as Todd said we need to move on,'' Ryan said. From Moore there was this: ''The decision, as we said, was a tough one but we've got a competition to focus on.''

Moore added that Bulldogs football manager Alan Thompson was the only one to have been in contact with Tandy since last Wednesday. The front-rower, having had his mobile phone confiscated by police, initially called him using public pay-phones and has been difficult for officials to reach. ''I have attempted to make some contact with him over the weekend but haven't as such been able to talk to him,'' Greenberg said.

No doubt he will get through soon enough. What also should not be in any doubt is the re-branded Bulldogs' ability to bounce right back out of this unforeseen sideshow. Shrewd off-season recruiting has Moore's side well placed to rebound from a disappointing 2009 and be a challenger come September.

And, fear not, sponsors are not reaching for the exit door these days. ''We've done a lot of work, the Bulldogs, over the last three years to make sure people know what we stand for in the community,'' Greenberg said. ''This won't change that.''

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...-hint-of-what-was-to-come-20110207-1ak80.html
it was a disappointing 2010 dumbass - 2009 was a great year for us

and of course moore and bobcat are going to be reading from the same briefing sheet as greeny, the detail of those answers is exactly where they should be focusing on from here on in, we've got a ****ing comp to win!
 

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Innocent or not - I applaud the club's response ...

And judging by the long, long silence on the issue of Mr Ayoub's involvment ... I get the warm fuzzy feeling inside he is about to get royally PWNED !
 

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Ryan Tandy is tip of the rugby league gambling iceberg

Stuart Honeysett From: The Australian February 08, 2011 12:00AM

POLICE have told Canterbury there could be more charges to follow from last year's betting scandal.

Prop Ryan Tandy's arrest is considered to be just the tip of the iceberg.

The Australian has been told the club was briefed before Tandy was arrested and charged last week with giving false information to the NSW Crime Commission in its investigation over suspicious betting activity arising from a North Queensland-Bulldogs match in Townsville on August 21.

"This is not the end of what they're doing," a source said.

"This is their way maybe to get closer to it and there's some bigger fish to fry."

Tandy is at the centre of the investigation after a plunge was made on a Cowboys penalty goal being the first scoring play. The Canterbury prop gave away a cheap penalty in the opening minutes of the match right in front of his posts.

Tandy's home was raided last week and his mobile phone was confiscated by Strike Force Suburb of the Casino and Racing Investigation Unit. The homes of Tandy's manager, Sam Ayoub, and the mother of league identity John Elias have also been raided.

Tandy is facing up to five years in jail and has been stood down by the club from all activities pending his appearance at the Downing Centre court on March 3.

"The investigations are ongoing and detectives are urging anyone who has been involved with, or who has information about, criminal activity regarding the betting allegations, to come forward and speak to police while they still have the opportunity," a police spokesman said yesterday.

The Bulldogs refused to speculate on their talks with police after opening up training yesterday for the first time since Tandy was arrested but were happy to present a united front over the decision to stand him down.

Chief executive Todd Greenberg, coach Kevin Moore and captain Andrew Ryan all faced the large media contingent to justify the move, although the trio admitted to not speaking to Tandy since he was banished last week.

"They're not pleasant decisions to make but we thought the decision we made was in the best interests of the club," Greenberg said.

"The other players have been very supportive of the decision and they're confident they can start preparing for the 2011 season right now."

The NRL also refused to comment on its discussions with police but chief executive David Gallop said the incident could prompt changes, including creating a post to police the area.

The league is one of several sports working with former Australian Cricket and ICC chief Malcolm Speed on ways to combat illegal gambling.

"We don't have a full-time employee dedicated to that but we've obviously been fortunate to pull in (NSW racing steward) Ray Murrihy, an absolute expert in the field," Gallop said.

"We'll be reviewing our resources and, as I say, working with the other sports and the government to see what we need to do to make sure there's no suggestion of corruption around rugby league.

"An in-house resource may well not have the expertise Ray Murrihy has, so there are different arguments around the issue but certainly where we need dedicated resources we won't hesitate putting them in place."

The Bulldogs had a disappointing season last year but have recruited strongly. Trent Hodkinson, Kris Keating, Frank Pritchard and Aiden Tolman have joined for 2011.

The club will play its first trial match of the season against the Sydney Roosters at Leichhardt Oval on Saturday night and there will be plenty of interest in the squad that Moore names today.

"It was a tough one (to stand Tandy down) but we've got a competition to focus on and our preparations right through the off-season have been on the trial matches starting this weekend," Moore said.

"It's a decision based on the best interests of everyone."

Ryan admitted he felt sorry for his former teammate but the club had made the right decision and the players needed to move on.

"Obviously it's disappointing but we've got games to play this coming Saturday. Our focus is to play footy this weekend and hopefully get the best 17 out on the field for game one," Ryan said.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...gambling-iceberg/story-e6frg7mf-1226001773629
 

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Interesting. I always viewed his arrest as a tactic to divide the culprits by isolating the most obvious suspect.
 

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Tandy asked for a $60,000 advance

Phil Rothfield and Rebecca Wilson From: The Sunday Telegraph February 13, 2011 12:00AM

RYAN Tandy and his manager Sam Ayoub approached the Bulldogs for a $60,000 cash advance last year - not long after the failed betting plunge on the game against the Cowboys that is now the subject of a police investigation.

We understand Tandy asked for the money to pay debts owed to Harvey Norman, a car finance company, money he had been advanced by Ayoub and a number of other debts.

Bulldogs boss Todd Greenberg eventually gave them a one month advance worth $15,000 and the Bulldogs insisted on paying Harvey Norman and the car finance company directly - before giving the balance to Ayoub.

Dogs chief executive Greenberg would not comment, other than to say all payments to players are treated in strictest of confidence.

Tandy has been stood down, on full pay, by the Bulldogs since being charged with providing false or misleading evidence to the NSW Crime Commission.

The Bulldogs prop has denied any involvement in the match-fixing allegations.

We spoke to Tandy's lawyer, Danny Eid, during the week. However, he declined to comment.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/tandy-asked-for-a-60000-advance/story-e6freye0-1226004993600
 

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LOL @ these two trying to kick the old "Bulldogs abandoned him" dead-horse ... Who could the source of this revelation be anyway ?
 

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LOL @ these two trying to kick the old "Bulldogs abandoned him" dead-horse ... Who could the source of this revelation be anyway ?
exactly. and if we didn't stand him down, they'd be ripping into us for that too

what a life they have, to be making so publicly known how much of a ****ing idiot each of them are
 

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I am glad the Bulldogs stood down that mofo,
 

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So when does he go to court?
 

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It will probably be adjourned for hearing, he wont be back any time soon.
 

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Have heard what Tandys charge relates to.

Tandy said he hadnt met a certain someone when asked by police. Police say he had met this person through a third party on one occasion.

The problem is this one charge will most likely drag on for many more months. They do not expect an outcome at the first court date at the start of march. I wonder how hardball the club will continue to play with Tandy, if this charge drags out in the courts.

And there is a potential for the match fixing allegation to be dropped and for this charge to stand.
 

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If this is the issue it sounds trivial, maybe they were there together but didn't say much so he could say he still doesn't know him, the cops will lose this one too.
 

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Have heard what Tandys charge relates to.

Tandy said he hadnt met a certain someone when asked by police. Police say he had met this person through a third party on one occasion.

The problem is this one charge will most likely drag on for many more months. They do not expect an outcome at the first court date at the start of march. I wonder how hardball the club will continue to play with Tandy, if this charge drags out in the courts.

And there is a potential for the match fixing allegation to be dropped and for this charge to stand.
id expect TG to keep him away from the club until this is resolved. it would be pretty silly to stand him down only to reinstate him months later before any outcome.
 

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As I stated earlier, tactic being used by the strike force to ruffle feathers. If no one talks, then it is all circumstantial, although out there for everyone to see. Obviously there was a rort.
 
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