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Matey he's getting paid the big bucks and he isn't stepping up.

Take a look at hokko at knights, he's taking command and he did that here as well.

The bigger your pay packet usually means the better and more focal point of the team you are which also leads to bigger criticism.

I really genuinely struggle to understand that if you have the core basic skills under your wing, that you should be able to train those skills to be better and then game management should be a fairly simple thing, it's a thinking man's position.

So what I'm saying is mbye has those basic core skills that should be improved upon but he's failed to show any progression
I was in the retain Hodkinson camp
Reynolds plays one game at the minimum standard required for FG for a 5/8 and he is now the messiah. 1 game in like 2-21/2 years. Ever think that the reason Reynolds goes "looking for the ball" more than Mbye is because Reynolds was gifted the better position over Mbye and get's to choose these things. Both are 5/8's not a HB, I think this point we all agree on. Mbye has been forced to be the "organiser" even though that is not his natural game right now. Reynold's is older, more experienced and a SOO player yet still cannot do this. Reynolds wants 800k per season. The way Reynolds played last night is the minimum he is required to play every single game for that amount of money or even to hold a halves position in FG. My hat off to JR, he played great last night and I love his passion.

Had JR been able to run a proper line last night we score 2-3 more tries, the amount of gaps there was on the inside and for straight running was massive. There was like 3-4 opportunities alone for that Slater type play just for Abbey alone. You mix Frawley with the speed and proper line running of Mbye than I guarantee some attacking footy we have long since forgotten in this team. Reynolds in this team is best as a utility player replacing Liccha with 15 minutes to go at the end of each half or to ignite some unorthodox play in chasing points. Come on with some up tempo and passion to ensure we keep the intensity up high in the danger times at the end of the halves. A half should not run crazy across field like he does as it destroys any space for our backs, this has been a massive fault for years. Early round in glimpses showed what blokes like Lee can do given early ball with open ground to challenge his opposite number, this cannot happen if old mate runs across and wastes the field.
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The thing is it's going to come down to who's on contract. If we don't chase Brooks or Moses then Hasler might see the future as Mbye/Frawley simply because Mbye is already contracted and Frawley cheap to re-sign.

If Hasler is coach I can never see Mbye used as a fullback. Maybe if Lichaa isn't re-signed he may move into Hooker in which case Reynolds may stay, but not for $800k.

Hasler needs to grow a set and leave Reynolds and Frawley together to see if there is potential though, nothing can be based on 1 game.
If Lichaa gets moved on we should still not re-sign Reynolds as there are at least 8 more viable options on the market for a proper 5/8
 

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I would love to see a utility on the bench. Mbye could share the hooking duties with Lichaa, if Lichaa focused on a quality 40 minutes he would be more effective. Mbye off bench can also cover a lot of positions if injuries arrive early in a game which inevitably they do.
 

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That's 1 thing he has over Mbye which may or may not be a matter of time, confidence and development. Mbye has speed, agility, passing, playmaking, defence and a higher talent threshold in spades on Reynolds without the 2-3 errors or penalties a game.

He's already had a better career year in 3 years then Reynolds in 6 years - while being played out of position.
I'll disagree about passing, playmaking and defence but will concede that he has the ability to improve on those facets of the game.

Passing - I've seen too many times this season Mbye throw up float passes to our flat footed forwards which then makes them even slower

Playmaking - Frawley showed playmaking last night and in his debut he showed a lot more than Mbye

Defence - no way on this one, Mbye doesn't read in defence well, and also Reynolds has been there many times to make a big play of pushing players over the sideline or back in goal.
 

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If Lichaa gets moved on we should still not re-sign Reynolds as there are at least 8 more viable options on the market for a proper 5/8
I'm not necessarily saying that's what I want but under the current board and coach I can see that as a strong possibility.
 

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I also think it may come down to who already has a contract. JR needs to play like last night for the rest of the season to even be considered for another one.....and certainly no-where near the reported 800k. 450k at the most. But I just don't see a spot for him tbh.
 

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I'll disagree about passing, playmaking and defence but will concede that he has the ability to improve on those facets of the game.

Passing - I've seen too many times this season Mbye throw up float passes to our flat footed forwards which then makes them even slower

Playmaking - Frawley showed playmaking last night and in his debut he showed a lot more than Mbye

Defence - no way on this one, Mbye doesn't read in defence well, and also Reynolds has been there many times to make a big play of pushing players over the sideline or back in goal.
Forget the three games this year - you're right he looks lacking in confidence at the moment. Last year Mbye scored more tries, set up more tries, put more players into holes made 20 more tackles and only missed 3 more then Josh
 

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I'm a huge Reynolds fan. Let's not forget that NSW won an origin series with Reynolds at 6. The issue has been the forward pack. Last night they were outstanding but unfortunately those performances are few and far between. Bulldogs forwards have been dominated more often than not & as a result Reynolds has struggled. He's a fine player . I can't say the same for Mbye. A reserve grade player mascaraiding as a first grader.
 

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Forget the three games this year - you're right he looks lacking in confidence at the moment. Last year Mbye scored more tries, set up more tries, put more players into holes made 20 more tackles and only missed 3 more then Josh
Not everything is stats man, there are other things that happen on the field, that aren't represented by stats but have the ability to change the momentum of a game or set up a point scoring oppurtunity.
 

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Not everything is stats man, there are other things that happen on the field, that aren't represented by stats but have the ability to change the momentum of a game or set up a point scoring oppurtunity.
You're absolutely right about that. "Stats don't lie, nor do they tell the whole story."

We are talking about tangible evidence that Mbye has created more points and opportunities though despite playing out of position.
 

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I THOUGHT HODKO WAS A GOOD FOIL FOR REYNOLDS TO DO HIS RUNNING GAME, A FUNNY JAMES GRAHAM IS THE ONLY THING FREDDIE AND ANDREW JOHNS LIKE ABOUT THE BULLDOGS,AND WHO CARES ABOUT MOSES MBYE MATURE VOICE
 

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It's a weird outrage against Mbye.

Agreed, Reynolds has done enough to start next week with Mbye on the bench
If, and it's a big if, Des sticks with Frawley (he'd be super crazy not to!), I would say that he would likely go with a Frawley Mbye combination with Reynolds coming off the bench with his energy.

Let's just hope Des sticks with keeping a genuine half in the starting squad and only has to figure out how to utilise Reynolds and Mbye
 

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If Lichaa gets moved on we should still not re-sign Reynolds as there are at least 8 more viable options on the market for a proper 5/8
5/8 is the least of our problems.

We need a 9, 1 & 7.

Hopefully Frawley will be the answer at 7.

Abbey needs time and if you want "instant" impact than you would chase Tedesco.

If you want "instant" impact from your halfback than you would sign Cronk and not the 2 overrated twats in Moses or Brooks

Our number 1 priority should be to sign Tedesco and throw Mbye in at dummy half.

Would also sign a player like Feldt cause we dont have any goalkickers whatsoever.

Abbey is rubbish with the boot and Mbye is good 1 week rubbish the following two
 

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5/8 is the least of our problems.

We need a 9, 1 & 7.

Hopefully Frawley will be the answer at 7.

Abbey needs time and if you want "instant" impact than you would chase Tedesco.

If you want "instant" impact from your halfback than you would sign Cronk and not the 2 overrated twats in Moses or Brooks

Our number 1 priority should be to sign Tedesco and throw Mbye in at dummy half.

Would also sign a player like Feldt cause we dont have any goalkickers whatsoever.

Abbey is rubbish with the boot and Mbye is good 1 week rubbish the following two
Yep, I'd add to that list that we need a proper 13. Someone with good pace across 10-20 meters who runs hard and direct and hits hard in defence. Zane Tetevano has all these attributes, is behind a few guys at the roosters and wouldn't be expensive.
 

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Yep, I'd add to that list that we need a proper 13. Someone with good pace across 10-20 meters who runs hard and direct and hits hard in defence. Zane Tetevano has all these attributes, is behind a few guys at the roosters and wouldn't be expensive.
I agree that we need a 13
 

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Yep, I'd add to that list that we need a proper 13. Someone with good pace across 10-20 meters who runs hard and direct and hits hard in defence. Zane Tetevano has all these attributes, is behind a few guys at the roosters and wouldn't be expensive.
Elliot, RFM are 2 options from within the club at 13. Elliot has the defence and workrate over RFM though and would be my pick. Rod Griffin could also be an option if he ever gets a debut
 

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Elliot, RFM are 2 options from within the club at 13. Elliot has the defence and workrate over RFM though and would be my pick. Rod Griffin could also be an option if he ever gets a debut
Elliott's case suffers because we have Graham and Tolman in the pack - for me personally, I want more impact from our Lock. As far as RFM he should be playing 80 on the left - Eastwood is just plain bad on the edge
 

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Elliott's case suffers because we have Graham and Tolman in the pack - for me personally, I want more impact from our Lock. As far as RFM he should be playing 80 on the left - Eastwood is just plain bad on the edge
Yh i agree with all that, Tolman and Graham starting really limits our options. Our whole squad needs a few changes, not just our spine like some people think.
 

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Mbye is more skillfull than Reynolds but Reynolds plays with more heart he never gives up on a play and puts himself in the game whether taking on the line or hustling on defence chasing from marker.

You look when he played his best footy and it was when he had a genuine 7 next to him ie Two GFs and a winning Origin series

I would move Mbye to 9 or centre or bench
 

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Forget the three games this year - you're right he looks lacking in confidence at the moment. Last year Mbye scored more tries, set up more tries, put more players into holes made 20 more tackles and only missed 3 more then Josh
We don't score points for last year, that's history and in the words of Janet Jackson 'What have you done for me lately '
 
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