News Jackson Topine takes Bulldogs to court

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League has always been tough both physically and mentally- not everyone is cut out for it regardless of playing ability
Old work colleague of mine played fringe 1sts with the Bronks and Raiders as a 2nd rower back in the naughties. Also flipped to super league for a couple of years. Got a science degree while playing and gave up at 24 because of two broken jaws in two years. Worked with me with his degree for a few years and then his missus decided to help him get his medical degree. So quit and did another 6 years of Uni, now works as a GP specialising in paeds.

Nothing wrong with this dude - absolute gym beast and mentally sharp as a tack. Just decided it wasn't for him and moved on. Fair play - each to their own.
 

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Agree.
but I’m pretty sure Jackson knows the protocol at the club he’s played at for 6 years.
This narrative that he was unsure is ridiculous.
I’ve been responsible for multiple incident investigations in my career and almost always, the responsible parties claim confusion and try to muddy the waters.
He’s not a fkn idiot, he knew the rules.

next minute

Bad Billy sues ANSTO for copping ionizing radiation for working long hours with radio isotopes and getting blue balls.
 

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On the outer? You know he started the week before the training sess. And he lawyered up when the Dogs said see ya later, your sick leave is up and since you're not coming to training, you can fck off. And u need help 4 your mental health issues, hope you get it. Or so the statement of claim says.

Not upset at all? So when you find something comical you put shit on him, name call etc etc someone with mental health issues. Which according to the dogs insiders, his mental kicked off a few days after the training session because of..... all the negative publicity about that training session and the comments people were making. So the stuff that triggered him, 90% of this forum is doing.

Now thats comical.
It's not like the club tried to get rid of him as soon as his sick leave was up, they tried to contact him,as did the NRL. He ignored correspondence, it appears correspondence with lawyers wasnt too tough for him, once he realised the Bulldogs wouldn't just keep paying him.
 

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You're deflecting, my one comment about him being late to training, that both the club and he himself admits (but gives a cop out excuse for) hardly relates to his mental health or the detriment to his mental health.

It wasn't his first training session at a brand new club, he was made aware that he had to turn up when the schedule said turn up.
Deflecting or failing to repeat what I've already said 20 times in this thread? Haven't seen anywhere that said he being punished was the problem, the level of punishment was. In particular given his view that he didn't need to be there for strapping and didn't think it applied to him.

You or my view is irrelevant. The above is in his evidence. And thats a fact unless the club can prove otherwise.
 

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Because they have this nasty habit of killing themselves occasionally. I know right - its very inconsiderate.
Thats the decision of the person and is very unfortunate for themselves and those around. He had access to more support to manage his health than 99% in the world. Time to take responsibility.
 

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Deflecting or failing to repeat what I've already said 20 times in this thread? Haven't seen anywhere that said he being punished was the problem, the level of punishment was. In particular given his view that he didn't need to be there for strapping and didn't think it applied to him.

You or my view is irrelevant. The above is in his evidence. And thats a fact unless the club can prove otherwise.

Doogie, a question mate.

6 years ago I came late to a meeting (completely my fault as I slept over) and my boss tore me a new one infront of all my team members.

To date I am still pissed off as I felt humiliated and embarrased.

Can I go ahead and sue my boss and the company for damages?

what are my chances of being successful in that lawsuit?
 

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It's not like the club tried to get rid of him as soon as his sick leave was up, they tried to contact him,as did the NRL. He ignored correspondence, it appears correspondence with lawyers wasnt too tough for him, once he realised the Bulldogs wouldn't just keep paying him.
The Australian can now also reveal how Topine’s final days at the club were orchestrated by Gould. Last October, Gould sent an email to Topine’s manager saying that he needed “to get the matter sorted so we can all move on”, and that Topine’s next payment would be his last.

The Bulldogs separately claimed the club had “no ongoing obligation to continue paying (Topine’s) Playing Fee after the expiry of 8 days personal/sick leave” because “his underlying mental and cognitive conditions were not “sustained when training or playing for the club’”.
This is disputed by Topine, who claims he suffered greatly and was deeply humiliated and that it caused him the loss of his livelihood.

While the club claimed at the time that he left the session smiling and happy, club mates and friends told The Australian that he suffered a serious mental breakdown.

He went on sick leave the following week and has not trained or played since.
Last November, the club stopped all payments to him, including for his medical bills.

The NRL has not deregistered Topine and, along with its integrity unit, has repeatedly reached out to the player since the incident.
In legal documents exchanged between the club and Topine’s lawyers, obtained by the Australian, it’s claimed Gould in effect sacked the young player last October when he sent an email to his manager saying Topine was “obviously not coming back to play with the Bulldogs” in 2024 and that they needed to “move on”.

Moving on meant that the club would cut all payments to Topine, including his ongoing medical bills. However, in the same email Gould acknowledged Topine had a need for “continuing welfare and rehab programs”.
Topine’s lawyers claim that Gould’s email was “a final and unambiguous decision” to sack the young player.
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Thats the decision of the person and is very unfortunate for themselves and those around. He had access to more support to manage his health than 99% in the world. Time to take responsibility.
So - its on him if he offs himself because he should get help to deal with people like you putting shit on him online?

So you have some sort of right to put shit on people if it gives you the kicks?

That up there with some of the best stuff I've ever heard on TK. Well played.
 

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Not reading all that in response to my post which was simply -he was fucking late.

Arrival FORWARD SLASH strapping ... should have been there at 7.50
You would have to be a moron to read that as anything other than arrive before 8am.
Or a lazy fuck. Or both.
The cancer has been cut out of our club thank fuck
 

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Doogie, a question mate.

6 years ago I came late to a meeting (completely my fault as I slept over) and my boss tore me a new one infront of all my team members.

To date I am still pissed off as I felt humiliated and embarrased.

Can I go ahead and sue my boss and the company for damages?

what are my chances of being successful in that lawsuit?
No idea - go see a lawyer. My workplace takes shite like this very seriously - so what would probably happen if you had no long term impacts is they'd give your boss a rollicking. If you did have long term impacts - go see a lawyer.

But also know thats it for your job though - but you'd probably get a little more to get rid of you. Well thats the way its rolled in my field.
 

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Agree.
but I’m pretty sure Jackson knows the protocol at the club he’s played at for 6 years.
This narrative that he was unsure is ridiculous.
I’ve been responsible for multiple incident investigations in my career and almost always, the responsible parties claim confusion and try to muddy the waters.
He’s not a fkn idiot, he knew the rules.
Well whether he is a fucken idiot is up for debate now he is trying to sue the club for his own failure.lol
 

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next minute

Bad Billy sues ANSTO for copping ionizing radiation for working long hours with radio isotopes and getting blue balls.
BB works at ANSTO? Knowing a few of the cowboys there - that explains so much :tearsofjoy: :tearsofjoy:
 

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So - its on him if he offs himself because he should get help to deal with people like you putting shit on him online?

So you have some sort of right to put shit on people if it gives you the kicks?

That up there with some of the best stuff I've ever heard on TK. Well played.
Everyone else is responsible for this shit **** failing except himself.
No wonder the team sucked arse for the last decade, shit attitude,no accountability and always looking for excuses.
If it wasn’t hard to be a first grade footballer every **** would do it.
His behaviour is embarrassing.
 

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BB works at ANSTO? Knowing a few of the cowboys there - that explains so much :tearsofjoy: :tearsofjoy:
Hey hey ,

I did too .

And cowboys don’t last long in that highly regulated environment.

They get zapped!
 

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Thanks again @jof
Lol,I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but is this relevant to it . . . So he goes on sick leave in July, he has 8 days sick leave available, he is unable to be contacted, at the end of October Gould sends the email they respond to
 

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So - its on him if he offs himself because he should get help to deal with people like you putting shit on him online?

So you have some sort of right to put shit on people if it gives you the kicks?

That up there with some of the best stuff I've ever heard on TK. Well played.
What’s it got to do with me? It’s him? He’s apparently got all of these mental health issues. That’s him. Ofcourse I have a right to voice my opinion on something based on the facts that have been shared. He did 15 minutes of wrestling and had a whinge.

if he has issues, he needs to be medically diagnosed. If he has issues and they’re affecting his work then they can be dealt with accordingly. If he isn’t diagnosed or he is classed as fit for work then he can put in work as expected and stop whinging.
 

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Hey hey ,

I did too .

And cowboys don’t last long in that highly regulated environment.

They get zapped!
lol. you clowns left alpha emitters in a primary school, moved some beta in the back of a car but forgot it was there until a site scan picked up on it a few days later and my fave, the senior safety manager that got caught burning warts off his fingers with liquid N. And got a promotion two months later.

And any arpansa review takes years so you're never held accountable.

Then we can talk about the little burial site out the back. How your acid and alkaline waste systems are always fckd up because people keep throwing shite out in the wrong bin (or whatever u call it).

And the academics I've work with down there are more stoned than I am - and thats saying something.

Seriously always expect to see Homer when I'm down there - its that kind of place :tearsofjoy:
 
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