Everything Trump - Discussion Thread

[Indiandog]

Plenty of maps like this all over the net, i don't believe any from either side. The beauty of not being muslim or jewish is i sit on the fence when it comes facts and take an unbiased view. I am very interested in history!

My studies so far indicated that the arabs of palestine have no language, religion or general culture that distinguishes them significantly and that the arabs of palestine never exercised national sovereignty in the country in which they lived. I also found there is no such thing as a Palestinian people, or a palestinian culture, or a palestinian language, or a palestinian history. Rather they have adopted arab culture, arabic language and arab history.

Back in the day Palestine included both modern day israel and jordan both arab and jewish residents of this area were referred to as palestinians. Before 1948, those who were called (and called themselves) Palestinians were jews, not Arabs this is why i am skeptical !!

Anyway it's a very interesting subject and probably should not be discussed in this thread, i have never found anyone unbiased like myself to discuss it with. Im off to work.

bro plenty of proof of palestenian currency, palestenian banks , palestenian contracts from early 1900's. to say Palestenian didnt exist is like saying Paksitan was never India, lol

what we are talking here now is apartheid , displacement of palestenian people and settlement of jewish people, which is still happening.

even if you say palestenian was created after 1948, what was the palestine map at the time of the division and palestine map now.

 

[Indiandog]

They displaced them bro and they weren't even enemies to them. The ottomans took asavtange over Christian nations killing each other lmao claiming their side is the true Christians side and the ottomans were like cool we'all just go and kill a few million Armenian Christians and get them out of the land.
It wouldn't have been a genocide if the Armenians were at war with them, that would have just been a death toll coz war brings a death toll but coz the Armenians weren't fighting them they were being exterminated for religious reasons it became genocide which turkey fails to acknowledge.
It's just like the Christian Serbs genociding the Bosnian Muslims pathetic what happened there

fucken hell, i need to read a bit more on this.

 

[Realist90]

Anyways let's get back to actual trump related things before this thread gets the trash can lol even though we're having a mature debate and talk.

 

[Realist90]

fucken hell, i need to read a bit more on this.

i never even knew about it till after school and I went to a catholic school lol fkn lol!
But we learnt plenty about the holocaust

 

[Indiandog]

Anyways let's get back to actual trump related things before this thread gets the trash can lol even though we're having a mature debate and talk.

yeah i know, Mr.I doesnt like us talking about Isreal-Palestine issue.

so lets get back on trump bashing

 

[DroidDog]

also I dont disagree with what you say, jews were killed and maasacered in europe but they were given the land in middle east.

fuck how does that work?

shouldnt they be getting the land somewhere in Europe where majority of the current isrealis have come from, lol

Jews have lived in and around modern day israel for almost 5k years, it's the biggest population of jews in the one place, that's why the UN declared the state of israel in 1947 as the jewish homeland.

 

[Realist90]

Jews have lived in and around modern day israel for almost 5k years, it's the biggest population of jews in the one place, that's why the UN declared the state of israel in 1947 as the jewish homeland.

You know what it sorta sounds like the British wanted Jews out of Europe as well and took a pc approach and said aye guys we will give you land because you deserve this. But really behind the scenes they're like yes finally Jews out of Europe and we did it without genociding them

 

[Indiandog]

i never even knew about it till after school and I went to a catholic school lol fkn lol!
But we learnt plenty about the holocaust

yeah a bit like Pakistanis have no fucken clue that majority of the muslims scholars of India were against the partition, lol

and when you tell them they look at you as if you are speaking greek.

Funny even the pakis knew that Jinnah who was the father of Pakistan was a purely secular guy and had nothing to do with Islam. lol

 

[DroidDog]

bro plenty of proof of palestenian currency, palestenian banks , palestenian contracts from early 1900's. to say Palestenian didnt exist is like saying Paksitan was never India, lol

what we are talking here now is apartheid , displacement of palestenian people and settlement of jewish people, which is still happening.

even if you say palestenian was created after 1948, what was the palestine map at the time of the division and palestine map now.

Man i would love to discuss but i don't think we should !!

 

[Indiandog]

Jews have lived in and around modern day israel for almost 5k years, it's the biggest population of jews in the one place, that's why the UN declared the state of israel in 1947 as the jewish homeland.

My research has shown Jews were predominantly in Europe, hence why they allvmigrated to Middle east after the creation of Isreal.

remember 6 million of them died in Europe, so they have to be more in europe than in Middle east.

 

[Realist90]

Man i would love to discuss but i don't think we should !!

We should have a secluded thread of only a certain allowed number of members to be allowed to discuss and debate these sensitive matters without people causing trouble. Just a literal all out debate, all facets all opinions and just debate.

 

[Indiandog]

Man i would love to discuss but i don't think we should !!

yeah righto.

 

[Indiandog]

We should have a secluded thread of only a certain allowed number of members to be allowed to discuss and debate these sensitive matters without people causing trouble. Just a literal all out debate, all facets all opinions and just debate.

yeah i think so too, hey i am all for isreal if Pakistan can exist, so can Isreal, but they have no right to push palestenians out of their lands just like palestenians have no right to push jews out of isreal.

 

[DroidDog]

yeah i think so too, hey i am all for isreal if Pakistan can exist, so can Isreal, but they have no right to push palestenians out of their lands just like palestenians have no right to push jews out of isreal.

My question is define a palestinian. Palestinians back in the day were also jews not just arabs.

 

[Indiandog]

My question is define a palestinian. Palestinians back in the day were also jews not just arabs.

yeah true, a Palestinian is/was also a Christian.

majority of the jews were more in Nazi Germany than the entire middle east , even by the numbers you take from the most pro Isreali and anti palestenian website.

there is clearly something sinister happening in Palestine or part of which is now called Isreal since 1948, only Muslims from that area have been made into biggest displaced people currently in the world.

See I keep bringing in pakistan/ india situation into this debate, 20% of indians are muslims and 5% of pakistan are hindus but neither of them have been pushed or displaced from their homes since the biggest migration happened back in 1947. why we continue to see only palestenians being pushed out of their homes since 1948 and jewish population in palestine (now isreal) increasing every year and also the isreali territories.

 

[Mr Invisible]

*COUGH*
http://www.thekennel.net.au/forum/i...rum-rules-as-of-sep-2016.103519/#post-3027552
*COUGH*

Clocks a ticking on this thread if we keep this discussion up. I'm not going to repeat myself again.

 

[belmore_utd]

@Realist90

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/p...soros-gave-nearly-90-million-to-feminist-anti

 

[Realist90]

@Realist90

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/p...soros-gave-nearly-90-million-to-feminist-anti

So you know how the leftists are always saying white men this white men that regarding this election?
It's actually rich white men behind the whole leftist politically correct movement which make sense as pc has shown it's true colours, it's a bit of nazi socialism whilst also having communism.
People really need to wake the fuk up instead of being brain dead fkn zombies thinking that they're above everyone coz they're apparently more compassionate. If anything this election has proven is that the leftists are even worse than redneck hill Billy's and the biggest sore losers

 

[CaptainJackson]

We should have a secluded thread of only a certain allowed number of members to be allowed to discuss and debate these sensitive matters without people causing trouble. Just a literal all out debate, all facets all opinions and just debate.

With comments like PC is nazi socialism and a bit of communism, I'm sure that thread will reach intellectual peaks

 

[chris_e_fresh]

with out siding with anyone and im not a fan of his

but i like the way trump thinks he wants to make america good again instead of sending everything to third world countries to get built

our goverment just licks everyones elses balls and sells everything we have off to other countries


the biggest fuck up Australia did was sell the gas in the NT for much less then what its worth

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...hore-gas-wealth-is-going-20161009-gryaoi.html