News Dogs Presser

[ricko_29]

That English journo sounds like he's on here.

 

[B-Train]

The one legitimate question at the end and Baz and Jackson look like they're trying not to laugh and had no response.

Sums up Baz. He's got all of the answers for the easy questions but has no idea what to say when someone asks a real question..

 

[Mitchellmoses]

Why were all the journalists English?

 

[Psycho Doggie]

I don't mind the response to the stats question. The bloke was using "averages" as part of his argument, which immediately makes it invalid for commenting on a specific game.

Fact: in every game so far our 7 has had more touches than Burton, and we've complained that he isn't getting in the game enough. Yesterday was very different, Burto got more touches than our 7, in fact he got more touches than any other game besides the Donkos game when we had 60% of the ball.
Fact: we had less ball yesterday than any game this year. And much less in the attacking zone.

It looked as though Flanagan played conservatively, but after the putrid media last week, are we surprised? He got a safe game under his belt, seemed to communicate well, had sensible involvement. It was a suitable reintroduction to first grade given all the crap that has gone on.

In the process of having a safe but solid first game back he has left egg on the face of all the muck rakers going on about the club not talking to him, or duty of care rubbish. He is clearly as much a part of the squad as anyone, and he looks happy and focused, no issues, other than dumb muck rakers.

The irrelevant question at the end perhaps shows that the media can't handle being wrong.

 

[B-Train]

For those that can't be bothered, the question was..

English Journo: "I've noticed that the forwards get involved a lot down in the 20 through the first few weeks and the halves struggle to get enough quality touches (which was backed up by stats provided by the journo).. Is that something that you need to work on or look at?

Baz: "No"

 

[B-Train]

I don't mind the response to the stats question. The bloke was using "averages" as part of his argument, which immediately makes it invalid for commenting on a specific game.

Fact: in every game so far our 7 has had more touches than Burton, and we've complained that he isn't getting in the game enough. Yesterday was very different, Burto got more touches than our 7, in fact he got more touches than any other game besides the Donkos game when we had 60% of the ball.
Fact: we had less ball yesterday than any game this year. And much less in the attacking zone.

It looked as though Flanagan played conservatively, but after the putrid media last week, are we surprised? He got a safe game under his belt, seemed to communicate well, had sensible involvement. It was a suitable reintroduction to first grade given all the crap that has gone on.

In the process of having a safe but solid first game back he has left egg on the face of all the muck rakers going on about the club not talking to him, or duty of care rubbish. He is clearly as much a part of the squad as anyone, and he looks happy and focused, no issues, other than dumb muck rakers.

The irrelevant question at the end perhaps shows that the media can't handle being wrong.

How's it an irrelevant question though? He was asking about the first five games, not just last night...

It's obvious to everyone that our forwards get too many touches as first receiver or on settlers in the 20. We waste all of our sets down there because JMK continually wastes tackles by giving it to a forward. It was a question we've all been asking since Baz took over...

 

[cntrbry bnkstwn]

I don't mind the response to the stats question. The bloke was using "averages" as part of his argument, which immediately makes it invalid for commenting on a specific game.

Fact: in every game so far our 7 has had more touches than Burton, and we've complained that he isn't getting in the game enough. Yesterday was very different, Burto got more touches than our 7, in fact he got more touches than any other game besides the Donkos game when we had 60% of the ball.
Fact: we had less ball yesterday than any game this year. And much less in the attacking zone.

It looked as though Flanagan played conservatively, but after the putrid media last week, are we surprised? He got a safe game under his belt, seemed to communicate well, had sensible involvement. It was a suitable reintroduction to first grade given all the crap that has gone on.

In the process of having a safe but solid first game back he has left egg on the face of all the muck rakers going on about the club not talking to him, or duty of care rubbish. He is clearly as much a part of the squad as anyone, and he looks happy and focused, no issues, other than dumb muck rakers.

The irrelevant question at the end perhaps shows that the media can't handle being wrong.

how was the question irrelevant?

 

[Family Guy]

For those that can't be bothered, the question was..

English Journo: "I've noticed that the forwards get involved a lot down in the 20 through the first few weeks and the halves struggle to get enough quality touches (which was backed up by stats provided by the journo).. Is that something that you need to work on or look at?

Baz: "No"

WTF. So Baz has no problem with the million settlers we take every set. If Baz can't see the correlation between our putrid attack and the useless settlers we take every attacking set then surely that's enough of a reason to sack him. What is Gus waiting for.

 

[Chris Harding]

Won’t watch, not until we string a few wins back to back or get a new coach to chance this fucked system.!!

I did the opposite. Turned off the game when it got to 14-0, and went off and did something useful. Then watched the presser, and the lowlights - that told me all I needed to know.

 

[Psycho Doggie]

how was the question irrelevant?

I'd call into question the stats for a start (against Storm Wakeham got 50 touches, and against Donkos Avo got 60), but against the Strom the halves got a lot more touches than they did yesterday, especially in attack, and we got 0. Time and again we fed it to the halves and got shut down.

More relevant would be to compare other stats from the same game. Cleary 48 touches, Lui 33. Given they had a lot more ball as a halves pair they touched the ball LESS relative to amount of possession than our halves pair did (Burton 45, Flanagan 25).

 

[B-Train]

I'd call into question the stats for a start (against Storm Wakeham got 50 touches, and against Donkos Avo got 60), but against the Strom the halves got a lot more touches than they did yesterday, especially in attack, and we got 0. Time and again we fed it to the halves and got shut down.

More relevant would be to compare other stats from the same game. Cleary 48 touches, Lui 33. Given they had a lot more ball as a halves pair they touched the ball LESS relative to amount of possession than our halves pair did (Burton 45, Flanagan 25).

You're focusing too much on the stats and not the point of the question. The question was, do you think the forwards are getting in the way too much in the 20 and the halves need more touches?

Everyone has been asking this question. Everyone knows the answer is yes. It'd be nice for Baz to address it but the question hit too close to home and he didn't have a ready made answer so he shut it down.

 

[cntrbry bnkstwn]

I'd call into question the stats for a start (against Storm Wakeham got 50 touches, and against Donkos Avo got 60), but against the Strom the halves got a lot more touches than they did yesterday, especially in attack, and we got 0. Time and again we fed it to the halves and got shut down.

More relevant would be to compare other stats from the same game. Cleary 48 touches, Lui 33. Given they had a lot more ball as a halves pair they touched the ball LESS relative to amount of possession than our halves pair did (Burton 45, Flanagan 25).

i think the question was more aimed at scenerios where we are attacking the opp tryline, not so much how many touches but why are the halves 2nd or 3rd receivers in that situation

 

[Psycho Doggie]

You're focusing too much on the stats and not the point of the question. The question was, do you think the forwards are getting in the way too much in the 20 and the halves need more touches?

Everyone has been asking this question. Everyone knows the answer is yes. It'd be nice for Baz to address it but the question hit too close to home and he didn't have a ready made answer so he shut it down.

The stats used don't back up the question asked. The forwards have to be involved in order to win the halves time and space. Storm are the masters of it because they consistently win the ruck, by fair means or foul.

How many tries did Penriff score yesterday in which their (SOO) halves had key involvement? They won the game in the forwards, which is where you usually need to win the game, unless you are the Doncos and don't get pulled up for obstruction.

Anyone who thinks the answer is merely to give the ball to our halves more often doesn't know the game. You can throw it to them all you like, but until our forwards are winning the middle third they aren't going to do much with it, go back and have another look at the first 20 minutes of the Storm game.

 

[wendog33]

I did the opposite. Turned off the game when it got to 14-0, and went off and did something useful. Then watched the presser, and the lowlights - that told me all I needed to know.

Sums up the state of our game. All these new players and nothing much has changed.

 

[B-Train]

The stats used don't back up the question asked. The forwards have to be involved in order to win the halves time and space. Storm are the masters of it because they consistently win the ruck, by fair means or foul.

How many tries did Penriff score yesterday in which their (SOO) halves had key involvement? They won the game in the forwards, which is where you usually need to win the game, unless you are the Doncos and don't get pulled up for obstruction.

Anyone who thinks the answer is merely to give the ball to our halves more often doesn't know the game. You can throw it to them all you like, but until our forwards are winning the middle third they aren't going to do much with it, go back and have another look at the first 20 minutes of the Storm game.

The big difference is Penrith have Yeo who is one of the best ball playing forwards and Api who gives great service and makes good decisions.

We have Jackson who is the worst ball playing forward dominating touches as a link man and JMK who provides the worst service.

We can't copy Penriths style with inferior players. We need to get the forwards out of the way and let our halves get more touches in the 20. We have 4 settlers every set in the 20 because of JMK and Jackson wasting tackles. That's why it's a fair question and it'd be nice if Baz addressed it.

 

[Philmus]

'the six good ball sets we had'. In 80 mins

 

[Philmus]

That English journo sounds like he's on here.

He must've taken alot out of Barrett's detailed answer too

 

[Howie B]

The big difference is Penrith have Yeo who is one of the best ball playing forwards and Api who gives great service and makes good decisions.

We have Jackson who is the worst ball playing forward dominating touches as a link man and JMK who provides the worst service.

We can't copy Penriths style with inferior players. We need to get the forwards out of the way and let our halves get more touches in the 20. We have 4 settlers every set in the 20 because of JMK and Jackson wasting tackles. That's why it's a fair question and it'd be nice if Baz addressed it.

And also Penriths back 5 were awesome yesterday in yardage out of their own end. Our back 5 either got hammered or dropped the fuckin ball

 

[Bulldog1966]

He must've taken alot out of Barrett's detailed answer too

He would have taken enough out of it to start another sack Baz thread lol
though I did read their being merged as new post game ones are created each week.

 

[Total Fool]

From that presser last night… it won’t matter how many f{}ck up’s Dufty does or will do… he’s the teams main man for the No.1 jersey

One major thing at the start of the season was that you’d say the good trait Dufty has is he follows the ball, so 2nd phase play etc, he would be in the mix….. 5 games down, he’s almost non existent in attack! He doesn’t support the forwards looking for the offload…. Why do we coach it out of f{}cking players?