Dean Pay mega thread

[Wolfmother]

Btw I hope you have a charger with you at your workplace.

Wolfie at Woolies...

Lol.. Just a side note woolies have good mobile plans

 

[Wahesh]

I don't even know who he is but couldn't be worse than des

He made Ian Robert and Glenn Lazarus his bitches!

Watch this vid Wolfy, fast-forward to 3:35

 

[Wahesh]

Would you look at that... a new CEO, Coach and Captain all within the space of a few months!

 

[Bad Billy]

Klemmer won't be captain.

 

[B-Train]

It's good to hear from Pay. None of us know how he or any other unproven coach will fair but hearing Pay speak of his love for the club and his awareness of the culture being lost are encouraging signs.

As is him mentioning the younger players at the club. Hopefully if he gets the job restoring the culture and a work ethic are the priorities as well as playing guys based on merit and not reputation. Hopefully more young guys are given a chance and we can finally recover from Hasler's reign of terror.

I already feel a sense of excitement and positivity around the club again! Please hire Pay and not Madge!

 

[B-Train]

Could you imagine Klemmer as captain trying to reason with the refs after a horrible call? He'd headbutt them and bite their ear off Tyson style!

 

[_G-Dog_]

Happy to give Pay a shot..

Lets hope hes better than some other ex players running around Mcgregor Barrett Kearney Brown Cleary etc

 

[D.O.W.]

I tend to agree i think all this bulldogs culture talk is a bit over the top, didn't seem to be a problem in 2012 under des and like you said having kevin moore did us no favours. At the end of the day we need to sort out the attacking football which has nothing to do with culture. Shouldn't need a former bulldogs player to get the players to play with aggression and the teams online defence for a large part of the year was really impressive. I think dymock deserves a shot

A big part of Haslers early success was due to having inherited alot of the "Bulldogs Culture", that stuff is instilled over many years of football, it doesn't just disappear overnight, but, if not bottled correctly, will eventually dwindle away and ultimately, that's what has happened.

To give credit where credit is due, he did establish the Barba run around movement which was near impossible to defend against and encouraged the forwards to pass before the line generating countless metres, but the lights went out in the ideas department somewhere last season and we repeated the same dribble week after week after week..it was literally insanity.

Change was needed in this group and we now have that, we will see a different type of intensity next season and the players will feel empowered to play to their strengths.

We should not expect immediate results in his first year, but if Pay can instill an attitude and a positive brand of football and have the guys playing for each other we will be in for a very good season and no doubt success down the track.

 

[Novdoggie]

Just sign Dean Pay and let the rebuilding commence

I agree and it's a start but the rebuilding should not include Dib and the board. Full cleanout will get us back on track.

 

[Riggs80]

It will never be like it was in the past. The NRL Ruined it by listening to Gould all those years ago and introduced under 20s comp. Canterbury had built dogs of war culture on a lot of hard heads that did the yards in reserve grade and when talented youngsters came through they were looked after by the old heads.

Players of today are soft , great at wrestling but poor one v one defenders

 

[magdog]

Sick of hearing that Pay and Dymock are true Bulldogs. Does everyone remember them deserting the club during the super league war?

You could just as easily say that the Bulldogs deserted the ARL!!

Regardless, they were extraordinary circumstances, had super league not happened, it's likely they would have stuck around...so you can't crucify them for that 20 years later.

 

[M4cca]

A big part of Haslers early success was due to having inherited alot of the "Bulldogs Culture", that stuff is instilled over many years of football, it doesn't just disappear overnight, but, if not bottled correctly, will eventually dwindle away and ultimately, that's what has happened.

To give credit where credit is due, he did establish the Barba run around movement which was near impossible to defend against and encouraged the forwards to pass before the line generating countless metres, but the lights went out in the ideas department somewhere last season and we repeated the same dribble week after week after week..it was literally insanity.

Change was needed in this group and we now have that, we will see a different type of intensity next season and the players will feel empowered to play to their strengths.

We should not expect immediate results in his first year, but if Pay can instill an attitude and a positive brand of football and have the guys playing for each other we will be in for a very good season and no doubt success down the track.

He inherited a side from kevin moore/dymock which should have had the bulldog culture but was still outside the 8. I agree that having a unique culture around the club is important but its not the sole factor thats gonna win football games and i personally don't think its crucial we have a former player as coach

 

[GUSLER]

• BY PAUL KENT

THE danger for Des Hasler is his team no longer practises his philosophy. It is a shift in ground that can be the great death rattle for coaches.

Hasler has clear ideas how football teams should play. They were unconventional but all his.

He chiselled this formula in stone after his first year at Canterbury.

Hasler took the Dogs to the 2012 grand final with a philosophy built on everything he learned at Manly, which was considerable.

It relied less on football instinct than it did on the purity of numbers.

Hasler realised he was able to feed his statistics into his computer and by addressing a shortfall here, say, a slow play-the-ball, a domino effect would arise over there. Everybody got better, so his approach was meticulous. It was attention to detail.

Play-the-ball speed, errors, post contact metres ...

The Sea Eagles built a style all their own on the back of it. After winning the premiership with Manly in 2011 Hasler loaded all that data into his car and drove to Belmore where the computers have never been the same since. They groaned and winced under the onslaught.

But it brought success.

Doing what he knew worked at Manly, Hasler took Canterbury to the grand final that first season and it wasn’t until later, in the quiet moments, that he acknowledged his greatest satisfaction was knowing that what he made work at Manly he could make work anywhere.

Until now.

Canterbury have no style now. They don’t play like Canterbury did when Hasler had them singing and they don’t play like Canterbury did any time before, when the football club bulged with silverware.

The question the Bulldogs need to ask is what has changed and can it be fixed?

The club trusted in Hasler when he first arrived. It was a significant leap.

For 30 years the club forged itself on an identity that was the Canterbury style, tough and rugged with little compromise.

The Dogs of War. It fed who they were, how they saw themselves. It underpinned everything from recruitment to coaching to how they wanted to win.

Hasler veered away from that when he arrived and the board, learning to trust outsiders, nervously allowed it to happen.

Almost immediately we saw a new style.

The forwards no longer punished their opposition so much as they finessed them, short balls and tap-ons and cute plays that initially confused the defence.

Hasler’s success that first season justified every decision the club made.

But it is clear now that despite finals appearances in all five seasons at Belmore, including two grand finals, the Bulldogs are getting further from a premiership, not nearer. The finesse no longer works.

Hasler is coaching as hard as ever and the players are trying, just not executing. The worry is there seems no way out.

Underneath, the club has allowed their formerly strong junior ranks to wither and serious questions remain around the recruitment and retention in recent seasons.

The inability to rejuvenate the roster is costing Hasler. He can still coach, but he needs to move on for his own reasons as much as Canterbury need to move him on.

It is time for Canterbury to do what they always do in times of trouble and trust in their own.

Dean Pay was rugby league’s best kept secret when he was at the Bulldogs. The club believed in him but few else did.

Then in his fifth season in the top grade Pay was picked to play for Country against a City pack high on reputation.

Some are still bruised from the punishment inflicted that night.

He just had to get picked for the Blues, and so he did it again against Queensland. He toured with the Kangaroos later that season and became a mainstay in the national team.

You simply couldn’t leave him out.

Now an assistant at Canberra nothing has changed. He did it the Canterbury way then, still does now.




This might be the first time I've ever agreed with Paul ****.

Further to that, we havent made the top 4 for 5 straight years. If you cant win the GF from outside the top , then for 5 straight years Des has failed. A small run in 2014 masked the failure. All the time getting paid more than any other coach, and arguably spending more than any other coach. He has been one of Canterbury's worst performing coaches in the past 50 years.

 

[Dogzof95]

Further to that, we havent made the top 4 for 5 straight years. If you cant win the GF from outside the top , then for 5 straight years Des has failed. A small run in 2014 masked the failure. All the time getting paid more than any other coach, and arguably spending more than any other coach. He has been one of Canterbury's worst performing coaches in the past 50 years.

He's had unlimited resources 100%, we've over spent our budget to even fulfill his goals and we've still managed to go backwards!

 

[2144superman]

not sold on Dean Pay...

 

[Dogzof95]

not sold on Dean Pay...

If your not sold on him, you don't have to pay!

 

[likeadoggy2]

Glad Pay got the job (if true)... what better options are out there atm?

todd payten

 

[Heckler]

I don't expect anyone to be sold on any rookie coach as they dont have any track record in first grade. We can only go by their values and past playing duties. We can also go by their passion. If Hethro says PAYS THE WAY, well then Pays the way.

 

[Iambeak]

• BY PAUL KENT

THE danger for Des Hasler is his team no longer practises his philosophy. It is a shift in ground that can be the great death rattle for coaches.

Hasler has clear ideas how football teams should play. They were unconventional but all his.

He chiselled this formula in stone after his first year at Canterbury.

Hasler took the Dogs to the 2012 grand final with a philosophy built on everything he learned at Manly, which was considerable.

It relied less on football instinct than it did on the purity of numbers.

Hasler realised he was able to feed his statistics into his computer and by addressing a shortfall here, say, a slow play-the-ball, a domino effect would arise over there. Everybody got better, so his approach was meticulous. It was attention to detail.

Play-the-ball speed, errors, post contact metres ...

The Sea Eagles built a style all their own on the back of it. After winning the premiership with Manly in 2011 Hasler loaded all that data into his car and drove to Belmore where the computers have never been the same since. They groaned and winced under the onslaught.

But it brought success.

Doing what he knew worked at Manly, Hasler took Canterbury to the grand final that first season and it wasn’t until later, in the quiet moments, that he acknowledged his greatest satisfaction was knowing that what he made work at Manly he could make work anywhere.

Until now.

Canterbury have no style now. They don’t play like Canterbury did when Hasler had them singing and they don’t play like Canterbury did any time before, when the football club bulged with silverware.

The question the Bulldogs need to ask is what has changed and can it be fixed?

The club trusted in Hasler when he first arrived. It was a significant leap.

For 30 years the club forged itself on an identity that was the Canterbury style, tough and rugged with little compromise.

The Dogs of War. It fed who they were, how they saw themselves. It underpinned everything from recruitment to coaching to how they wanted to win.

Hasler veered away from that when he arrived and the board, learning to trust outsiders, nervously allowed it to happen.

Almost immediately we saw a new style.

The forwards no longer punished their opposition so much as they finessed them, short balls and tap-ons and cute plays that initially confused the defence.

Hasler’s success that first season justified every decision the club made.

But it is clear now that despite finals appearances in all five seasons at Belmore, including two grand finals, the Bulldogs are getting further from a premiership, not nearer. The finesse no longer works.

Hasler is coaching as hard as ever and the players are trying, just not executing. The worry is there seems no way out.

Underneath, the club has allowed their formerly strong junior ranks to wither and serious questions remain around the recruitment and retention in recent seasons.

The inability to rejuvenate the roster is costing Hasler. He can still coach, but he needs to move on for his own reasons as much as Canterbury need to move him on.

It is time for Canterbury to do what they always do in times of trouble and trust in their own.

Dean Pay was rugby league’s best kept secret when he was at the Bulldogs. The club believed in him but few else did.

Then in his fifth season in the top grade Pay was picked to play for Country against a City pack high on reputation.

Some are still bruised from the punishment inflicted that night.

He just had to get picked for the Blues, and so he did it again against Queensland. He toured with the Kangaroos later that season and became a mainstay in the national team.

You simply couldn’t leave him out.

Now an assistant at Canberra nothing has changed. He did it the Canterbury way then, still does now.




This might be the first time I've ever agreed with Paul ****.

• BY PAUL KENT

THE danger for Des Hasler is his team no longer practises his philosophy. It is a shift in ground that can be the great death rattle for coaches.

Hasler has clear ideas how football teams should play. They were unconventional but all his.

He chiselled this formula in stone after his first year at Canterbury.

Hasler took the Dogs to the 2012 grand final with a philosophy built on everything he learned at Manly, which was considerable.

It relied less on football instinct than it did on the purity of numbers.

Hasler realised he was able to feed his statistics into his computer and by addressing a shortfall here, say, a slow play-the-ball, a domino effect would arise over there. Everybody got better, so his approach was meticulous. It was attention to detail.

Play-the-ball speed, errors, post contact metres ...

The Sea Eagles built a style all their own on the back of it. After winning the premiership with Manly in 2011 Hasler loaded all that data into his car and drove to Belmore where the computers have never been the same since. They groaned and winced under the onslaught.

But it brought success.

Doing what he knew worked at Manly, Hasler took Canterbury to the grand final that first season and it wasn’t until later, in the quiet moments, that he acknowledged his greatest satisfaction was knowing that what he made work at Manly he could make work anywhere.

Until now.

Canterbury have no style now. They don’t play like Canterbury did when Hasler had them singing and they don’t play like Canterbury did any time before, when the football club bulged with silverware.

The question the Bulldogs need to ask is what has changed and can it be fixed?

The club trusted in Hasler when he first arrived. It was a significant leap.

For 30 years the club forged itself on an identity that was the Canterbury style, tough and rugged with little compromise.

The Dogs of War. It fed who they were, how they saw themselves. It underpinned everything from recruitment to coaching to how they wanted to win.

Hasler veered away from that when he arrived and the board, learning to trust outsiders, nervously allowed it to happen.

Almost immediately we saw a new style.

The forwards no longer punished their opposition so much as they finessed them, short balls and tap-ons and cute plays that initially confused the defence.

Hasler’s success that first season justified every decision the club made.

But it is clear now that despite finals appearances in all five seasons at Belmore, including two grand finals, the Bulldogs are getting further from a premiership, not nearer. The finesse no longer works.

Hasler is coaching as hard as ever and the players are trying, just not executing. The worry is there seems no way out.

Underneath, the club has allowed their formerly strong junior ranks to wither and serious questions remain around the recruitment and retention in recent seasons.

The inability to rejuvenate the roster is costing Hasler. He can still coach, but he needs to move on for his own reasons as much as Canterbury need to move him on.

It is time for Canterbury to do what they always do in times of trouble and trust in their own.

Dean Pay was rugby league’s best kept secret when he was at the Bulldogs. The club believed in him but few else did.

Then in his fifth season in the top grade Pay was picked to play for Country against a City pack high on reputation.

Some are still bruised from the punishment inflicted that night.

He just had to get picked for the Blues, and so he did it again against Queensland. He toured with the Kangaroos later that season and became a mainstay in the national team.

You simply couldn’t leave him out.

Now an assistant at Canberra nothing has changed. He did it the Canterbury way then, still does now.




This might be the first time I've ever agreed with Paul ****.

 

[Mr Invisible]

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