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Rodzilla

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Rinse and repeat. Swinging like a barnyard door in a hurricane because you have nothing. Enjoy the Sabbath lizard, I’ve got stuff to do that doesn’t involve arguing with a loon or troll. See ya! :-).
you asked me to provide one example, i provided the example
 

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don't be like hacky mcaxe and lose your childhood friends, be reasonable, sell your pfizer shares and switch sides before its too late
 

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Poor grammar: what I meant to say was that it should be being used as a treatment and explored as a preventative to at least rival Molnupiravir.
Yeah. I'm not openly against the use of it. But I understand why they banned it. It does have some pretty decent adverse side effects and they're concerned that it may mess with other treatments.

Also, it puts a strain on supply. Ivermectin is used to treat major parasitic diseases in humans. If all the supply is going to treat Covid, and if it doesn't work, that means you're throwing away medication that could be used elsewhere.

Imagine if you have thousands of kids in Africa going permanently blind because people in 1st world countries want to use their medication as a placebo.
 

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Yeah. I'm not openly against the use of it. But I understand why they banned it. It does have some pretty decent adverse side effects and they're concerned that it may mess with other treatments.

Also, it puts a strain on supply. Ivermectin is used to treat major parasitic diseases in humans. If all the supply is going to treat Covid, and if it doesn't work, that means you're throwing away medication that could be used elsewhere.

Imagine if you have thousands of kids in Africa going permanently blind because people in 1st world countries want to use their medication as a placebo.
my recommendation is to make much more of it
 

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Yeah. I'm not openly against the use of it. But I understand why they banned it. It does have some pretty decent adverse side effects and they're concerned that it may mess with other treatments.

Also, it puts a strain on supply. Ivermectin is used to treat major parasitic diseases in humans. If all the supply is going to treat Covid, and if it doesn't work, that means you're throwing away medication that could be used elsewhere.

Imagine if you have thousands of kids in Africa going permanently blind because people in 1st world countries want to use their medication as a placebo.
The side effects are pretty mild from what I've read?
 

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Clive Palmer? That’s not an example.
Someone with credibility if you’re going to try that.
ok so anybody i name is apparently not an example because you decided he/she hasn't got any credibility, and anybody who speaks against the narrative instantly has credibility removed, its a neat and tidy arrangement you have

for example if i mention the president of the united states of america himself said it was a hoax and the mainstream media failed to report it or investigate it, you will say the president of the united states has no credibility
 

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india crushed the virus delta variant without the vaccine and the only reporting by the media was to explain how it wasn't ivermectin that did it
 

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ok so anybody i name is apparently not an example because you decided he/she hasn't got any credibility, and anybody who speaks against the narrative instantly has credibility removed, its a neat and tidy arrangement you have

for example if i mention the president of the united states of america himself said it was a hoax and the mainstream media failed to report it or investigate it, you will say the president of the united states has no credibility
Do you ever run out of straws to clutch? Palmer himself has proved many times he has no credibility but you want to twist it into something else. Speaking of lack of credibility, you can’t even troll very well :tearsofjoy:.
 

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The side effects are pretty mild from what I've read?
Somewhat. I think it's like anything. In regular doses it's apparently not too uncommon to get diarrhea, nausia, headaches, the usual stuff. In rare cases it can be much worse but those are very rare cases.
 

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Somewhat. I think it's like anything. In regular doses it's apparently not too uncommon to get diarrhea, nausia, headaches, the usual stuff. In rare cases it can be much worse but those are very rare cases.
Well let's try some of the other methods that those infected with COVID have been using as self medication, such as inhaling hydrogen peroxide in a nebuliser or gargling household disinfectant...internet do it yourself cures. Can't be as many side effects as with Ivermectin can there??????

Apparently that is the go at the moment with calls to the NSW Poisons Information centre up 10% in the past financial year....with 55 calls specific to self medicating for COVID....
 

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my recommendation is reading this article from may this year, it sums up the situation perfectly, especially the part where WHO ignored its own study

Don't mention Ivermectin; it'll upset the vaccine rollout - BizNews.com

one of my fav parts:


Ivermectin has been used in humans for 35 years and over 4 billion doses have been administered. Merck, the original patent holder, donated 3.7 billion doses to developing countries. 2015 the two individuals who developed Ivermectin were awarded a Nobel Prize for medicine. While known primarily as an anti-parasitic, Ivermectin has powerful anti-viral and anti-inflammatory properties. Its safety is documented at doses twenty times the normal. Only 19 deaths are known and side-affects are generally mild and short. As a comparison, approximately 450 US citizens die from paracetamol every year.

Merck’s patent on Ivermectin expired in 1996 and they produce less than 5% of global supply. In 2020 they were asked to assist in Nigerian and Japanese trials but declined both. In 2021 Merck released a statement claiming that Ivermectin was not an effective treatment against Covid-19 and bizarrely claimed, “A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies” of a drug they donated to be distributed in mass rollouts, by primary care workers, in mass campaigns, to millions in developing countries. The media reported the Merck statement as a blinding truth without looking at the conflict of interests when days later, Merck received $356m from the US government to develop an investigational therapeutic.
 

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captain picard would agree with the article, remember when he knew there was a cover up and something was going on at starfleet regarding the secret development of the cloaking device?

he even decloaked in front of the romulan ship to expose the truth ffs, that man is a hero
 

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btw this is when you know you won, when you produce facts and the opposite side can only produce insults

rodzilla not being able to last more than 3 minutes, what happened to me searching for porn, broken record etc, nobody wants to compete anymore
 

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btw this is when you know you won, when you produce facts and the opposite side can only produce insults

rodzilla not being able to last more than 3 minutes, what happened to me searching for porn, broken record etc, nobody wants to compete anymore
Yeah nah:
 

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india crushed the virus delta variant without the vaccine and the only reporting by the media was to explain how it wasn't ivermectin that did it
Nope:
 
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