CHN and Okunbor de-registered

[The DoggFather]

All these haters going to get their wish when the Rami Malik guy is out of business

 

[Howard Moon]

Probably already received a hand shake from Uncle Nick.

yeah, or the broncos..if any of the protected clubs want him they will get him

 

[DinkumDog]

yeah, or the broncos..if any of the protected clubs want him they will get him

This is assuming Greenberg and/or the NRL in its existing form goes, yes?
Deregistered is deregistered. Not suspended, no time limit was specified. Same as Barba hasn’t been able to re-sign with anyone. And nothing to do with Barba’s ‘worse’ record. It’s de-registered. So regardless of Greenberg’s future, assuming the NRL survives at this point and without additional mitigating circumstances I don’t see it changing.

 

[TwinTurbo]

CHN's redemption process will be what determines if he comes back in 2021 and plays for us. If he says and does all the right things then there is I can't see any reason why he won't be re registered by the NRL for the 2021 Season. His redemption needs to be very carefully managed, owing up to his mistake, apologising for his transgression to everyone, especially his family, his teammates and us fans. He needs to recruit a full service communications agency that specialises in redemption stories and let them manage his comeback, step by step. They need to align with our spin doctors, shyte, do we even have any?

Go Dogs

 

[Nasheed]

No idea who you're talking about, but Rami Malek is amazing in Mr Robot..

Don't know what you're taking about robots I'm talking the Rashays guy

 

[DinkumDog]

CHN's redemption process will be what determines if he comes back in 2021 and plays for us. If he says and does all the right things then there is I can't see any reason why he won't be re registered by the NRL for the 2021 Season. His redemption needs to be very carefully managed, owing up to his mistake, apologising for his transgression to everyone, especially his family, his teammates and us fans. He needs to recruit a full service communications agency that specialises in redemption stories and let them manage his comeback, step by step. They need to align with our spin doctors, shyte, do we even have any?

Go Dogs

But if that were the case - wouldn't the NRL have specified that CHN 'wasn't eligible to play again in 2020' or 'has been deregistered for 2020'?
They said de-registered, full stop. The only other case I can think of as a precedent in recent times is Barba, or perhaps the Bubbler - so maybe CHN can play in England unless otherwise specified (though with the Rona, that might be complicated / less attractive too).

 

[habs]

But if that were the case - wouldn't the NRL have specified that CHN 'wasn't eligible to play again in 2020' or 'has been deregistered for 2020'?
They said de-registered, full stop. The only other case I can think of as a precedent in recent times is Barba, or perhaps the Bubbler - so maybe CHN can play in England unless otherwise specified (though with the Rona, that might be complicated / less attractive too).

They can always apply for re-registration. Probably out of the question for this year, but next year things might be a little bit different and at least these guys can get their careers back on the track with the some interstate clubs.

 

[DinkumDog]

They can always apply for re-registration. Probably out of the question for this year, but next year things might be a little bit different and at least these guys can get their careers back on the track with the some interstate clubs.

Guess we have to wait and see what the fallout for the rest of the year is competition wise, whether Greenberg survives (but really shouldn't be a factor) and how NRL 2021 might look as well.
I'm not saying they don't deserve a shot at redemption, just quoting what has been stated for now - and yes - that may change, though it didn't for Carney and hasn't for Barba - so just considering precedents too.

 

[Precise]

CHN's redemption process will be what determines if he comes back in 2021 and plays for us. If he says and does all the right things then there is I can't see any reason why he won't be re registered by the NRL for the 2021 Season. His redemption needs to be very carefully managed, owing up to his mistake, apologising for his transgression to everyone, especially his family, his teammates and us fans. He needs to recruit a full service communications agency that specialises in redemption stories and let them manage his comeback, step by step. They need to align with our spin doctors, shyte, do we even have any?

Go Dogs

Nah fuck that, he needs to somehow become legible for overseas clubs again then go fucking scorched earth on Todd and the NRL.

Call them out for every double standard, the fact he did nothing wrong. And deadset ask the media why people like Burgess get a letter after sending dick pics to unconsenting participants with the rest of it, bring up women bashers, cop bashers. Fuck em all.

 

[Tassie Devil]

But if that were the case - wouldn't the NRL have specified that CHN 'wasn't eligible to play again in 2020' or 'has been deregistered for 2020'?
They said de-registered, full stop. The only other case I can think of as a precedent in recent times is Barba, or perhaps the Bubbler - so maybe CHN can play in England unless otherwise specified (though with the Rona, that might be complicated / less attractive too).

Does make you wonder what actually to fuck happened here. Clearly both the club and NRL not only morally feel he shouldn't be playing league again, but also legally. It's actually a very very big call so there must be a fair bit we don't know about this story.

Personally I don't care where he goes. Wish him all the best and all of that but he's no longer a Bulldog so ... Ciao

 

[Tassie Devil]

CHN's redemption process will be what determines if he comes back in 2021 and plays for us. If he says and does all the right things then there is I can't see any reason why he won't be re registered by the NRL for the 2021 Season. His redemption needs to be very carefully managed, owing up to his mistake, apologising for his transgression to everyone, especially his family, his teammates and us fans. He needs to recruit a full service communications agency that specialises in redemption stories and let them manage his comeback, step by step. They need to align with our spin doctors, shyte, do we even have any?

Go Dogs

Was expecting some of that redemption to have started already tho. Guess club is gagging them which is smart ... from our sidw

 

[DinkumDog]

Does make you wonder what actually to fuck happened here. Clearly both the club and NRL not only morally feel he shouldn't be playing league again, but also legally. It's actually a very very big call so there must be a fair bit we don't know about this story.

Personally I don't care where he goes. Wish him all the best and all of that but he's no longer a Bulldog so ... Ciao

I think it’s highly probable that there’s information that hasn’t been publicly released - if you refer to the statement from the club, they said: ‘The consequences of this matter have been serious and far reaching‘ and ‘We know and accept that there will be conflicting views about the penalties’.

 

[Hansta]

Corey will win. Ive spoken to a lawyer friend and he has said that its unfair dismissal. When you put his case against the other players allowed to play it looks good for him.

The fact the club has also had another play charged* by police for a offence and was was allowed to play it not good either.


Cockinballs is in trouble. His matter is black and white. I agree he should have been punished but Corey nothing more than a fine and a few games out of action.

yeah def my thinking also. Im a lawyer also, didnt study employment law but it does have merits

 

[Alexander the Great]

Please done start this up again [emoji1787][emoji1787].
I got into heat over this. Staying right away for this one sir.....

yeah def my thinking also. Im a lawyer also, didnt study employment law but it does have merits

 

[habs]

Frankly, I don't see why CHN doesn't sue the NRL and the club.

In the meantime, while he is suing he can apply for re-registration in a bid to mitigate his loss. More than likely the NRL will buckle and permit him to be re-registered and a club will pick him up on the cheap. He will sue the club for the difference, and the club will roll over and settle like it did with Hasler. Unless I am missing something?

 

[Tassie Devil]

Frankly, I don't see why CHN doesn't sue the NRL and the club.

In the meantime, while he is suing he can apply for re-registration in a bid to mitigate his loss. More than likely the NRL will buckle and permit him to be re-registered and a club will pick him up on the cheap. He will sue the club for the difference, and the club will roll over and settle like it did with Hasler. Unless I am missing something?

Possible I guess?

Find in such cases it's usually played through the media tho. That the first step is getting public support. There hasn't been any word from the players in the slightest. No apologies or recognition that thy made a mistake. Nothing.

Tells me that they're either holding their cards close to their chest to launch something big which, I think, is a massive massive gamble not to at least defend themselves.

Or, this case goes a lot deeper than any of us can imagine. Taking everything into account I'd say this is the most likely considering how they lumped CHN with JO immediately, and at no time tried to seperate their cases.

Don't know mate. Reckon his best chance of getting back in the comp is to lay low for a while at least. And stay out of trouble ....

 

[Nasheed]

Frankly, I don't see why CHN doesn't sue the NRL and the club.

In the meantime, while he is suing he can apply for re-registration in a bid to mitigate his loss. More than likely the NRL will buckle and permit him to be re-registered and a club will pick him up on the cheap. He will sue the club for the difference, and the club will roll over and settle like it did with Hasler. Unless I am missing something?

You have to be careful when talking about legal advice with the kennel. You'll get all sorts of fair dinkum cereal box advice.

that said, yes, CHN might get a favourable verdict.

When it comes to legalese, it's not always about who's wrong or right. It actually rarely is. It's about being free of a drawn out legal case.

worst thing about the western legal system is obstruction tactics is too easy. Lawyers love it. They win out, but it's a burden of everyone else.

Muts why RA paid out Folau despite
Their own confidence and why we settled wit Hasler.

CHN gets half his contract and tops it up plus more with a Cronulla (for example) contract and comes out ahead.

then he plays against us, fired up and put Mariner of someone in hospital.

we haven't handled it well. We can't think forward.

 

[Tassie Devil]

You have to be careful when talking about legal advice with the kennel. You'll get all sorts of fair dinkum cereal box advice.

that said, yes, CHN might get a favourable verdict.

When it comes to legalese, it's not always about who's wrong or right. It actually rarely is. It's about being free of a drawn out legal case.

worst thing about the western legal system is obstruction tactics is too easy. Lawyers love it. They win out, but it's a burden of everyone else.

Muts why RA paid out Folau despite
Their own confidence and why we settled wit Hasler.

CHN gets half his contract and tops it up plus more with a Cronulla (for example) contract and comes out ahead.

then he plays against us, fired up and put Mariner of someone in hospital.

we haven't handled it well. We can't think forward.

Haha you're not wrong about some of the fair dinkum advice people give on here think I've given my share of fair dinkum tips with most of it being rubbish!

Agree about it being hard seeing CHN play against us, however we need to see the bigger picture and realise why the club made this decision. It wasn't about the player but the values and culture of the club. No player or person is bigger than the club and all.od that ...

 

[Nasheed]

Haha you're not wrong about some of the fair dinkum advice people give on here think I've given my share of fair dinkum tips with most of it being rubbish!

Agree about it being hard seeing CHN play against us, however we need to see the bigger picture and realise why the club made this decision. It wasn't about the player but the values and culture of the club. No player or person is bigger than the club and all.od that ...

but this is my gripe with that logic, who does that win over exactly?
When you appease the do gooder crowd, you don't win over supporters and win favours. You don't get anything + EV.
You do however get your own players and fans (family) annoyed.

it's your own fans you need to satisfy. They are the ones you stand to lose.
As you saw, the sponsor went regardless.

this same reason, I don't get why RA was so quick to appease the LGBT crowd in the Israel saga.

I'm sure there are some, but I have never got the feeling that gay people are passionate rugby fans. I DO get the feeling that Christian's and poly islanders are.
So who wins when you come down hard on Izzy?
The players and Christians who support are unhappy and don't buy tickets
The team results likely suffer. Removing your best players.
The gays? They nod their head, Thankyou for your support then go off back to their fashion, music and dancing interests and forget all about it.

huge price to get their token support.

 

[Tassie Devil]

but this is my gripe with that logic, who does that win over exactly?
When you appease the do gooder crowd, you don't win over supporters and win favours. You don't get anything + EV.
You do however get your own players and fans (family) annoyed.

it's your own fans you need to satisfy. They are the ones you stand to lose.
As you saw, the sponsor went regardless.

this same reason, I don't get why RA was so quick to appease the LGBT crowd in the Israel saga.

I'm sure there are some, but I have never got the feeling that gay people are passionate rugby fans. I DO get the feeling that Christian's and poly islanders are.
So who wins when you come down hard on Izzy?
The players and Christians who support are unhappy and don't buy tickets
The team results likely suffer. Removing your best players.
The gays? They nod their head, Thankyou for your support then go off back to their fashion, music and dancing interests and forget all about it.

huge price to get their token support.

Well ... this is perhaps where you're making a mistake like it seems many on here.

This whole situation has nothing to do with appeasing the 'do gooder crowd' but rather sticking to the values the club has been presenting to everyone. The day the club starts dancing to the tune the public sets then we're in even bigger trouble. Thank God they don't listen to me, especially you, nor anyone on here when making major decisions!