News ‘Put us on the map’: Bulldogs’ groundbreaking jersey idea … and why it may face roadblocks

Bulldog1966 said:
Jammer and that Charlie White were talking about this too in the last day or two, seems to be a lot of outside support who exactly is up in arms about it the NRL?

Not sure about players having a unique number which was discussed and which they carry that number with them like in the cricket for example, I'd rather see it stick to the 1-17 as per playing position each week.
E.g Sexton is the team 7 if he is out injured and Tia comes in he is no.7
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Agreed. World cup was a disaster for this. I know its a different pool of players so it was always going be numbers 17+ will get run on spots. Youd also have to name and stick with a 17 before Round 1 which will become messy for players, negotiations, hierarchy etc.
 
As others have mentioned in Super League they did it in 1997. They do it every year for Origins and Tests. I'd like to see it in the NRL too. I think the other 28 sponsors on the jersey will be enough without the extra one where the surname would be.
 
I agree that our eyes would naturally read the name on the back, by human nature. Those new to the sport especially.

In effect bringing more attention to whatever sponsorship is on the back, if any.

It makes sense then, if even though it's a smaller sponsor than existing back sponsors, it potentially gives more value to the back sponsor than the ones we see today. As the back real estate has 'importance' like the front does with attributing to the face of player. The back name is 'interesting' to the viewer as they're collecting information and bound to skim read the sponsor multiple times during a match, more than the existing amount of times a viewer would skim read the sponsor.
 
boggie23 said:
Why not be the only team if they want to? It’s bad enough all the websites are identical.

Smart move to do it for the USA market. Even if 1% of the crowd is locals they’ll be able to spot the names of the players. Maybe Burton gets a mega deal for NFL from it :p
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What's the bet that Burton puts up a few of his bombs in front of the Americans to get their attention?
 
Freakzilla said:
I prefer players having the same number all season with their names on the back.
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Keeping the player numbers the same for the year was done historically in the NRL (like AFL) up until sometime in the 50s. It was brought back in Super League, but ended when they comps came back together.

I reckon have numbers on the sleeves as well like some teams have done in the past & sell programs at games like they used to. Sponsorship money is too important, especially for some of the financially battling teams, for the name to take over. Money usually wins these battles. I can understand doing this for the American games though.
 
Bulldog1966 said:
Jammer and that Charlie White were talking about this too in the last day or two, seems to be a lot of outside support who exactly is up in arms about it the NRL?

Not sure about players having a unique number which was discussed and which they carry that number with them like in the cricket for example, I'd rather see it stick to the 1-17 as per playing position each week.
E.g Sexton is the team 7 if he is out injured and Tia comes in he is no.7
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I like the 1-17 because it can help people learn the game with positioning. I think a replacement player like in the example you gave should have a different number, so it can be seen that, say, Sexton missed the game & Tia played. People who aren't so familiar with the game might think that Sexton had a great game whereas it was really Tia.

I am doing some rugby league research & quite often a player would pull out before a game another player would come into the team & wear the same jersey number. Unless you know what players look like, it can be difficult to find out who actually played. Fortunately, these days we have RL project to help us. The NRL's website is not as accurate as you would hope for these types of things. Also, most things are put up digitally now & get taken down or deleted soon after, so looking at this in the future causes problems.
 
chisdog said:
What's the bet that Burton puts up a few of his bombs in front of the Americans to get their attention?
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Yeh guaranteed. The Burton bomb has been missing for 17 years. But I’m sure all his kicks will be spiral bombs that day :p haha.
 
chisdog said:
I like the 1-17 because it can help people learn the game with positioning. I think a replacement player like in the example you gave should have a different number, so it can be seen that, say, Sexton missed the game & Tia played. People who aren't so familiar with the game might think that Sexton had a great game whereas it was really Tia.

I am doing some rugby league research & quite often a player would pull out before a game another player would come into the team & wear the same jersey number. Unless you know what players look like, it can be difficult to find out who actually played. Fortunately, these days we have RL project to help us. The NRL's website is not as accurate as you would hope for these types of things. Also, most things are put up digitally now & get taken down or deleted soon after, so looking at this in the future causes problems.
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I'm suggesting the name on that jersey interchanges so if Tia plays 7 replacing an injured Sexton his name goes on the jersey for that game/period?
 
Bulldog1966 said:
I'm suggesting the name on that jersey interchanges so if Tia plays 7 replacing an injured Sexton his name goes on the jersey for that game/period?
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That may prove difficult sometimes. Say Sexton gets injured or falls ill an hour before the game. Do you have a way to print this on the jersey at the last minute? Especially on away games this could be hard.
 
chisdog said:
That may prove difficult sometimes. Say Sexton gets injured or falls ill an hour before the game. Do you have a way to print this on the jersey at the last minute? Especially on away games this could be hard.
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Yea very late injury it's an issue but that's very rare really.
What's your solution when the normal 7 or whoever misses? Just have the replacement off the bench wear his number 14 thru to say 19 for us?
I'm ok in that instance but if known in a timely manner keep the 1-17, the new bloke in that position gets the relevant number yes?
 
Cannot believe as club needs approval from the NRL for this.

Fascist dogs
 
chisdog said:
Do you have a way to print this on the jersey at the last minute?
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Bulldog1966 said:
Yea very late injury it's an issue but that's very rare really.
What's your solution when the normal 7 or whoever misses? Just have the replacement off the bench wear his number 14 thru to say 19 for us?
I'm ok in that instance but if known in a timely manner keep the 1-17, the new bloke in that position gets the relevant number yes?
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I've always wanted to know about the gameday jersey preparations, I saw something about it with the Roosters USA trip on youtube.

How hard and expensive is this additional process? I'm sure it's not too much, I mean I got my first jersey decades ago with a player name and number added on. I think the NRL and teams can easily get (back) into this, comp wide.

Safe measure for last minute: Away team jersey staff uses the dedicated pressing machine from the home teams jersey staff - part of the reason it makes sense NRL should make it a requirement throughout. (I guess it's also obviously to do with money, no club wants to be disadvantaged then retreats back to going full back jersey sponsorship, so it's better and easier to get the NRL make it a more "even playing field" and get everyone doing it).

I just think it adds to the professionalism, prestige, and personalities of the sport and should have been in place from the moment NRL wanted to look "professional". It's not necessarily going to sell more jerseys but at least it helps first time and casual viewers.
 
Good on the Bulldogs and staff like Warburton trying to be proactive and trying to do the best for the club
 
IMO this can only work if players get a squad number (same as the super league in 1997)

the purpose of marketing the players doesn’t work when their number changes week to week. As a supporter If you buy a 13 Jersey with Mann on the back and Curran gets picked at lock this week the jersey your wearing isn’t valid.

I don’t see how the number the players back needs to be 1-17 to understand the position they play. Most sports around the world have squad player numbers
 
Bulldog1966 said:
Jammer and that Charlie White were talking about this too in the last day or two, seems to be a lot of outside support who exactly is up in arms about it the NRL?

Not sure about players having a unique number which was discussed and which they carry that number with them like in the cricket for example, I'd rather see it stick to the 1-17 as per playing position each week.
E.g Sexton is the team 7 if he is out injured and Tia comes in he is no.7
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i can’t stand charlie white, he’s a major dickhead and ruins the podcast
 
ASSASSIN said:
SEN was saying their jersey sales increased 400% when Kelce started dating Swift. It increased 400% because it was little girls buying Kelce jerseys.
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Taylor Swift is a marketing genius.
She dates an NFL player, which attracts more kids to the sport, which results in more concussions, which in turn creates more Taylor Swift fans :-).
 
Philmus said:
i can’t stand charlie white, he’s a major dickhead and ruins the podcast
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Yes i must say when I was typing his name I was thinking he is a bit of a pretty boy/smartarse haha
Cheese is ok though himself and Jammer seem to gel.
 
CMP said:
IMO this can only work if players get a squad number (same as the super league in 1997)

the purpose of marketing the players doesn’t work when their number changes week to week. As a supporter If you buy a 13 Jersey with Mann on the back and Curran gets picked at lock this week the jersey your wearing isn’t valid.

I don’t see how the number the players back needs to be 1-17 to understand the position they play. Most sports around the world have squad player numbers
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I think you are looking at it too short term. For example my son has a Terry Lamb 1995 Jersey, is that not valid? My favourite jersey is a 1967, which I occasionally wear to games, it was worn in the Grand Final, I had the players name added between his autograph and number. Why isn't that valid? A good friend of mine has the 3 x Mortimer bros jerseys, his father is a life member of the Football Club awarded due to his service at that time. How great would it be if the jerseys had their names on them.

My boss has a 1971 Ron Coote Souffs jersey, which he hid away until the 90's for obvious reasons. Currently it hangs in his office in a frame with a plaque that says whose jersey it is. It would be much better, more meaningful and authentic if it had his name actually on the jersey itself.

It's not like all the replica jerseys will be forced to have names on them, we could still buy a generic one with no name and no number or just with a number. Plenty buy them with their own name on there now, are they valid?.


Team Work
 
Hound Dog said:
Good on the Bulldogs and staff like Warburton trying to be proactive and trying to do the best for the club
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I agree in that sense but again not sure how much extra revenue would really be had. But as the above poster said, with some fans complaining about added costs of getting a name on it, they can sell replica ones without if don't want to spend that extra money.

With what I have read that the whole league has to approve it before the NRL gives it the green light, all of this might be moot as I don't see every club doing so.

Sure they will spout the loss of revenue from the back sponsor as their main reason for doing so.

Jmo.
 
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