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[bradyk]

To be honest, as much as I like winning comps it would be shit to be labelled cheats and feeling as though your trophies are a bit tainted in the back of your mind

Labelled cheats by delusional and jealous people who are far out of touch.

 

[Dogtime]

Can Foran just retire already, quite evident we're not gonna keep him beyond this season.... doubt any club would pick him up.

Weather or not we offer Foran a contract extension for circa $550k a season, depends on how our halves go for the first half of 2020. Foran is anticipated to make a return by round 14...
He is very well respected among the boys and if we are struggling to straighten up the attack then theres every chance he will be offered an extension going forward.
If we are still in the hunt for a finals spot by round 14, a fit Foran is the type of guy that can help make that happen. Personally I hope Lewis, Cogger and Wakeham are killing it and we are happy moving forward with them and let Foran go to Manly who would unquestionably be interested to have him back on reduced coin.

 

[Natboy]

Labelled cheats by delusional and jealous people who are far out of touch.

You’ve said yourself you have only followed the game for 5 years.
You have no idea what’s gone on for years and should watch your mouth child. You want to talk delusional? I’ve forgotten more than you know about the game and I’m out of touch?

Look at the salary cap, look at the NRL refusing to register contracts below market value, look at the roosters very small TPAs, look at their squad, ex players openly talking about paper bags and get your head out of the sand or even better go support the roosters so we don’t have to put up with your monotonous crap

 

[TwinTurbo]

The roosters won two comps by paying good players what they deserve in key positions. On four players alone, Tedesco, Mitchell, Keary and Cronk, nearly a quarter of their salary cap right here but every player named here was and still will win you comps.

If we don't do likewise with the RIGHT players we will continue to fall behind. So Wighton and Keary would be worth spending top dollar to get them.

The Salary Cap is $9.6m, a quarter of that is $2.4m, do you really think Tedesco, Mitchell, Keary and Cronk were on average $2.4m / 4 = $600k each? And you said “nearly a quarter” so your saying less than $600k each?

I honestly don’t believe we could do “likewise”, because it would require copying something that wasn’t true.

Go Dogs

 

[Chris Harding]

If we have a million dollars available when Foran's contract expires, and we desperately need a gun half, why spend that money on a winger?

 

[wendog33]

If we have a million dollars available when Foran's contract expires, and we desperately need a gun half, why spend that money on a winger?

We have wingers.

Be great to have a marque back (who can stay on the field) but it's hard to justify spending heaps when we need to strengthen other positions.

Not worried if we don't get him.

And won't put him on the 20 List

 

[wendog33]

To be honest, as much as I like winning comps it would be shit to be labelled cheats and feeling as though your trophies are a bit tainted in the back of your mind

To be honest, it wouldn't worry me in the slightest.

I'd only be delirilously happy and think... sucked in NRL, Murdick, and all other cheaters for the past how many years ...we got the lollies too woooohoo.

 

[KLil]

If we have a million dollars available when Foran's contract expires, and we desperately need a gun half, why spend that money on a winger?

There is 4-5 young halves at the club. Surely 2 of them will be sufficient and if that's the case we save a shitload of cap space considering they won't be million dollars babies..

I'm hoping all of them kill it and we end up with something like this.

1. Averillo
6. Wakeham
7. Lewis
9. Coggar + 10kg

14. Jmk

17. Bailey Ondo.

It will take a couple of years to take shape but if it works out we are laughing because nobody there will command more than 700k a season.

 

[Spoonman84]

There is 4-5 young halves at the club. Surely 2 of them will be sufficient and if that's the case we save a shitload of cap space considering they won't be million dollars babies..

I'm hoping all of them kill it and we end up with something like this.

1. Averillo
6. Wakeham
7. Lewis
9. Coggar + 10kg

14. Jmk

17. Bailey Ondo.

It will take a couple of years to take shape but if it works out we are laughing because nobody there will command more than 700k a season.

Soooooo much has to fall into place for that happen.

Wakeham at 7 and Averillo at 6 is our best hope of producing a halves combo in house.

 

[Natboy]

To be honest, it wouldn't worry me in the slightest.

I'd only be delirilously happy and think... sucked in NRL, Murdick, and all other cheaters for the past how many years ...we got the lollies too woooohoo.

Everyone has different values I guess

 

[liljohny]

You’ve said yourself you have only followed the game for 5 years.
You have no idea what’s gone on for years and should watch your mouth child. You want to talk delusional? I’ve forgotten more than you know about the game and I’m out of touch?

Look at the salary cap, look at the NRL refusing to register contracts below market value, look at the roosters very small TPAs, look at their squad, ex players openly talking about paper bags and get your head out of the sand or even better go support the roosters so we don’t have to put up with your monotonous crap

Don't waste your energy on this flamingo!

 

[wendog33]

Everyone has different values I guess

Bulldogs winning the comp: Top Value.

 

[Howard Moon]

If we have a million dollars available when Foran's contract expires, and we desperately need a gun half, why spend that money on a winger?

also might need to rethink hooker if none of our guys work out... everything starts with the 9

 

[KLil]

Soooooo much has to fall into place for that happen.

Wakeham at 7 and Averillo at 6 is our best hope of producing a halves combo in house.

So much! Lol

You know averillo more than me.. U reckon he could become an FB?

 

[Spoonman84]

So much! Lol

You know averillo more than me.. U reckon he could become an FB?

Averillo could play any position in the backs but he's probably best suited to the halves.

If we had a combo of Wakeham and Averillo I think there is enough creativity between them to keep DWZ at fulback.

That's making a big assumption that Wakeham and Averillo continue to develop like they are.

 

[Novdoggie]

The Salary Cap is $9.6m, a quarter of that is $2.4m, do you really think Tedesco, Mitchell, Keary and Cronk were on average $2.4m / 4 = $600k each? And you said “nearly a quarter” so your saying less than $600k each?

I honestly don’t believe we could do “likewise”, because it would require copying something that wasn’t true.

Go Dogs

Just because a player is on $1m does not mean it is all salary cap money, it is also made up of TPA's. Mitchell was lucky to be on $600k. For all we know $400k salary cap and $200k TPA's. Between these players there could be approx $1m in TPA's which is what I base my point on how Roosters do it better than other clubs and that could be because they attract more major sponsors through dealings with Nick, just like Russel. Therefore, attracting big name players to the Roosters isn't a problem because they can pay them (combined salary cap and TPA's) more than other clubs can.

 

[DinkumDog]

Just because a player is on $1m does not mean it is all salary cap money, it is also made up of TPA's. Mitchell was lucky to be on $600k. For all we know $400k salary cap and $200k TPA's. Between these players there could be approx $1m in TPA's which is what I base my point on how Roosters do it better than other clubs and that could be because they attract more major sponsors through dealings with Nick, just like Russel. Therefore, attracting big name players to the Roosters isn't a problem because they can pay them (combined salary cap and TPA's) more than other clubs can.

BUT... the Chook$ actually had one of the LOWEST TPA's in the NRL (declared at least).
So I take your point - if it was legit I think more people would cop it on the chin.
But how do they keep getting the best players, remain cap compliant and have one of the lowest TPA totals?
That's where it doesn't pass the smell test.
Car allowance isn't enough ($20k x 5 total $100k). I'll bet Cooper Cronk wasn't driving a Hyundai Excel.
Payments that are exempt from the cap include tertiary education fees - which must be applied for so there's some measurement I guess - but it still seems murky.
I don't like to be suspicious but we'd all like to know how this adds up...

 

[TwinTurbo]

The Salary Cap is $9.6m, a quarter of that is $2.4m, do you really think Tedesco, Mitchell, Keary and Cronk were on average $2.4m / 4 = $600k each? And you said “nearly a quarter” so your saying less than $600k each?
I honestly don’t believe we could do “likewise”, because it would require copying something that wasn’t true.

Just because a player is on $1m does not mean it is all salary cap money, it is also made up of TPA's. Mitchell was lucky to be on $600k. For all we know $400k salary cap and $200k TPA's. Between these players there could be approx $1m in TPA's which is what I base my point on how Roosters do it better than other clubs and that could be because they attract more major sponsors through dealings with Nick, just like Russel. Therefore, attracting big name players to the Roosters isn't a problem because they can pay them (combined salary cap and TPA's) more than other clubs can.

Keep digging ................. you will get to the bottom of that hole soon ..................

Source https://www.sportingnews.com/au/lea...-roosters-rank-11th/nealp5ielkv81ayux0r6snvjn

2019 arm’s length agreements per NRL club:
Sydney Roosters $68,966

Not sure how those 4 players can be paid enough in TPA's to make up the difference you claim. That's the NRL audited TPA's, of course there could be "brown paper bag" payments not revealed. But players Tax Returns are able to be requested by the NRL Cap Auditor as well as Bank Statements and other financial records. So the risk is high and tax fraud is a gaolable offence, players are taking a big personal risk to protect their club. Plus "brown paper bag" payments aren't ever likely to be spoken about and I doubt anyone would believe that Tedesco is on $600k to start with, they (we) would be asking questions if that were the case and the TPA's plainly aren't going to cover it. Hiding the large amounts (that we are talking about here) in "brown paper bag" payments is extremely risking and very difficult to hide. Small amounts they might be able to hide but not enough to make up for the Cap shortfall you claim.

Go Dogs

 

[Vlasnik]

I'll just leave this here, if only for a shit stir and some colour

NRL Match Officials Comfortably Fit Under The Salary Sombrero

WENDELL HUSSEY | Cadet |CONTACT

In breaking news out of the harbourside city of Sydney, it seems as though the Roosters may finally have come undone.

Less than 24 hours since there historic back to back premiership win over the Canberra Raiders last night, the club has been accused of breaching the salary cap.

However, while many may have expected the breach to come in regards to the fact they manged to keep Cronk, Keary, Latrell, Tedesco, Manu, Tupou, Morris, Crichton, Cordner, JWH, Sio Taukeiaho and more into the cap, the alleged breach is reportedly in regards to more relatively unknown players.

Those players where the refereeing officials during last night’s Grand Final victory.

Salary Cap auditors were first alerted to the breaches last night when the Roosters trainer potentially stopped a runaway try to Elliot Whitehead before gifting the Roosters the put in at the scrum.

The second alert occurred a short time after when the referees called 6 again, before calling for a changeover after Canberra half Jack Wighton elected to run the ball rather than kick it – assuming he had 6 more tackles up his sleeve.

The NRL and the Sydney Roosters are yet to officially comment on the allegations.

More to come.

https://www.betootaadvocate.com/spo...ls-comfortably-fit-under-the-salary-sombrero/

 

[TwinTurbo]

BUT... the Chook$ actually had one of the LOWEST TPA's in the NRL (declared at least).
So I take your point - if it was legit I think more people would cop it on the chin.
But how do they keep getting the best players, remain cap compliant and have one of the lowest TPA totals?
That's where it doesn't pass the smell test.
Car allowance isn't enough ($20k x 5 total $100k). I'll bet Cooper Cronk wasn't driving a Hyundai Excel.
Payments that are exempt from the cap include tertiary education fees - which must be applied for so there's some measurement I guess - but it still seems murky.
I don't like to be suspicious but we'd all like to know how this adds up...

Cronk was reportedly on a degree scholarship to Harvard, all expenses paid. I think that's just taking the piss out of the players education exemption from the cap. I'm sure the NRL were thinking more in line with TAFE or local Uni fees being exempt, but a Harvard degree with all expenses paid is one hell of a lot of money. One year fees are close to $US70k, for 4 years $US280k, that's $A420k plus expenses, flights. accommodation, meals etc.

Go Dogs