Your reaction to JR still playing for the Bulldogs in 2017

[immortalbulldog]

JR, like many in our squad, is currently a victim of our coaching and structure. He is an instinctive ball runner who is best suited to getting the ball out of dummy half or at first receiver when he sees that their defensive line is on the back foot. He isn't allowed to play like that. He gets the ball of a lollipop pass from one of our front rowers and is left with no time to do anything other than take on the defender who's already up in his face and hope they make a defensive error, pass it to a well marked player or drift across field and hope that the player marking him will drift enough to open up a gap for an inside ball to jackson. Pretty lame set of options he is left with.
His brain explosions are another issue that he needs to be accountable for and the only reason I have any sort of issue with him.

 

[Mr Invisible]

JR, like many in our squad, is currently a victim of our coaching and structure. He is an instinctive ball runner who is best suited to getting the ball out of dummy half or at first receiver when he sees that their defensive line is on the back foot. He isn't allowed to play like that. He gets the ball of a lollipop pass from one of our front rowers and is left with no time to do anything other than take on the defender who's already up in his face and hope they make a defensive error, pass it to a well marked player or drift across field and hope that the player marking him will drift enough to open up a gap for an inside ball to jackson. Pretty lame set of options he is left with.
His brain explosions are another issue that he needs to be accountable for and the only reason I have any sort of issue with him.

Completely agree.. if he calls for the ball and Lichaa goes to Tolman instead... or passes it at Reynolds head... is it any wonder players blow up at him.

I see Reynolds like a Shaun Johnson style player, just without the organisational skills. Reynolds is excellent at playing what is in front of him... but he needs good ball to do that.

The biggest problem of 2016, was that on field nobody could organise a root in a brothel. Was complete unorganised chaos.

If Moses can pull his finger out and start talking and leading the team around this season, anything is possible.

 

[_G-Dog_]

Can think of several games we won or got back in the game on the back of an individual effort by Reynolds..
Vs Manly won it. Vs Roosters changed the momentum b4 halftime. Vs Souths last game brang us back in.

Probably other games also

He did more than Mbye in 2016

 

[CrittaMagic69]

Can think of several games we won or got back in the game on the back of an individual effort by Reynolds..
Vs Manly won it. Vs Roosters changed the momentum b4 halftime. Vs Souths last game brang us back in.

Probably other games also

He did more than Mbye in 2016

Yh he totally scored more points, tries, created more tries and created more try scoring chances than Moses..ohh wait that never happened.

 

[Chicharito]

*yawn*

 

[CrittaMagic69]

JR, like many in our squad, is currently a victim of our coaching and structure. He is an instinctive ball runner who is best suited to getting the ball out of dummy half or at first receiver when he sees that their defensive line is on the back foot. He isn't allowed to play like that. He gets the ball of a lollipop pass from one of our front rowers and is left with no time to do anything other than take on the defender who's already up in his face and hope they make a defensive error, pass it to a well marked player or drift across field and hope that the player marking him will drift enough to open up a gap for an inside ball to jackson. Pretty lame set of options he is left with.
His brain explosions are another issue that he needs to be accountable for and the only reason I have any sort of issue with him.

Reynolds at first receiver is garbage. His passing game is terrible and he has always had the ability to run other players out of space. How many times have we seen him throw it at Perretts ankles or forward straight over the sideline. But still, a half with some pace and footwork at first receiver will always be better than a slow forward.

Like you said, he is at his best when he sees the defence on the backfoot as that is when he actually plays direct and can bounce off defenders and use short balls. If he could actually pass a ball, then offensively he could be one of the better hookers in the game.

No doubt our structures don't get the best out of him anymore, but we have all seen the best of him and his best is not good enough.

 

[Mr Invisible]

Yh he totally scored more points, tries, created more tries and created more try scoring chances than Moses..ohh wait that never happened.

Josh Reynolds: More Runs, run metres, line breaks, hitups, offloads.

So hard to say because how many of those extra offloads / line breaks created scoring opportunities.

 

[iDoggiesFan]

Completely agree.. if he calls for the ball and Lichaa goes to Tolman instead... or passes it at Reynolds head... is it any wonder players blow up at him.

I see Reynolds like a Shaun Johnson style player, just without the organisational skills. Reynolds is excellent at playing what is in front of him... but he needs good ball to do that.

The biggest problem of 2016, was that on field nobody could organise a root in a brothel. Was complete unorganised chaos.

If Moses can pull his finger out and start talking and leading the team around this season, anything is possible.

Moses needs to pull his finger out...? Why don't we look to Reynolds, who's been in first grade for 6+ years to show a bit of leadership? Moses isn't a 7 and nor is Reynolds but wouldn't you play the more experienced of the 2 in that position?

Throw Reynolds the 7 so come 2018 its just a straight swap with a free agent.

 

[CrittaMagic69]

Josh Reynolds: More Runs, run metres, line breaks, hitups, offloads.

So hard to say because how many of those extra offloads / line breaks created scoring opportunities.

Well it isn't hard to say, watching the games told me that Moses created and executed chances for us more often and better than Josh did. Checking the stats also tells a similar story. The biggest stat being 15 line break assits to Reynolds' 7.

Moses also provided much cleaner ball for his outside men to give them more of a chance with the ball in hand while having to put up with Williams and a make shift Eastwood as his edge forward. Josh had Jackson.

No doubt Josh came up with bigger plays for us at the backend of games, and that's off the back of him being one of the few players in the NRL that runs around at 100% all game long. He just runs and runs all game to the point where no around him knows what the fuck he is doing...some people just choose to view this as being creative or trying harder than everyone else.

 

[CrittaMagic69]

Moses needs to pull his finger out...? Why don't we look to Reynolds, who's been in first grade for 6+ years to show a bit of leadership? Moses isn't a 7 and nor is Reynolds but wouldn't you play the more experienced of the 2 in that position?

Throw Reynolds the 7 so come 2018 its just a straight swap with a free agent.

Without a doubt Josh should of wore the 7. For our structures it wouldn't of made a difference as they both play the same stupid role that Des has given them. But in terms of pressure, it is always on the bloke in the 7 as many fans chose to the view the 7 as a traditional halfback rather than the actual role that's been given to him.

 

[Mr Invisible]

Reynolds has always been a running half, not an organisational one.

Honestly both our entire spine needs to be held accountable, because without them we are headless.

Reynolds - Either needs to step up, or learn to pass.
Mbye - Needs to learn how to direct our tropps around the park.
BOTH - need to learn how to kick.

Lichaa - needs to learn to read the game and pass.
Hoppa - needs to play Sundays.
BMoz - needs to stop being injured.

Reynolds will take initiative where nobody else does, but players need to react to that instead of watching him try and win a game himself.

Moses we all know has a killer pass (killed Freddys pass off), and is superbly accurate, but goes missing when the chips are down and we need "something".

This is all why our forwards get involved, because our halves won't take control.

 

[CaptainJackson]

Reynolds has always been a running half, not an organisational one.

Honestly both our entire spine needs to be held accountable, because without them we are headless.

Reynolds - Either needs to step up, or learn to pass.
Mbye - Needs to learn how to direct our tropps around the park.
BOTH - need to learn how to kick.

Lichaa - needs to learn to read the game and pass.
Hoppa - needs to play Sundays.
BMoz - needs to stop being injured.

Reynolds will take initiative where nobody else does, but players need to react to that instead of watching him try and win a game himself.

Moses we all know has a killer pass (killed Freddys pass off), and is superbly accurate, but goes missing when the chips are down and we need "something".

This is all why our forwards get involved, because our halves won't take control.

Tolman - needs to leave the club

 

[yearofthedog]

He had a fantastic game that night,
I haven't seen that reaction to a player at belmore for a long time.
It reminded me of the Geoff (Robbo) Robinson days.
Back in the 1980's

Did you see his interview on fox about that game ? Gave me goosebumps lol

 

[yearofthedog]

Well it isn't hard to say, watching the games told me that Moses created and executed chances for us more often and better than Josh did. Checking the stats also tells a similar story. The biggest stat being 15 line break assits to Reynolds' 7.

Moses also provided much cleaner ball for his outside men to give them more of a chance with the ball in hand while having to put up with Williams and a make shift Eastwood as his edge forward. Josh had Jackson.

No doubt Josh came up with bigger plays for us at the backend of games, and that's off the back of him being one of the few players in the NRL that runs around at 100% all game long. He just runs and runs all game to the point where no around him knows what the fuck he is doing...some people just choose to view this as being creative or trying harder than everyone else.

And some people that actually play (played) footy know what kind of an effect, a player like Josh, brings to the team. Putting in as you said, 100% all game is only inspirational for the rest of the team.
Compared to not actually knowing what its like playing and just using personal grudges....

 

[CrittaMagic69]

Reynolds has always been a running half, not an organisational one.

Honestly both our entire spine needs to be held accountable, because without them we are headless.

Reynolds - Either needs to step up, or learn to pass.
Mbye - Needs to learn how to direct our tropps around the park.
BOTH - need to learn how to kick.

Lichaa - needs to learn to read the game and pass.
Hoppa - needs to play Sundays.
BMoz - needs to stop being injured.

Reynolds will take initiative where nobody else does, but players need to react to that instead of watching him try and win a game himself.

Moses we all know has a killer pass (killed Freddys pass off), and is superbly accurate, but goes missing when the chips are down and we need "something".

This is all why our forwards get involved, because our halves won't take control.

No, our coach needs to be held accountable. It is blatantly obvious that our structures are at fault yet you choose to ignore this.

And here you are again with "our forwards do this because our halves won't" rubbish. Our forwards and halves do what they do because THAT IS WHAT THEY DO AT TRAINING. Our halves don't take control because once again, THAT IS WHAT THEY DO AT TRAINING.

Our style of play is far more unique than the 15 other teams in the comp, so you can't view our players role in a tradional sense. Ennis has even made comments about our playing style on NRL 360. He said our halves play behind our forwards rather than infornt of them like the other sides.

So please tell me how you think it is possible for our halves to organise and control our team in a traditional sense? Or do you think everyone just does the complete opposite on gameday?

 

[khan]

fail- mbye has stated he runs the team as the number 7 should and will always take control. he didnt do that

Mbye is a 6.

 

[Mr Invisible]

No, our coach needs to be held accountable. It is blatantly obvious that our structures are at fault yet you choose to ignore this.

And here you are again with "our forwards do this because our halves won't" rubbish. Our forwards and halves do what they do because THAT IS WHAT THEY DO AT TRAINING. Our halves don't take control because once again, THAT IS WHAT THEY DO AT TRAINING.

Our style of play is far more unique than the 15 other teams in the comp, so you can't view our players role in a tradional sense. Ennis has even made comments about our playing style on NRL 360. He said our halves play behind our forwards rather than infornt of them like the other sides.

So please tell me how you think it is possible for our halves to organise and control our team in a traditional sense? Or do you think everyone just does the complete opposite on gameday?

When things aren't working for you on field, you need a player that can stand up and turn things around.

Des can coach whatever structures he likes.. but he can't exactly put on a pair of boots and go out there and tell them / show them what they are doing wrong.

Players like Thurston are able to control a side ... and order players around the ground.. this is what most others sides have, and what we lack.... DIRECTION!

The players have come out in the media and admitted they let the coach and fans down last year.

Whilst that doesn't absolve Des of criticism, he's not the sort of coach to sit back and watch his career die.

Heck.... Manly were going gangbusters with him.. and he comes over here, gets us into the finals each year, had us up with top attacking sides up till Rd 19 last year, and people still aren't happy.

So ... if he left a very successful Manly with his style of coaching and structures, came over here and it DIDN'T work .... then it's not the coach that is the issue is it? if it was Manly would have been choking in recent years before he left.

 

[bowleggedwog]

1 of only 3 players that stood up last year. He has heart. Yes more heart than brains but cant deny he will bleed for the jersey. Jackson and klemmer are the only other 2 who can hold their heads hight. Graham and the rest dont even come close.

 

[CrittaMagic69]

And some people that actually play (played) footy know what kind of an effect, a player like Josh, brings to the team. Putting in as you said, 100% all game is only inspirational for the rest of the team.
Compared to not actually knowing what its like playing and just using personal grudges....

I have played many sports at a competitive level and been coached by Australian internationals/coaches in football. While going to school i was lucky enough to have the chance to experience what it is like at an NRL club. I was given the chance to attend NRL sessions and learn what the staff and players get upto for about a whole NRL season.

But no, i never grew up playing footy. But if you lot want to start dropping the "i played footy so i know more than you" garbage, then maybe i should bring up my experience and claim that it trumps the park footy that you bums played.

 

[CroydonDog]

Mbye is a 6.

He's not that ugly. I'd give him 6.5...