Which halfback can win us a comp?

Moey91 said:
We went to the gf with keating and hodkinson in 2012 and 2014. Give sexton an offseason with burto
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That is because we had prime Barba and a great forward pack in 2012. The great forward pack got us to the GF in 2014 despite losing Barba and Tolman on the 4th.
 
Bulldogsteve said:
Would not make it in today game
Passenger
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Obviously he wouldn't. He's been retired for 9 years and his knees were screwed before he retired. He was having cartilage replacement surgery four years before he retired. But he made it a number of years with screwed knees before retiring. He iced a lot of games for us just by making the right choices. Could nail a field goal under pressure

Tl:Dr
He couldn't make it today as he was medically retired 9 years ago.
 
I would not be offering Sexton anything yet, and definitely not 700k or more, he had a decent year but it was still hot and cold, I'd give him an extra 100k or so next year in good faith and tell him to go out next year and earn a top end contract.
If that doesn't work and he wants to sign elsewhere for big money a year in advance then so be it but I'm not risking a big contract for 2-3 more years after 2025 on a guy like Sexton who could very easily not deliver for us next year and leave us stuck paying another big contract for several years to play in nsw cup.
 
Moey91 said:
I still dont think Hunt is the answer. I know these words are going to hunt me, but Id prefer DCE over Hunt.

Look at the difference between the 2. I dont see how Hunt has improved Flopagan at all they dont work together as a team

Brooks made it to his first final under the wing of DCE. We need someone with the mindset of DCE if we were to be contenders
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The fact that there are few top halves means that Hunt will command big dollars. We'd be better to spend that money on a few big units in the forwards, and allow Sexton to develop.

Hunt would be a good halves coach for our younger players after he hangs up his boots.
 
Chris Harding said:
The fact that there are few top halves means that Hunt will command big dollars. We'd be better to spend that money on a few big units in the forwards, and allow Sexton to develop.

Hunt would be a good halves coach for our younger players after he hangs up his boots.
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There are not many choices with choosing a half back. so if it's not Sexton then who do we sign? Hunt is a risk at his age. But like I have said previously we are placing our faith in Woods and so that means whoever we sign will know they are just there temporarily until Woods is ready. Why would you bother signing with the dogs when u know you are not in the clubs long term plans?
 
piggy said:
There are not many choices with choosing a half back. so if it's not Sexton then who do we sign? Hunt is a risk at his age. But like I have said previously we are placing our faith in Woods and so that means whoever we sign will know they are just there temporarily until Woods is ready. Why would you bother signing with the dogs when u know you are not in the clubs long term plans?
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I think if Hutchinson can work on his speed and dig in a bit more he is good value
 
Reading through this thread is a barrel of laughs
And further highlights my opinion that the kennel is full of morons.
 
I reckon the halfback tiers would look something like this

Elite
Cleary
DCE
Hughes
Adam Reynolds
Mitch Moses

Very good
Ben Hunt

Good (but potentially great)
Katoa
Walker
Nicho Hynes
Sexton

Bang Average
Fogarty
Townsend
Hastings
Sezer

Boggo
Hutchinson
 
BULLDOGGSFAN said:
I reckon the halfback tiers would look something like this

Elite
Cleary
DCE
Hughes
Adam Reynolds
Mitch Moses

Very good
Ben Hunt

Good (but potentially great)
Katoa
Walker
Nicho Hynes
Sexton

Bang Average
Fogarty
Townsend
Hastings
Sezer

Boggo
Hutchinson
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Move Reynolds to very good/good, he’s useless now and injury prone
 
BULLDOGGSFAN said:
I reckon the halfback tiers would look something like this

Elite
Cleary
DCE
Hughes
Adam Reynolds
Mitch Moses

Very good
Ben Hunt

Good (but potentially great)
Katoa
Walker
Nicho Hynes
Sexton

Bang Average
Fogarty
Townsend
Hastings
Sezer

Boggo
Hutchinson
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Fogarty is not bad. Has a big boot on him. When he was out, raiders slid down the ladder. I would put him in the Good pile. Hynes isn't a HB but a FB.
 
BULLDOGGSFAN said:
I reckon the halfback tiers would look something like this

Elite
Cleary
DCE
Hughes
Adam Reynolds
Mitch Moses

Very good
Ben Hunt

Good (but potentially great)
Katoa
Walker
Nicho Hynes
Sexton

Bang Average
Fogarty
Townsend
Hastings
Sezer

Boggo
Hutchinson
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We honestly all have different ideas of what a good player is in every position. And to some extent how well regarded they are will depend on how they fill a specific role in association to other players around them.

One example to look at in this is when we had Ennis here. Our props looked like monsters. Ennis moved on and Lichaa replaced him. The props suddenly looked like slugs from the beginning of Lichaas run here. Basically came down to the timing of passes to them. If props can expect their hooker to time his passes to let them focus on gathering momentum before getting the ball, they'll look incredible. If they have to start gaining momentum after waiting on the pass they're not going to look good. It's why forwards at Melbourne looked incredible while C. Smith was there and they'd change clubs and look average. But here on this forum people hated Ennis because he wasn't doing much dummy half running. Lichaa was going to revolutionise our attack.

My opinion on halves is that they need three things to excel.
- First being a bit of space created by the forwards. That extra half second of time to have a glimpse at the defence and line up a kick is massive.
- Second is good service from the hooker. This will also extend their time to make quick calls and execute their choice of play.
- Third is having another good half to split the attention that defences can place on them. Foran looked pretty average a lot of the time for us because he was the main playmaker while fit and was heavily defended. On the flip side of that, Brooks had one of his best seasons with manly because DCE took up a lot of the defences attention.

So I don't think it's as simple as rating them in groups like that. A lot of outside factors can contribute or detract from their form regardless of their ability level.
 
Alan79 said:
We honestly all have different ideas of what a good player is in every position. And to some extent how well regarded they are will depend on how they fill a specific role in association to other players around them.

One example to look at in this is when we had Ennis here. Our props looked like monsters.

So I don't think it's as simple as rating them in groups like that. A lot of outside factors can contribute or detract from their form regardless of their ability level.
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Sure but if you put one of those elite players (like Cleary or Hughes) into the Tigers or Raiders then they are making the finals.

Simple as that.

That’s the difference between the elite and the rest. Look at the difference a fit Adam Reynolds made to the Broncos last season and what’s happened to the bunnies since he left.
 
Alan79 said:
Obviously he wouldn't. He's been retired for 9 years and his knees were screwed before he retired. He was having cartilage replacement surgery four years before he retired. But he made it a number of years with screwed knees before retiring. He iced a lot of games for us just by making the right choices. Could nail a field goal under pressure

Tl:Dr
He couldn't make it today as he was medically retired 9 years ago.
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It wasn't just his knees. Hodko had next to no vision, no creativity, hardly ever threw a money ball that put players through gaps. He was one trick pony with field goals.
 
BULLDOGGSFAN said:
I reckon the halfback tiers would look something like this

Elite
Cleary
DCE
Hughes
Adam Reynolds
Mitch Moses

Very good
Ben Hunt

Good (but potentially great)
Katoa
Walker
Nicho Hynes
Sexton

Bang Average
Fogarty
Townsend
Hastings
Sezer

Boggo
Hutchinson
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Top 4 HB are Cleary, DCE, Hughes and Sam Walker. Reynolds and Moses nowhere near their level and Chooks were never a chance to win this year when Walker got injured.
 
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