U.S. Politics - Thread

[Dawgfather]

And you still don't understand the difference between "protests" and "rioting"

Fact check: Kamala Harris said she supports protests, not ‘riots’, in Late Show clip

Social media users have been sharing a video of Democratic vice-presidential candidate Kamala Harris saying that anti-racism protests will not and should not stop, claiming that it shows she supports Black Lives Matter riots.

www.reuters.com

Harris condemned violent protests on Aug. 27 after multiple nights of looting and two violent deaths.

She said, “It’s no wonder people are taking to the streets and I support them. We must always defend peaceful protest and peaceful protestors. We should not confuse them with those looting and committing acts of violence, including the shooter who was arrested for murder. And make no mistake, we will not let these vigilantes and extremists derail the path to justice.”

Feel free to pretend you didn't see that. I know you will. Someone will ask you the same question later and you will post the same video saying, "DEMOCRATS SUPPORT LOOTING"

So if you say the word ‘protests’ it covers you completely? Despite the fact many of the protests were descending into riots and looting every single night across multiple cities....makes sense.

At the end of the day Trump didn’t tell anyone to riot as far as I can see. He said what he believed to be true (that the election was stolen).

It is not illegal to say that you believe an election was rigged.

It is not illegal to tell your supporters to come to their house or government and protest.

 

[Dawgfather]

Rubbish. Trump stonewalled and accused the media of fakery. He sent out stooges to answer questions, and they acted according to his own propaganda scripts - telling the most obvious falsehoods, while Trump sat on his arse and tweeted lies, insults, and fakery on social media.

He couldn't handle being asked questions that he couldn't answer, so he built his own parallel universe where he was master of the media.

If he couldn’t handle it, why did he do constant press conferences with the media for four years when he could have very easily just avoided it.

 

[Dawgfather]

Was this treasonous or was it ok because it suits certain political narratives?

 

[Hacky McAxe]

Many of the Republicans are now asking Trump to step down immediately as they are worried that everyone will resign which will result in a political crisis.

Pelosi has reached out to Pence to invoke the 25th amendment but she's also considering impeachment.

 

[Dawgfather]

Biden himself has essentially stoked political violence:

If trump had said this it would have been front page news for days.

 

[Dawgfather]

Many of the Republicans are now asking Trump to step down immediately as they are worried that everyone will resign which will result in a political crisis.

Pelosi has reached out to Pence to invoke the 25th amendment but she's also considering impeachment.

Impeachment will only stoke the fires even further. If they want peace then the best thing to do is to let Trump serve his last 2 weeks and then step down.

Any more acts against Trump are just going to charge up his supporters even more (which is no good for anyone).

 

[Dawgfather]

Nancy Pelosi:

“I just don’t know why there aren’t uprisings all over the country, and maybe there will be”

 

[Hacky McAxe]

Impeachment will only stoke the fires even further. If they want peace then the best thing to do is to let Trump serve his last 2 weeks and then step down.

Any more acts against Trump are just going to charge up his supporters even more (which is no good for anyone).

I don't think they'll have time to impeach anyway. But the problem is that many of Trump's administration have resigned in protest of Trump's actions. They're worried others will resign leaving a no one to run things.

The main concern is that the heads of the FBI, CIA and Homeland may all resign. That would lead to major security issues.

 

[DinkumDog]

Completely different policing environment, you can’t compare us to them.

Thanks Sherlock. Obviously it’s different because we’re not a nation of gun nuts who crap on about ‘second amendment rights’ mass shooting after mass shooting. We don’t have conservative politicians that kowtow to lobby groups and donors like the NRA nor use guns as an electoral weapon like the GOP do. ‘They want to take your guns off you’... So of course Police need to be trained differently - ZERO to do with ‘competence’.

 

[DinkumDog]

If he couldn’t handle it, why did he do constant press conferences with the media for four years when he could have very easily just avoided it.

Because he’s an ego-maniac who can’t stay out of the spotlight, even though he showed time and time again how poorly he does PR. The media attacks against him grew because he attacked them: ‘You’re fake news’, ‘You’re a terrible reporter’. That’s not ‘standing up’ to the media, it’s firing the first shot.

 

[DinkumDog]

Impeachment will only stoke the fires even further. If they want peace then the best thing to do is to let Trump serve his last 2 weeks and then step down.

Any more acts against Trump are just going to charge up his supporters even more (which is no good for anyone).

So in other words: ‘Let him get away with it just to appease his supporters’. Yeah Nah.

 

[N4TE]

I hope they all signed in with their QR code’s before they stormed parliament.

 

[Dawgfather]

Remember when political protestors banged on the doors of an institution to attempt
To stop someone from taking an office?

 

[Dawgfather]

So in other words: ‘Let him get away with it just to appease his supporters’. Yeah Nah.

Get away with what? You’ll need to be specific rather than emotional.

 

[DinkumDog]

Get away with what? You’ll need to be specific rather than emotional.

Emotional? Who’s the avoider here when confronted with specifics? Pot, Kettle, Black, no? .

He should be tossed from office immediately to send the strongest possible message that no individual, no office can undermine the democratic process. What he did if not inviting insurrection was not show adequate strength to stop it. Anything he said yesterday was weak and too late (not to mention hypocritical of his previous ‘law and order!’ stance). All because as per usual it didn’t suit him. He’s always been unfit for office and yesterday proved it to a new level.

 

[DinkumDog]

I hope they all signed in with their QR code’s before they stormed parliament.

With 3900 further C-19 deaths in the US yesterday (a new record), it seems their contact tracing system ain’t working very effectively...Another Donny ‘legacy’.

 

[DinkumDog]

I don't think they'll have time to impeach anyway. But the problem is that many of Trump's administration have resigned in protest of Trump's actions. They're worried others will resign leaving a no one to run things.

The main concern is that the heads of the FBI, CIA and Homeland may all resign. That would lead to major security issues.

Oh but this is ‘the end of the greatest first term presidency in the history of our country’ according to Donny. We’ve seen Cat-5 hurricanes leave less mess in their wake...

 

[Hacky McAxe]

Remember when political protestors banged on the doors of an institution to attempt
To stop someone from taking an office?

Yep. And it was shocking.

But Kavanaugh wasn't elected by democracy. He was appointed by Trump. There's a big difference between a single official being appointed by a single person and the actual democratic process.

This is more akin to when Trump won and angry people started trashing stores. Except they weren't trying to stop the democratic process.

 

[Hacky McAxe]

More on the woman who was shot and killed. Still nothing on the other 3 who died.

Ashli Babbitt death: Donald Trump supporter shot in Capitol riots (news.com.au)

 

[KambahOne]

Get away with what? You’ll need to be specific rather than emotional.

This is the perfect time to be emotional. I've not laughed so hard or been so happy watching the Dumpster and his inbred band of retards suck salty tears. Seeing the Dumpster throw the biggest tantrum in living memory is emotional and it's done wonders for my mental health. In the same vein I hope they never ban you as reading your retarded shit is equally hilarious. Keep it up dude, it's a lol a minute.