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There was an Austrian painter who went into great detail on this subject matter in his best selling book.

Is it controversial to say a lot of what he wrote about them was right?
 
GoTheDoggies said:
There was an Austrian painter who went into great detail on this subject matter in his best selling book.

Is it controversial to say a lot of what he wrote about them was right?
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That depends if you invade Poland or not.
 
Side note. Apparently FLAFOTUS is attending the superbowl on Monday. Now that could be interesting.
 
Doogie said:
Side note. Apparently FLAFOTUS is attending the superbowl on Monday. Now that could be interesting.
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"This is not super. We need to make the bowl Super again. Steroids for everyone!"
 
I would settle for him bringing back the Lingerie Football League.
 
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UmoGus said:
A resolution to the mess is displacing 2 mil people. What a clown
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As opposed to the demoncrap policy of letting Israel bomb them to rubble continuously. Continue the cycle of war...

You have to step back and look at the fact Israel have all the power in this situation. They hold all the cards, no country of note is going in to support Palestine.
 
GoTheDoggies said:
As opposed to the demoncrap policy of letting Israel bomb them to rubble continuously. Continue the cycle of war...

You have to step back and look at the fact Israel have all the power in this situation. They hold all the cards, no country of note is going in to support Palestine.
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Do you think trump would have stopped Israel bombing the shit out of gaza for the past year if he was in charge?
 
Hacky McAxe said:
In part. It's a double edged sword. It encourages local manufacturing but it also starts a trade war. Canada and Mexico have already prepared retaliatory tariffs which means that US companies lose exports resulting in job losses, business closures, and economic downturn.

Trade wars are never a good thing. They always cause global economic damage.
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It seems to have worked well and brought these countries to the bargaining table as opposed to what you have mentioned above.
 
UmoGus said:
Do you think trump would have stopped Israel bombing the shit out of gaza for the past year if he was in charge?
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No.

The difference is Trump is honest. Trump doesn't want to see this war go back to square one again. Unlike the demoncraps and other fakes who call for a two state solution but have zero actions to back up their talk.

Don't get me wrong Trump's option is still a disaster but it at least ends the war. The two state solution talk was always total bullshit to anyone who was paying attention. It's just lip service to make them look humanitarian.

Trump has at least come to grips with the reality of the situation. Either Israel is going to keep bombing them or they need to get out. Israel holds all the cards in this situation and they can always play the Holocaust victim card if things go pear shaped.
 
Netanyahu smirking the whole time was creepy as. You can tell this has been his whole political life of work leading to his ultimate goal of expansion. A greater Israel.
 
EL Hefe said:
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That's not huge. It's public record that Trump and Co shut down foreign funding. They didn't shut down weapons funding, but they shut down aid funding to Ukraine. The money that was meant to be used to feed the poor, keep the electricity running, etc. They made sure that they can still kill each other but also ensured that the civilians won't survive.
 
GoTheDoggies said:
Still better than the demoncraps option of pretending to support Palestine and then watching them get bombed while doing absolutely nothing.

At least Trump wants a resolution to this mess.
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Genocide vs ethnic clensing.... that's not a better option. It's at least as bad.
 
UmoGus said:
A resolution to the mess is displacing 2 mil people. What a clown
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I had a phone hookup with some people I'm working with in the States today. Sort of dropped my shock at the announcement. They all started laughing. Asked am I missing something? They said its all bullshit. In their view this is just the latest distraction from Musk stealing all their personal data. And they are seriously pissed about that.

Which when you think about it - if you move aside from having any morals or ethics - its actually fairly clever. Think of it as a hail mary. Gets everyones attention, stops everyone focussing on what they should be focussing on (Musk stealing all your info). As long as you get done what you really wanted to get done - you can come out at the moment you need to and say - well we thought about it - Palestinians, great guys. Very smart people blah blah blah. And everyone breathes a sigh of relief and we move on.

But also, if somehow it gets up and there's some sort of international agreement to it - beauty. Hit the jackpot.

No downside because the worst that happens is everyone thinks your a fckwit. Everyone already thinks he's a fckwit so where is the loss?
 
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