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As usual - the facts do not back up the rhetoric.
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Obama deported more than FLAFOTUS. Everyone in the last 30 years deported more than FLAFOTUS.

And since you want to mention Laken Riley. Lets have a look at Ibarras criminal history.
1) After illegal entry recieved a sort of temporary refugee visa because of the Venezuela civil war
2) Rec'd a miss for having his wifes kid on the back of his moped without a helmet while doing food deliveries
3) Pinched some kids underwear and bacon from a Walmart

And..... thats it.

So you want to deport this guy yet at the same time you have a dude who has been charged with fraud over 2500 times, committed sexual abuse on women multiple times, may have engaged in sex trafficking and pedophilia, instigated an insurrection that killed 5 people and injured hundreds and its ok for him to be the Pres because.... he's an American citizen?

You guys are seriously funny. You continue to point at small issues so you do not have to look at the massive issue staring you straight in the face.
No immigrant with ANY criminal history should be let into the US. It’s that simple don’t care if it’s petty crime…what happened when this tool head was…yep committed a serious crime. If he was actually stopped at the border the victim would still be here. To make matters worse it took till the new President to put this law in place! It should never have taken this long.

The US will welcome immigrants but they have to be through the right channel and NO criminal history
 

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If Trump hadn't grandstanded and nuked the Democrat bill then solutions could have been implemented quicker.

He had no thoughts about caring for victims whatsoever. Just wanted to foster chaos and fear in the public as has been his whole political career.
That bill wasn’t doing enough and it was a completely watered down version of this one. Why put in a rubbish excuse of a Bill when this new one is better. Immigration policies were just bad under Biden and Miss Lettuce. They did some good things and they will be continued but there’s some things that won’t and borders are one and definitely the pronoun rubbish is another thing. Trump isn’t nuking every policy he’s targeting a few especially ones he campaigned on
 

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Democrats like to say they care about Americans unfortunately their immigration stuff flies right in the face of that. Luckily the current President won’t cop that and if you are here illegally and have crimes you will be deported and if you have a notice for removal you will be deported. This is a good solid policy that cares about Americans and keeps them safer
Except for the fact violent crime rates went up when your safety inspecter was in power last time and almost certainly will do again.

Spare us the bullshit. You don’t care about the safety of Americans. If you did you wouldn’t support a guy who started an insurrection. All you care about is hating on trans people.
 
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Except for the fact violent crime rates went up when your safety indicator was in power last time and almost will to do again.

Spare us the bullshit. You don’t care about the safety of Americans. If you did you wouldn’t support a guy who started an insurrection. All you care about is hating on trans people.
I care about one thing and one thing only and that’s whether my family was better off under Trump and they were. Don’t like it I don’t care. You can blame Covid or whatever but frankly not my concern. Stop giving millions overseas and maybe US citizens would have more financial stability. Instead let’s waste millions overseas, let’s pay for some stupid operations to prisoners. I don’t hate trans people anyway, however they are not to be in women’s sports that is where many Americans not just me draw the line
 

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I care about one thing and one thing only and that’s whether my family was better off under Trump and they were. Don’t like it I don’t care. You can blame Covid or whatever but frankly not my concern. Stop giving millions overseas and maybe US citizens would have more financial stability. Instead let’s waste millions overseas, let’s pay for some stupid operations to prisoners. I don’t hate trans people anyway, however they are not to be in women’s sports that is where many Americans not just me draw the line
For someone who doesn’t hate trans people you sure spend a lot of time denying their right to personhood.

And for someone who just wants a better deal for your family, you spend an awful lot of time waffling on about trans people in sport, which is a total non issue compared to the very real problems facing that nation right now… a significant number of which are being caused by the guy you support.
 

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Look at this stupid cuck motherfucker....


Fuck him, his head is so far up Israhells arsehole, he knows exactly who us Assyrians are, all Jews do.

PS the smart Assyrians don't support any political scumbag.
 

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No immigrant with ANY criminal history should be let into the US. It’s that simple don’t care if it’s petty crime…what happened when this tool head was…yep committed a serious crime. If he was actually stopped at the border the victim would still be here. To make matters worse it took till the new President to put this law in place! It should never have taken this long.

The US will welcome immigrants but they have to be through the right channel and NO criminal history
You quoted Laken Riley Act. Ibarra had no criminal history when let into the US. None. Zero. Zip.

Now you want to quote the right channel. Sure. Why are you not advocating to deport Elon Musk? He overstayed his visa. Go on - say it. We should deport Elon Musk.

And since we'e there. A bucket load of evidence Melania Knavs was an illegal immigrant in NY when she first arrived in 1996. I quote. In 2016, the AP requested Michael J. Wildes, a New York attorney whom Melania Trump had asked to review her immigration documents, to examine the 1996 payment papers from the shuttered modeling agency, Metropolitan International Management. He responded to the news service with only a brief statement, saying, “These documents, which have not been verified, do not reflect our records including corresponding passport stamps.”

Now you want to quote the right channel. Sure. Why are you not advocating to deport Melania? She arrived illegally. Go on - say it. We should deport Melania. Guess that means Barron gets to go too right? Birther meh meh and all...

C'mon - fair is fair. Lets keep it all above board right?
 

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After all the tough talk from the Colombian president he backed down. What a shock!
Really? Colombia from the word go said we are not accepting anyone directly on a military flight and that we will pick em up in the Pres jet. Columbias last statement was we are ready to pick them up in the Pres jet.

I believe the first 2 flights went to Honduras. Which is sort of halfway between the US and Columbia. So right now - no US military plane has hit Columbia land with deportees. Which is exactly what Petro said at the very beginning.

This is really easy. The days of even remotely believing what comes out of the White House Pres corp are long gone. And 90% of modern media just copy and paste. Not hard to see what the other side is saying.
 

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Yeah FLAFOTUS - you just did. FAFO China and....

The only economic initiative to grow US business put up by FLAFOTUS was the AI initiative. Billions of investment in hardware to power it. All of it just scuppered by Deepseek. They can do for millions what the US reckon costs billions. Is it any good though?

Marc Andreessen, a leading US venture capitalist, compared the launch of DeepSeek’s R1 model last Monday to a pivotal moment in the US-USSR space race, posting on X that it was AI’s “Sputnik moment”, when the Soviet Union astounded its cold war rival by launching a satellite into orbit.

All the major tech companies went south. The only two that bounced back were Meta (coz Zuck from nowhere promised to dump another $65B into AI architecture) and Apple (coz they amazingly found a press release saying sales in China were expected to go up). Believe nVidia just lost more money in one day than any stock in history.

Thats how big boys play FLAFOTUS. You FAFO'd.
 

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And one more question?
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$7 now. Highest price ever. Its so bad Dems are asking when is the cost of living coming down?

 

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Yeah FLAFOTUS - you just did. FAFO China and....

The only economic initiative to grow US business put up by FLAFOTUS was the AI initiative. Billions of investment in hardware to power it. All of it just scuppered by Deepseek. They can do for millions what the US reckon costs billions. Is it any good though?

Marc Andreessen, a leading US venture capitalist, compared the launch of DeepSeek’s R1 model last Monday to a pivotal moment in the US-USSR space race, posting on X that it was AI’s “Sputnik moment”, when the Soviet Union astounded its cold war rival by launching a satellite into orbit.

All the major tech companies went south. The only two that bounced back were Meta (coz Zuck from nowhere promised to dump another $65B into AI architecture) and Apple (coz they amazingly found a press release saying sales in China were expected to go up). Believe nVidia just lost more money in one day than any stock in history.

Thats how big boys play FLAFOTUS. You FAFO'd.
NVidia stock tanked. Don't think the tariffs are going to stop this.
 

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Many don't understand how AI models are developed. They are a series of complex, self-learning algorithms, but they are trained by humans. Thousands of humans clicking buttons to teach it the difference between a leaf and a branch, a shirt and a blouse, etc.

China has cheap labour en masse. There's no way the US could match that cost.
 

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NVidia stock tanked. Don't think the tariffs are going to stop this.
The US thought they could block China by banning +100 series NV chips. So the chinese did this on I believe 80 series chips. That NV practically give away. It should be impossible to get investment for something that can be delivered at a 1000x cheaper. And the timing is just brilliant.

This might explain why apparently FLAFOTUS has been down in Florida playing golf in the last 24 hours. Story is this is where he goes when he is deeply pissed. Outside of some trade ban or fluffing up some security argument (which would be fascinating in light of TkTk), not sure where you can go with this.
 

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The US thought they could block China by banning +100 series NV chips. So the chinese did this on I believe 80 series chips. That NV practically give away. It should be impossible to get investment for something that can be delivered at a 1000x cheaper. And the timing is just brilliant.

This might explain why apparently FLAFOTUS has been down in Florida playing golf in the last 24 hours. Story is this is where he goes when he is deeply pissed. Outside of some trade ban or fluffing up some security argument (which would be fascinating in light of TkTk), not sure where you can go with this.
he done more in 5 days ! so go play golf !
 

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he done more in 5 days ! so go play golf !
Apart from sacking people for doing their jobs, pardoning terrorists, having his one business development project nixed by the Chinese in one swoop and deporting less people than Biden - what exactly has he done?

I know what he's done.

 

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For someone who doesn’t hate trans people you sure spend a lot of time denying their right to personhood.

And for someone who just wants a better deal for your family, you spend an awful lot of time waffling on about trans people in sport, which is a total non issue compared to the very real problems facing that nation right now… a significant number of which are being caused by the guy you support.
I'm not denying any rights they are welcome to participate in their designated sex at birth category, whatever that is, they are MORE than welcome to do that, literally nothing is stopping them, but pretending there aren't differences in biology is almost as ridiculous as Lettuce Head being a presidential candidate.

I care about one thing, it was easier to pay for things under Trump, we had more cash. So I was always going to vote that way, do I love the person not really but I like a few of his fantastic policies, immigration will improve, I love the no tax on tips initiative too, and we can get back to their being two genders. All 3 are great policies, and ones that will help.
 
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