Trump Vs Clinton - Debate #3

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Yeah, ****. Unwillingness. You failed to answer my question. If your job was saved, would you be happy or would you still put a negative spin on it?

Give and take. Trump gives as good as he gets. He was destroyed by 99% of the media and still is. It's a shame your dear leader sanders couldn't handle Hillary. Who knows what would've happened?

Aggravated? I told you, I think your cute. You and your socialist beliefs and your devotion to the loser sanders. I love you people. So cute.
Hahahaha, good luck chump. What reprieve am I going to get in my job being saved, for a short time, but still being unsure of my long term future? Carrier can at any time negate the deal and piss off to Mexico, IT'S PLAIN SIMPLE ECONOMICS FOR THEM.

How completely stupid of me to want government representatives to come up with strategies. Strategies that encompass a realisation that certain industries may no longer be viable, so looking at educating our population to be flexible in working conditions.

There's a reason he's destroyed by the media, because he won't stop saying stupid shit. Please tell me how this escapes you?

Nah you're aggravated, you've resorted to common insults from YOUR side of politics, but hardly surprising given how popular slogans seem to be amongst you
 

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Politics is funny. One side will call a bigot if you don't agree with them, the other will call you a communist if you don't agree with them. You're actually exactly the same as each other.
 

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Communism, hahahahaha

Using communism as an insult when Trump is cosying up to a former KGB agent.

I swear you can't make this shit up.
 

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Hahahaha, good luck chump. What reprieve am I going to get in my job being saved, for a short time, but still being unsure of my long term future? Carrier can at any time negate the deal and piss off to Mexico, IT'S PLAIN SIMPLE ECONOMICS FOR THEM.

How completely stupid of me to want government representatives to come up with strategies. Strategies that encompass a realisation that certain industries may no longer be viable, so looking at educating our population to be flexible in working conditions.

There's a reason he's destroyed by the media, because he won't stop saying stupid shit. Please tell me how this escapes you?

Nah you're aggravated, you've resorted to common insults from YOUR side of politics, but hardly surprising given how popular slogans seem to be amongst you
Hahahaha, good luck chump. What reprieve am I going to get in my job being saved, for a short time, but still being unsure of my long term future? Carrier can at any time negate the deal and piss off to Mexico, IT'S PLAIN SIMPLE ECONOMICS FOR THEM.

How completely stupid of me to want government representatives to come up with strategies. Strategies that encompass a realisation that certain industries may no longer be viable, so looking at educating our population to be flexible in working conditions.

There's a reason he's destroyed by the media, because he won't stop saying stupid shit. Please tell me how this escapes you?

Nah you're aggravated, you've resorted to common insults from YOUR side of politics, but hardly surprising given how popular slogans seem to be amongst you
As opposed to any other job? No one has a guaranteed job. Give credit where credit is due. People are thankful they still have a job.

You do realise he hasn't taken office yet? You can't pass off your uneducated opinions as facts.

Or, maybe, just maybe the media is biased? Maybe they're majority left wing and so extremely biased they apologise to their subscribers and promise to deliver "accurate" reporting? Are you aware of who I'm talking about or do you need further education?

I'm aggravated you keep calling me chump. Deeply offensive. YOUR side are the side that need play doh, dogs to pat and skip uni exams because they can't handle an election result. And which slogans are you referring to? What slogans have I used?
 

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Communism, hahahahaha

Using communism as an insult when Trump is cosying up to a former KGB agent.

I swear you can't make this shit up.
You're crying about sanders. As communist as you can get.

"Cosying up". Fuck. All you do is regurgitate cnn. Good boy.
 

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As opposed to any other job? No one has a guaranteed job. Give credit where credit is due. People are thankful they still have a job.
It's 0.008% of manufacturing jobs, manufacturing jobs are a dying industry in the US, no one can compete with India or China, and even China are now starting to outsource these to Africa. It's not a solution, it's a PR stunt.

It's absolutely wonderful that Trump saved the jobs of these 1000 people, I'm not being sarcastic, genuinely it's great news for those workers.

BUT it's not a solution for the 12.33 million manufacturing workers who at any time could have their jobs threatened by companies going overseas. Why?

Because it cost $7.75 million for Trump to keep those 1000 jobs. If he keeps paying/giving tax breaks to companies to keep them in the US, he's going to send the country further into debt at a much more alarming rate. The numbers just do not add up.

This is why I'm saying it's a PR stunt, it's not effective policy. There's no ifs or buts.

You do realise he hasn't taken office yet? You can't pass off your uneducated opinions as facts.
Which one's are you talking about?

Or, maybe, just maybe the media is biased? Maybe they're majority left wing and so extremely biased they apologise to their subscribers and promise to deliver "accurate" reporting? Are you aware of who I'm talking about or do you need further education?
Are you serious? Mate, it's not hard to read a news article, then research that article to see if it's spinning bullshit or it's actually a legit article (these companies they report on have websites and media releases of their own). Then over time, you get handle/experience over which media agencies tend to not spin bullshit and which media agencies do spin bullshit.

I'm aggravated you keep calling me chump. Deeply offensive. YOUR side are the side that need play doh, dogs to pat and skip uni exams because they can't handle an election result. And which slogans are you referring to? What slogans have I used?
Communists, Socialists, Riots, CNN

And now we reach play dough (it's not doh), dogs to pat and skip uni exams, FFS lol
 

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You're crying about sanders. As communist as you can get.

"Cosying up". Fuck. All you do is regurgitate cnn. Good boy.
Sanders is a communist?

Democracy doesn't mix with communism, so there is no way in hell, you can actually call Sanders a communist.
 

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It's 0.008% of manufacturing jobs, manufacturing jobs are a dying industry in the US, no one can compete with India or China, and even China are now starting to outsource these to Africa. It's not a solution, it's a PR stunt.

It's absolutely wonderful that Trump saved the jobs of these 1000 people, I'm not being sarcastic, genuinely it's great news for those workers.

BUT it's not a solution for the 12.33 million manufacturing workers who at any time could have their jobs threatened by companies going overseas. Why?

Because it cost $7.75 million for Trump to keep those 1000 jobs. If he keeps paying/giving tax breaks to companies to keep them in the US, he's going to send the country further into debt at a much more alarming rate. The numbers just do not add up.

This is why I'm saying it's a PR stunt, it's not effective policy. There's no ifs or buts.



Which one's are you talking about?



Are you serious? Mate, it's not hard to read a news article, then research that article to see if it's spinning bullshit or it's actually a legit article (these companies they report on have websites and media releases of their own). Then over time, you get handle/experience over which media agencies tend to not spin bullshit and which media agencies do spin bullshit.



Communists, Socialists, Riots, CNN

And now we reach play dough (it's not doh), dogs to pat and skip uni exams, FFS lol
So give up and let the jobs go? Don't even try?

PR stunt? For what, to become president or become a billionaire? He saved 1,000 jobs. Give credit.

Numbers don't add up? I'll take a billionaire businessman's judgement over yours.

You don't know which media outlet I'm talking about, don't you? You don't know which one apologised, don't you?

Are they slogans?

No, it's play DOH. Google it. And again, you don't know what I'm talking about regarding the play DOH, don't you?
 

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Sanders is a communist?

Democracy doesn't mix with communism, so there is no way in hell, you can actually call Sanders a communist.
Yes.

What democracy? He's done fuck all. And sadly for you, he won't be able to. Damn.
 

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So give up and let the jobs go? Don't even try?
I said come up with viable workable strategies. Bribes to keep companies there isnt a workable long term solution.

PR stunt? For what, to become president or become a billionaire? He saved 1,000 jobs. Give credit.
Of course its a PR stunt and we'll see plenty of them from trump, especially if hiscampaign is anything to go by. He'll use these to keep the wolves at bay.

The same way you said obama is a populist ****, trump is doing the same thing with his supporters

Numbers don't add up? I'll take a billionaire businessman's judgement over yours.
Hes not a special businessman, not by any means.

Running a business is NOT the same as runninga nation, they are very different things

You don't know which media outlet I'm talking about, don't you? You don't know which one apologised, don't you?
Tell me.

And then tell me how many articles theyve had about trump

And then tell me the percentage of where they had to apologise or retract

Are they slogans?
Yep its sloganeering

No, it's play DOH. Google it. And again, you don't know what I'm talking about regarding the play DOH, don't you?
Hahaah fair enough i was wrong.
 

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I said come up with viable workable strategies. Bribes to keep companies there isnt a workable long term solution.

Of course its a PR stunt and we'll see plenty of them from trump, especially if hiscampaign is anything to go by. He'll use these to keep the wolves at bay.

The same way you said obama is a populist ****, trump is doing the same thing with his supporters

Hes not a special businessman, not by any means.

Running a business is NOT the same as runninga nation, they are very different things

Tell me.

And then tell me how many articles theyve had about trump

And then tell me the percentage of where they had to apologise or retract

Yep its sloganeering

Hahaah fair enough i was wrong.
Bribes... FFS. The Australian government gives wage subsidies to businesses to hire people. Is that also a bribe or are they stimulating the job market?

Some losers call it a PR stunt, workers of carrier call it a victory for them and their families.

"He's not a special businessman, not by any means." FMD. You're taking the piss, right? A multi billionaire is not a special businessman?

You want me to tell you how many articles the new York times have published? Nah, I'll be right. Do your own research.

"it's sloganeering" is it? Is "chump" sloganeering, too?
 

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Bribes... FFS. The Australian government gives wage subsidies to businesses to hire people. Is that also a bribe or are they stimulating the job market?
The reason i call carrier a bribe, is because of the payoff for that subsidy. The payoff is insignificant and its plain simple grand staging by trump.

Subsidies, by the way, are more founded amongst the ideals of SOCIALISM (theres that dirty word) than free market principles.

Some losers call it a PR stunt, workers of carrier call it a victory for them and their families.

"He's not a special businessman, not by any means." FMD. You're taking the piss, right? A multi billionaire is not a special businessman?
So go on tell me what makes him a special businessman, show me how he was innovative and different from other "businessman" who were propped up by inheritance.

You want me to tell you how many articles the new York times have published? Nah, I'll be right. Do your own research.
I hope you'd get the point behind it

"it's sloganeering" is it? Is "chump" sloganeering, too?
Nope it wasnt sloganeering

It was an insult
 

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The reason i call carrier a bribe, is because of the payoff for that subsidy. The payoff is insignificant and its plain simple grand staging by trump.

Subsidies, by the way, are more founded amongst the ideals of SOCIALISM (theres that dirty word) than free market principles.

So go on tell me what makes him a special businessman, show me how he was innovative and different from other "businessman" who were propped up by inheritance.

I hope you'd get the point behind it

Nope it wasnt sloganeering

It was an insult
Pay-off insignificant? 1,000 people disagree with you.

Stimulating business is a trait of CAPITALISM (uh oh! Don't mean to offend you with that word) than socialism.

I can give you a brief run down on Trump. Yes, his father was successful but Trump took risks his dad never did like investing in Manhattan. He not only took the risk, he defied him by ignoring his opinion. He's built successful properties, hotels and golf courses in America and in other countries. He has his name on buildings he doesn't even own. How many other people are paid to have their name on a building?

I hope you'd educate yourself, once again. Go educate yourself. I'd love to hear your twisted left wing propaganda on why a media outlet apologised to its readers.

Chump is an insult? I don't know if I can handle that one. You're hardcore.
 

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Pay-off insignificant? 1,000 people disagree with you.
The state gets $7 million less in revenue. Have you asked where this $7 million comes from?

Do they sack public workers?
Does a hospital go without funds?
Do shelters for homeless go without funds?

Where does it come from?

Stimulating business is a trait of CAPITALISM (uh oh! Don't mean to offend you with that word) than socialism.
FREE MARKET = no government intervention.

Secondly this isnt stimulating, its maintaining.

I can give you a brief run down on Trump. Yes, his father was successful but Trump took risks his dad never did like investing in Manhattan. He not only took the risk, he defied him by ignoring his opinion. He's built successful properties, hotels and golf courses in America and in other countries. He has his name on buildings he doesn't even own. How many other people are paid to have their name on a building?
None of that answered my question, you made the assertion he was a successful businessman, I defined successfull for you (what did he do that seperates him from other businessmen who inherited wealth and acheived the same as him)

I hope you'd educate yourself, once again. Go educate yourself. I'd love to hear your twisted left wing propaganda on why a media outlet apologised to its readers.
Dont use the word educate, when a vital piece of education is the teaching of theuse of critical thinking and youve failed to utilise this in this instance.

Media agencies make mistakes, just lile anyone else or any other business.

If a media agency makes mutlitple mistakes in regards to a certain viewpoint, it would be fair to assume bias. Which is why you were asked for ratios

Chump is an insult? I don't know if I can handle that one. You're hardcore.
 

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The state gets $7 million less in revenue. Have you asked where this $7 million comes from?

Do they sack public workers?
Does a hospital go without funds?
Do shelters for homeless go without funds?

Where does it come from?

FREE MARKET = no government intervention.

Secondly this isnt stimulating, its maintaining.

None of that answered my question, you made the assertion he was a successful businessman, I defined successfull for you (what did he do that seperates him from other businessmen who inherited wealth and acheived the same as him)

Dont use the word educate, when a vital piece of education is the teaching of theuse of critical thinking and youve failed to utilise this in this instance.

Media agencies make mistakes, just lile anyone else or any other business.

If a media agency makes mutlitple mistakes in regards to a certain viewpoint, it would be fair to assume bias. Which is why you were asked for ratios
You sacrifice a petty seven million for a thousand jobs. Imagine he said "Nah, not saving a thousand jobs. I wanna keep the seven million." imagine your side's headlines if that happened.

Yes, maintaining by stopping an entire business moving overseas. How terrible.

I gave you a brief run-down of why he's successful. He inherited 300 million in '99 and is now worth an estimated 4.5 BILLION. Yeah, he's kinda successful. I know you commies hate success. Sorry.

I've failed to educate you. Says more about you than it does to me. If you want to slander someone, educate yourself with actual facts. I'm sorry you're not able to be educated and are brainwashed by communist propaganda.

There's mistakes and there's extreme bias and out and out lies like "Trump has a 1.9% chance of beating Clinton".
 
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Sanders is a Socialist. Socialism is basically what everyone tries to be until it fails, then they become Communists.
 

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As I've said in the past, Communism and Socialism are massively flawed. The direct opposition to Communism and Socialism is Libertarianism/Capitalism which is also massively flawed. Politics needs to be a mix. It needs to be balanced. Whenever one side gets too much power then you have chaos.
 

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Actually, all ism's are crap. Except for TISM.
 
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