Opinion Time for everyone to calm down?

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Firstly let me say, I am a first timer but I have watched from the sidelines for a long time.

I am a voting member of the Football Club.

Here are my observations

The majority of posters here are not representative of the views of the footy club. The footy club has about 1000 members of which, I estimate 50% are over 55 years old (based on looking around the room at the AGM’s).
Of those (say) 500, I estimate that maybe 10 look at this site.

So that’s 500 votes that aren’t swayed by public opinion here and are also staunchly loyal to maintaining the status quo, because once you’re over that certain age, you like things as they are.

In saying that, the moves a few years ago to oust Dib were probably warranted after his increase salary cap fiasco failed. I don’t think he can be blamed entirely because It appears Todd gave Des free rein.
I don’t think he was such a bad Chairman, just took a gamble and lost. I believe that he had the interests of the Club in mind.

Similarly, McIntyre gambled and lost. After the cap scandal, poor old Gary would get up at every AGM to try and explain what happened with Oasis. It got so tedious that Dr George would shut him down. He still carries on about it on Talkin Sport. He’s like the Keyser Trad of the Dogs....the go to guy for controversy.

George also I believe had the best interests in mind but also got caught up in the Des drama as well as the 3 year car park build at the League Club, but fled the scene pretty quickly when his tenure was up. Don’t know why.

So the Anderson’s got swept into power but had said at their forums that they believed there was cap dramas but they were unaware of the extent.

When they arrived, they made no bones advising that the drama was much worse than they believed ( without having access to the books), and stated that there were a number of backended contracts that needed to be sorted.
What did they do, moved on the world beater Mbye (who is still trying to find his best position), Reynolds and Woods. Soon after best friend Klemmer spat the dummy and left.
No loss any of them.
At the subsequent fan forums, they advised that they aligned with the Northern Rivers district and had invested heavily in the local leagues. But what is always forgotten or never mentioned, is that the local area is predominantly(?) relatively from a Middle Eastern or European background and league is a foreign sport. Your parents influence the game you play and league is probably not the no.1 sport of choice. Why we haven’t targeted the Pacific countries like everyone else is beyond me.

The NRL rules are that you must have 30 registered players with a total spend of $9.6M (forgive me if that number is wrong). Because of the salary cap issues, it seems we had to sign players who were cheap enough to keep us under that figure. Hence the bad results over the last few years.

It was claimed that improvement would not be seen until 2021.

So where are we now.

A board that has done some good things with some failures but re-elected just 7 months ago when they weren’t challenged. It cannot be challenged that the 9 pillars have not been met.
They have signed Cotric (who on his own will not make any difference), Green and Waddell. They have released 9 players so there are still 6 spots to go. Nov 1 is not far away.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not convinced on this board yet either and they have just a few weeks to do something really worthwhile. If they fail to get any decent players, then I think the current motion would get traction.

So we have the faceless who have weighed in. A few weeks ago they claimed to have had 400 signatures to force an EGM. Now that number is 116. Led by the famous YouTuber John K. Telling all and sundry that the minor sponsors are annoyed that the major sponsor wants a say in how well his sponsorship dollars get spent. In the same way that minor members are annoyed that the major players have the say in the running of the place. Doesn’t make sense. (Don’t start on the freebies, everyone knows that there will be payment dates on normal commercial terms and If Laundy wants to get his hands dirty what’s the problem).

Their platform has been...don’t know. Who are they wanting on the Board...don’t know. Who is behind the push...Don’t know.

Presumably Coorey is behind it after the revelations of his indiscretions were announced to the SMH. you can probably guess who was behind that revelation.

Since that original SMH article, the gloves have been off on both sides.

All the while this is damaging further the brand.

What is the motive?
Maybe it’s good old fashioned revenge.

Anyway that’s my take. I believe the membership will give the current lot until 2021 to get it right. I believe that the current motion will fail, mostly because they are offering no alternative.
I think that there will be significant signings after Nov 1 and when TB and his clan arrive things will calm down.

Maybe I’ve misread the room but there is certainly too many power plays going on and the media know exactly who to call. This latest article by the SMH proves that.
Great post MirandaDog and welcome, your post was a good read full of common sense! Sadly it will be poked and prodded by many here who are short on common sense and perspective. Please by all means keep these kind of insightful posts coming I look forward to reading them.
 

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If Lynne and the board want peace they need to sign Grant (900K - 1M) for 2021 and Burton for 2022. Brandon Smith at "minimum" for 2021 + Burton -and these need to be announced ASAP from this November. If they'd sold the Dogs a bit better and offered an extra 100K a season to sign Api Koroisau I seriously believe we wouldn't be where we are right now (we would have won a few more games this year).

They also should have treated CHN a bit better it seems. If we seriously wanted to keep him we could have easily outbid the Raiders. He was very important to us - a lot more important than to the Raiders. Foran would have been much more effective with CHN and RFM running off his passes and chasing his kicks.

People get impatient after 3 years of worsening results and no real sign of improvement. Cotric and Thompson (plus Waddell and Green) aren't enough. They said things would be better for 2021. They're leaving it very, very late in the day for major signings when this could have happened since November last year. I would have thought plans were in place to sign certain players. Looks like they're making it up as they go. They're lucky that Grant and Smith might be available. They better not waste their chance to make up for missing out on Koroisau.
Api we offered our maximum for him. Cap restraints held us off upping our offer. Also it was baz that lured him to Penrith
Same with Jesse Ramien, we also offered Morris more money than the sharks.
We have tried to sign players numerous times. The clubs usually all find the same recruitment targets. The club has offered grant a contract 3 times now. They offered keary a contract but he opted to go to Souths before he came to Sydney.
Same as Sam Walker.
You can’t put a gun to their head and say sign the contract. Obviously a good sales pitch, coaching staff and on/off field performances help. Offering more money doesn’t always work either.
I’ve spoken to Chris Anderson last week (he’s in touch with my company about providing labour for us) there are signings coming. We’re waiting on certain clubs to conclude their season to announce signings.
This board shit is not helping at all though.
 

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Api we offered our maximum for him. Cap restraints held us off upping our offer. Also it was baz that lured him to Penrith
Same with Jesse Ramien, we also offered Morris more money than the sharks.
We have tried to sign players numerous times. The clubs usually all find the same recruitment targets. The club has offered grant a contract 3 times now. They offered keary a contract but he opted to go to Souths before he came to Sydney.
Same as Sam Walker.
You can’t put a gun to their head and say sign the contract. Obviously a good sales pitch, coaching staff and on/off field performances help. Offering more money doesn’t always work either.
I’ve spoken to Chris Anderson last week (he’s in touch with my company about providing labour for us) there are signings coming. We’re waiting on certain clubs to conclude their season to announce signings.
This board shit is not helping at all though.
But why wait till clubs finish to announce the signings?
 

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But why wait till clubs finish to announce the signings?
The players and their current coaches (dare I say including Baz) don’t want the distraction with their names being splashed around whilst they’re focusing on the finals. Hence once those commitments are done, announcements are made.
 

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Is that the famous journalist that writes about the dogs when in crisis?
I think most signings will come after the comp ends tbh...
Miranda Dog made some excellent and also posed the question about the motives of those behind the EGM notice.

After reading a number of threads and speaking with some well-placed people, here's my (semi) educated guess:

  1. John Kara-parachute did some doorknocking for Lynne pre-2018 elections. After the elections he pushed to become a Football Club nominee to the League Club Board. That was knocked back.
  2. As a make-good he was invited to put something up for consideration for his contribution. He put forward some crazy proposal to look after member engagement at $100K + to work 2-3 days a week. It was rejected on the basis of cost, so he becomes Lynne's enemy no.1 (or somewhere in the top 6 of the batting order).
  3. Kara-parachute does more doorknocking, this time to get the numbers for the EGM, selling a story that the current Board has failed and it's time for change, but not declaring his backstory or true motive. But why only Lynne Anderson, John Ballesty and Paul Dunn? Well, he blames Lynne for blocking his path to the League Club Board, so straight up revenge. And Ballesty and Dunn just happen to be the only two football club directors who are also league club directors, so there's potentially two spots becoming available for the job he really wants. The other directors remain because they're seen as no threat to the plan, and it helps sell a stability story.
  4. By coincidence, the push for the EGM signed by Kara-parachute comes shortly after all League Club directors bar Coorey vote to remove him as Chair while serious claims of sexual harassment against him are investigated. So there's a willing ally in Coorey who also has reason to skewer Ballesty and Dunn, and of course he hates Lynne.
  5. In a show of remarkable fuckwittedness, Kara-parachute boy offers to open the door to show the Laundy's out, claiming to have dozens of sponsors ready to back the truck up and unload wads of millions at the gates of Belmore. But has he ever presented a sponsorship proposal to the Club? Nah, didn't think so. So why does he want to f#%k the Laundy's off.? Because he knows they want in for the long term, which potentially reduces the number of available board spots into the future for parachute boy and his mates.
  6. Kara-parachute, Coorey and co (including McIntyre who, while deluded, just loves the attention) know that the current Board and exec will do anything to avoid an EGM that would shitcan season 2021, so that's the weapon used to split the board and start the takeover.
  7. If Kara-parachute does manage to weasel his way onto the League Club board (in return for 'saving' the club from the current regime), guess what... he can help bury any further investigation into allegations against Coorey.
So there it is. Anyone got any better theories.
 

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Excellent post and welcome to the Kennel. However, I don’t wish to calm down I prefer to maintain the rage.

I like to let it wash over me and consume my every thought ..I think we should throw a supporters BBQ and a bonfire inviting Mr Coorey Mr Parachute and co to explain their fantastic plan...
Excellent idea. We can also ask Weilder, Buzz and Kent to come along for the big scoop. All dogs supporters bring a shovel.
 

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We can calm down when we can find a major sponsor that will actually part with their money

We can calm down when we can sign a decent roster of first graders for next year.

We can calm down by not losing our identity and hope
for our youngsters to don the blue and white jersey in Cc cup, instead of mounties, what a disaster...
 

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We can calm down when we can find a major sponsor that will actually part with their money

We can calm down when we can sign a decent roster of first graders for next year.

We can calm down by not losing our identity and hope
for our youngsters to don the blue and white jersey in Cc cup, instead of mounties, what a disaster...
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Sure being hearing the same story for 3 years, someone wake the morons...
 

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So your saying we have pillaged first graders from the top 4 sides still in the finals.......wow big call mate...
The players and their current coaches (dare I say including Baz) don’t want the distraction with their names being splashed around whilst they’re focusing on the finals. Hence once those commitments are done, announcements are made.
 

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More development players on huge coin no doubt......should see how much they paid for thommo..you reckon foran was on a good wicket....
 

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Answer the question dodgem dog.. or you just putting out fires ...
Huh? Where did I say ‘pillaged first graders’?
But yes, I believe teams still playing are involved.
Get a grip Ted.
 
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Get a grip....I've only generally heard females use this terminology, guess you have a feminine side too dinkum ...
Huh? Where did I say ‘pillaged first graders’?
But yes, I believe teams still playing are invoked.
Get a grip Ted.
 

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Get a grip....I've only generally heard females use this terminology, guess you have a feminine side too dinkum ...
Hopefully the BEX kicks in soon.
Goodnight Big Ted, sleep tight :-).
 

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Cheers for chiming in mate.
Your comments just reinforce what I’ve been thinking, that this challenge is pure opportunism without substance, unfortunately made easier by a board that has so far failed to inspire any confidence.
Hopefully that changes in the very near future.
 

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Get a grip....I've only generally heard females use this terminology, guess you have a feminine side too dinkum ...
You're definitely a strange one mate. What a weird line to take when trying to insult someone.

"You're feminine because you say 'Get a grip" I mean ... WTF?

Sometimes I really question the maturity of people on here that have to use such pathetic school boy type insults to attempt, and I say attempt as I know DD will be laughing at your piss poor attempt to get him angry, to ATTEMPT to make others angry.

Fucking weirdo ...

Btw. Don't think there's anything wrong with having a feminine side mate. Nothing wrong with it at all!
 

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Good on ya mate, cause that's exactly what I was doing.
Thanks for your running commentary
I find his posts entertaining,and at times could qualify for a press secretarys job.
I dont have any hard feelings with DD good banter mostly.
But again thank you for your opinion it is duly noted.
You're definitely a strange one mate. What a weird line to take when trying to insult someone.

"You're feminine because you say 'Get a grip" I mean ... WTF?

Sometimes I really question the maturity of people on here that have to use such pathetic school boy type insults to attempt, and I say attempt as I know DD will be laughing at your piss poor attempt to get him angry, to ATTEMPT to make others angry.

Fucking weirdo ...

Btw. Don't think there's anything wrong with having a feminine side mate. Nothing wrong with it at all!
 

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Good on ya mate, cause that's exactly what I was doing.
Thanks for your running commentary
I find his posts entertaining,and at times could qualify for a press secretarys job.
I dont have any hard feelings with DD good banter mostly.
But again thank you for your opinion it is duly noted.
That was well dealt with I've gotta say. Many of us could learn how to shut down people like you just did. Bravo

Glad you enjoy my running commentary. It'll continue
 
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