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I struggle to watch the game now, its just not that interesting anymore. Cancelled my Foxtel account this week because of it.
Did that last year. Just not interesting to watch the glamour sides refereed to easy wins, with all the ball against poor sides who always wind up with a player in the bin.

It is annoying to watch them celebrate like they've won the grand final as they score try after try after try against a side that is struggling with 35% possession and penalised out of the game.

Plus I can't stand the commentary from the Fox team as they barrack for their favourite team, and get excited over every try as they watch lower performing sides demolished to zero.

Why pay good money for that crap? I feel sorry for fans who have paid for premium memberships - especially the Sydney clubs, where two home games have to be played away in the bush or another state.
 

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Belmore has a similar feel the one time we play there a year. The NRL doesnt realise or doesnt want to realise that people want to go to the footy for the steak sangas and the tinnies while their kids play around on the grass and people can sit together and chat while watching the game like you get at suburban grounds. They dont want to spend $30 a ticket to go to ANZ and get zero atmosphere because the joint is 20% full, sitting so far back from the field that the players look like ants and having to fork over $20 for a hot chips and $10 for a crap mid strength beer in a plastic cup
It's obvious that the game is not designed for fans, but for corporates and their sponsored corporate boxes.
 

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This is a combination of many, many reasons and rules, but the extension of the 6-again rules this season has most definitely brought the game to a point where it is now almost unwatchable.
The fact that teams are required to spend up to the salary cap when the final 30 man squad is announced or they face sanctions if they are too far BELOW the cap, means that teams with weaker rosters are effectively overpaying those players to comply with NRL regulations.
Honestly how can you say any Bulldogs player should be on similar or better wages than the majority of stars from Storm, Panthers, Roosters etc?
Yet this is what the Bulldogs are required to do by the NRL.
This then means that if the Club want to get rid of that player as another player becomes available to strengthen their roster, or even if the player wants to voluntarily leave, the inflated wage of the incumbent player is then a hindrance and usually means having to pay part of the players salary when they do go.
Blame poor roster management all you want but the fact clubs are forced to overpay players just to get their salary cap towards the cap level to comply is IMO the biggest reason why we are struggling.
It's a vicious circle, continually perpetuating itself and it's very hard to see a way out,as these new 6-again changes, combined with our roster, are going to keep the Dogs behind the 8-ball if the NRL don't do something.
Simplest thing the NRL can do, right away from this round, is to make the scoring team kick-off, just to give the team conceding points a break for a few minutes.
Then review the changes made this year and preferably get rid of the 6-again rule altogether.
 

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I haven’t gone to a Dogs game since we played the Titans at Belmore and got flogged. I’ve been to about 5 Newtown games since then. Always a Bulldog but it’s a slog
what was the crowd at Henson Park lol?
 

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While they're at it, how about penalising shit PTBs and moving off the mark (like it states in the rulebook) instead of calling the ball back and asking the original player to replay the ball correctly. FMD these are grown men playing first grade not fvcking under 8's.
what about voluntary tackle too whilst we are at it?
 

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Yep Henson Park hotel for one or two bring your dog if ya want $10 to get in sit up on the hill in the winter sunshine sausage or steak Sanga in one hand a tinnie in the other watching footy. The only thing which is good and bad it that it’s become the worst kept secret in the Inner West so it can get packed but the best part is the girls love it. Young mums catching up for a few wines whilst their kids play on the field at half time or just partners and girlfriend sitting out in the sun getting a bit loose whilst the boys talk shit and down the cans.
I bet it gives you time to do your knitting as well? LOL
 

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This is a combination of many, many reasons and rules, but the extension of the 6-again rules this season has most definitely brought the game to a point where it is now almost unwatchable.
The fact that teams are required to spend up to the salary cap when the final 30 man squad is announced or they face sanctions if they are too far BELOW the cap, means that teams with weaker rosters are effectively overpaying those players to comply with NRL regulations.
Honestly how can you say any Bulldogs player should be on similar or better wages than the majority of stars from Storm, Panthers, Roosters etc?
Yet this is what the Bulldogs are required to do by the NRL.
This then means that if the Club want to get rid of that player as another player becomes available to strengthen their roster, or even if the player wants to voluntarily leave, the inflated wage of the incumbent player is then a hindrance and usually means having to pay part of the players salary when they do go.
Blame poor roster management all you want but the fact clubs are forced to overpay players just to get their salary cap towards the cap level to comply is IMO the biggest reason why we are struggling.
It's a vicious circle, continually perpetuating itself and it's very hard to see a way out,as these new 6-again changes, combined with our roster, are going to keep the Dogs behind the 8-ball if the NRL don't do something.
Simplest thing the NRL can do, right away from this round, is to make the scoring team kick-off, just to give the team conceding points a break for a few minutes.
Then review the changes made this year and preferably get rid of the 6-again rule altogether.
Nope. Change the rule back that broke the game, not introduce more. What happens when there is 5 to go & a team needs 2 tries to win. They score one & kick off & there goes their chances.
 

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That 66-0 score line against manly just knocked everything out of me. For the first time in 46 years I can’t bring myself to watch the next dogs game. Thank you vlandys and refs for ruining a great game.
 

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NRL fans thought the tide had changed with two games on Friday being decided by one point but the carnage resumed as a series of blowouts brought the league’s controversial rule changes into even sharper focus.

Manly thumped the Bulldogs 66-0, Gold Coast belted Canberra 44-6 and Newcastle ran riot against the Cowboys in a 38-0 hammering on Saturday, resulting in a 148-6 bloodbath across all three matches.

The last time a single day of NRL action had such a huge gap between the winners and losers was in 2003.

That’s in addition to Melbourne pumping the Roosters 46-0 on Thursday.

New rules introduced in 2020 and 2021 designed to speed the game up have certainly led to a frenetic pace — but they’ve been blamed for exacerbating the gulf between the best and worst teams in the competition.

Australian Rugby League Commission chairman Peter V’landys was credited with saving the game last year during the pandemic but the blowtorch is being put on him for ushering through rule changes some believe have rendered rugby league unwatchable.

Set restarts for ruck infringements also now apply to players pinged for being offside, rather than resulting in the usual penalty, while scrums were replaced with play-the-balls whenever the ball goes over the sideline.

It means there are fewer stoppages, giving weaker teams fewer opportunities to catch their breath and reset their defensive structures, resulting in more points being scored.

V’landys has refused to accept blame for the increase in blowouts this season, saying the onus is on poor teams to manage their rosters better to become more competitive.

But not everyone sees it like that. NRL legend Johnathan Thurston believes the rule changes are directly linked to the massive winning margins we’re seeing.

“Teams are getting exposed. That’s what the rule changes were designed to do — score more points — but with that, we’re seeing a lot of blowout scores so it’s a worrying trend for the NRL,” Thurston said on Sunday.

“It’s not good for the fans going out there paying their hard-earned cash and seeing their teams get absolutely hammered each and every week.

“I don’t know how to stop this trend. That’s what happens when the NRL makes changes to the rules and this is a consequence of it.”

Even players are upset with what’s happening. Melbourne and Queensland prop Christian Welch provided an insight into why the increased speed is causing more blowouts, revealing he’s no fan of how the rule changes have transformed the game.

“It’s just so hard to stay in games mate, you just can’t stop the momentum you are that cooked. Teams just go end to end,” he tweeted on Sunday.

“It’s just a different game now mate. There’s just no more tension/pressure/field position. The grind has been completely eliminated which I reckon sucks.

“Bit depressing isn’t it … grind/pressure/field position battle have all evaporated.”

Plenty of punters have voiced their frustrations too. It was only a couple of weeks ago fans were blowing up after a series of one-sided games and it was a case of deja vu on Saturday.

Issac McIntrye tweeted: “Something very wrong with the new #NRL rules when every game seems to knock down another club record for biggest win, largest margins, biggest head-to-head, etc. Fri games were riveting. Thurs & Sat games been background noise.

“Not so super Saturday that, interested to see how many neutrals would have flicked off early.”

Former Queensland cricketer Luke Feldman wrote: “These blowouts are terrible @NRL @FOXNRL this needs to be fixed and fast!”

Ex-NRL player Cameron King said: “NRL is the best & toughest game in the world. There is no way a game should end 66-0 that’s not what the fans want. That’s my opinion.”
Why dont we go back to the future with some areas that gave us a real contest in games and allowed more players of different size an opportunity to play again.

1. SCRUMS - make them relevant like the old days. Please do this and we will see hookers and forwards who can push against the feed again. Penalise the hb and forwards to this end when they dont comply so we can see the contest in this very important facet of the game i grew up with.

2. 10 mtr rule scrapped and re introduce the 5mtrs. Forwards getting back the 5mtrs will be less likely to get pinged for offside and then scores should reduce given the higher level skillset of players will be required to crack the defence. Think Turvey and the Mortimer bros..
I think these two areas will allow the big boppers to return to the game and again the skills of players like a Sam Kasiano or back in the day Artie Beetson are again back in fashion.

Thoughts on this please as I am thinking we are way down the wrong path as a game and something must change before we lose the game forever....
 

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If they want to speed the game up they should have started by stopping artificially slowing it down. For instance on the weekend we conceded 11 tries. In order to make channel 9 happy ( even when game is on fox)after every conversion attempt or successful penalty goal a 35 second clock starts and the referee halts the game until it hits zero despite both teams being ready to go. So there is about 6 and a half minutes of wasted time.
How about the shot clocks for scrums and drops outs. Why do they need so long give them 10 seconds and get going again.
How about stopping the game every time a trainer asks. Players go down with cramp or a cut and we have to wait for trainers to patch them up before we can restart.
Bringing in rules mid way through last season and doubling down this year without trialing them is the issue. Teams had already locked in most of their roster before the changes so you are unable to adapt to the new rules.
Melbourne, rooster, south’s and Penrith adapted I hear you say. Well it helps that their coaches are the ones on the rules committee. So not only do they get advanced notice of what rules are coming and can recruit to suit them but do you think they will recommend changes to rules that disadvantage their teams?
 

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If they want to speed the game up they should have started by stopping artificially slowing it down. For instance on the weekend we conceded 11 tries. In order to make channel 9 happy ( even when game is on fox)after every conversion attempt or successful penalty goal a 35 second clock starts and the referee halts the game until it hits zero despite both teams being ready to go. So there is about 6 and a half minutes of wasted time.
How about the shot clocks for scrums and drops outs. Why do they need so long give them 10 seconds and get going again.
How about stopping the game every time a trainer asks. Players go down with cramp or a cut and we have to wait for trainers to patch them up before we can restart.
Bringing in rules mid way through last season and doubling down this year without trialing them is the issue. Teams had already locked in most of their roster before the changes so you are unable to adapt to the new rules.
Melbourne, rooster, south’s and Penrith adapted I hear you say. Well it helps that their coaches are the ones on the rules committee. So not only do they get advanced notice of what rules are coming and can recruit to suit them but do you think they will recommend changes to rules that disadvantage their teams?
Exactly this !
 

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If they want to speed the game up they should have started by stopping artificially slowing it down. For instance on the weekend we conceded 11 tries. In order to make channel 9 happy ( even when game is on fox)after every conversion attempt or successful penalty goal a 35 second clock starts and the referee halts the game until it hits zero despite both teams being ready to go. So there is about 6 and a half minutes of wasted time.
How about the shot clocks for scrums and drops outs. Why do they need so long give them 10 seconds and get going again.
How about stopping the game every time a trainer asks. Players go down with cramp or a cut and we have to wait for trainers to patch them up before we can restart.
Bringing in rules mid way through last season and doubling down this year without trialing them is the issue. Teams had already locked in most of their roster before the changes so you are unable to adapt to the new rules.
Melbourne, rooster, south’s and Penrith adapted I hear you say. Well it helps that their coaches are the ones on the rules committee. So not only do they get advanced notice of what rules are coming and can recruit to suit them but do you think they will recommend changes to rules that disadvantage their teams?
Well said. Don't forget the captains challenges. Sometimes you get 4 or 5 a game because they keep winning them. They take more time to review than the tries do. Everything they do slows the game down yet they change the rules of the game to artificially speed it up.
 

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Well said. Don't forget the captains challenges. Sometimes you get 4 or 5 a game because they keep winning them. They take more time to review than the tries do. Everything they do slows the game down yet they change the rules of the game to artificially speed it up.
If the refs got it right more often then there wouldn't be so many successful Captain's Challenges.

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V’landys has refused to accept blame for the increase in blowouts this season, saying the onus is on poor teams to manage their rosters better to become more competitive.
What a load of crap, there will always be poor teams down the bottom of the ladder, it's been like that for 100 years. Someone has to finish 13th,14th,15th and 16th...and that's FACT.

Another reason why this quote from V'landys is crap and a cop-out is because we're also seeing strong teams being at the end of a blow out score line not just the weak teams.

So what is he trying to achieve, every single team being as strong as the Melbourne Storm week in and week out? It's not going to happen and impossible to happen.

What about current shit teams like us who are trying to attract players to our club, it doesn't help when we're getting belted every week, does he want to try and manage our roster for us, he thinks it's easy.

Piss off V'landys, you're not a Rugby League person, and you don't understand the game, go back to what you were doing before and leave the NRL alone, well what's left of it anyway.
 
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