Soccer The Manchester United SUPER Thread

[jmaamary]

So RONALDO has come out and backed the manager while saying the players are shit lol

Yeah saw that. Loved the comment about you can’t give the young players advice because they don’t listen. Compared them to his kids [emoji23][emoji23]

 

[chris_e_fresh]

Who you think he is talking about?

rashford greenwood?

 

[coach]

Who you think he is talking about?

rashford greenwood?

I’d say lingard….. still 18 isn’t he
Carry’s on like it lol

 

[coach]

I love how his calling em out
How they all have to lift

A little bit of Roy Keane never killed anyone lol

 

[chris_e_fresh]

love how his calling em out
How they all have to lift

A little bit of Roy Keane never killed anyone lol

it’s out now who the fuck would argue with him about it.
The team isn’t a team at the moment its a bunch of guys thinking they are playing sunday league getting paid millions

 

[LFC Bulldogs]

So RONALDO has come out and backed the manager while saying the players are shit lol

His days are numbered there. I don’t think he will be there next season Chrissie

 

[LFC Bulldogs]

I love how his calling em out
How they all have to lift

A little bit of Roy Keane never killed anyone lol

But when we call them out it’s trolling lol

Ralph wants workers, he doesn’t want them to “lift”, he wants them to work harder on the field, increase their work rate . some simply cannot “lift” because their ability is capped.

 

[LFC Bulldogs]

Ole got this lot to second without Ronaldo, Varane, Sancho and with Pogba injured for 3 months. Shaw looked like the best left back in the league under him and Greenwood was the best youngster in Europe.

His man management is so underrated, the dressing room collapsed against Mourinho and Rangnick it seems whereas Ole seemed to keep them in tune.

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Come on man you’re smarter than that. Ole didn’t get them to 2nd spot . Liverpools injuries and Lampards tenure at Chelsea was the catalyst for that 2nd spot “achievement”
Once LFC and Chelsea sorted their shit out this seasons ladder is the real indicator where the clubs are at.
Under Ole you copped 4 to an injury ravaged team last season and 5 this season at Old Trafford .
The guy wasnt good enough, the sad thing for your club is that Ralph doesn’t seem to be much better . He’s imposed a system without even having the cattle .

 

[chris_e_fresh]

Ole didn’t get them to 2nd spot . Liverpools injuries and Lampards tenure at Chelsea was the catalyst for that 2nd spot “achievement”

I unblocked your post and saw this shit and realised why I blocked you.

 

[LFC Bulldogs]

I unblocked your post and saw this shit and realised why I blocked you.

Sometimes when the truth is too hard to handle the only way to handle it is to “ block it out” .
What position on the ladder were you this season before Ole was punted?
Ole’s last 2 games at Old Trafford against Liverpool have averaged 4.5 goals for the winning team.

 

[Bulldog_4_Life]

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Come on man you’re smarter than that. Ole didn’t get them to 2nd spot . Liverpools injuries and Lampards tenure at Chelsea was the catalyst for that 2nd spot “achievement”
Once LFC and Chelsea sorted their shit out this seasons ladder is the real indicator where the clubs are at.
Under Ole you copped 4 to an injury ravaged team last season and 5 this season at Old Trafford .
The guy wasnt good enough, the sad thing for your club is that Ralph doesn’t seem to be much better . He’s imposed a system without even having the cattle .

Liverpool and Chelsea coughing up games is on them though. Out of your main starting 11, only VVD and Henderson played less than 30 games? Your front three played almost every game, your fullbacks were fit for the season and Allison only really missed 4 games etc.

At United, in the league, De Gea, Lindelof, Pogba, Martial, Cavani and Fred played less than 30 games. And thats not including our depth players such as Bailly, Jones and Telles missing a minimum of 2 months through injury. Every team had injuries. Klopp just mismanaged your squad after the injuries and its why you were losing to the likes of Fulham, Burnley and Brighton.

United finished above Chelsea 4 out of the last 5 years, its not them, not us.

 

[Bulldog_4_Life]

Who you think he is talking about?

rashford greenwood?

Definitely Rashford, he seems very frustrated these days.

 

[CrittaMagic69]

Liverpool and Chelsea coughing up games is on them though. Out of your main starting 11, only VVD and Henderson played less than 30 games? Your front three played almost every game, your fullbacks were fit for the season and Allison only really missed 4 games etc.

At United, in the league, De Gea, Lindelof, Pogba, Martial, Cavani and Fred played less than 30 games. And thats not including our depth players such as Bailly, Jones and Telles missing a minimum of 2 months through injury. Every team had injuries. Klopp just mismanaged your squad after the injuries and its why you were losing to the likes of Fulham, Burnley and Brighton.

United finished above Chelsea 4 out of the last 5 years, its not them, not us.

Lol wut

 

[LFC Bulldogs]

Liverpool and Chelsea coughing up games is on them though. Out of your main starting 11, only VVD and Henderson played less than 30 games? Your front three played almost every game, your fullbacks were fit for the season and Allison only really missed 4 games etc.

At United, in the league, De Gea, Lindelof, Pogba, Martial, Cavani and Fred played less than 30 games. And thats not including our depth players such as Bailly, Jones and Telles missing a minimum of 2 months through injury. Every team had injuries. Klopp just mismanaged your squad after the injuries and its why you were losing to the likes of Fulham, Burnley and Brighton.

United finished above Chelsea 4 out of the last 5 years, its not them, not us.

Against Brighton we had Henderson at CB partnering Phillips with Kelleher in goal.
Against Burnley we had Fabinho partnering Matip with Salah, Thiago, Henderson , Jota and Bobby unavailable .
Against Fulham we had a CB pairing of Rhys Williams and Phillips .
Funnily enough this was the same centre back pairing we had when we won 2-4 at old Trafford .

Our injuries were extensive and long term. VVD, Matip , and Gomez were out for the majority of the season. We were without key players like Mane and Salah in many important matches.
The man Utd players you have listed were not all injured, Henderson replaced De Gea because it was a Ole’s call based on form. Lindelof , Fred , Martial , Bailly , Jones and Stella’s would not get a start at any of the top 4 teams, they are bog average.

 

[Bulldog_4_Life]

Against Brighton we had Henderson at CB partnering Phillips with Kelleher in goal.
Against Burnley we had Fabinho partnering Matip with Salah, Thiago, Henderson , Jota and Bobby unavailable .
Against Fulham we had a CB pairing of Rhys Williams and Phillips .
Funnily enough this was the same centre back pairing we had when we won 2-4 at old Trafford .

Our injuries were extensive and long term. VVD, Matip , and Gomez were out for the majority of the season. We were without key players like Mane and Salah in many important matches.
The man Utd players you have listed were not all injured, Henderson replaced De Gea because it was a Ole’s call based on form. Lindelof , Fred , Martial , Bailly , Jones and Stella’s would not get a start at any of the top 4 teams, they are bog average.

There is 38 games in the league;

Salah - 37 games
Mane - 36 games
Firmino - 36 games
Allison - 33 games
Robertson - 38 games
TAA - 36 games
Gini - 38 games
Fabinho - 31 games

8 out of your first XI players were available for the majority of the season, including most of your best.

Obviously you copped injuries, everyone did, this season weve literally started Matic at centre back in the champions league and even Jones has played who wouldve started this season as our 4th choice centre back, no one has used injuries as an excuse for our poor form.

De Gea injured his hand last season. The others may well be shit or out of form but they were the best we had.

DDG - 26 games
Lindelof - 29 games
Pogba - 26 games
Cavani - 26 games
Martial - 22 games

These players missed essentially a third of the season and whilst most of them are redundant now, they were sure fire starters for us last year.

Again, I understand everyone had injuries but you had some of the best players in their position in the world still featuring, coupled with how shocking you think Ole is, how did you manage to finish behind him?

 

[LFC Bulldogs]

There is 38 games in the league;

Salah - 37 games
Mane - 36 games
Firmino - 36 games
Allison - 33 games
Robertson - 38 games
TAA - 36 games
Gini - 38 games
Fabinho - 31 games

8 out of your first XI players were available for the majority of the season, including most of your best.

Obviously you copped injuries, everyone did, this season weve literally started Matic at centre back in the champions league and even Jones has played who wouldve started this season as our 4th choice centre back, no one has used injuries as an excuse for our poor form.

De Gea injured his hand last season. The others may well be shit or out of form but they were the best we had.

DDG - 26 games
Lindelof - 29 games
Pogba - 26 games
Cavani - 26 games
Martial - 22 games

These players missed essentially a third of the season and whilst most of them are redundant now, they were sure fire starters for us last year.

Again, I understand everyone had injuries but you had some of the best players in their position in the world still featuring, coupled with how shocking you think Ole is, how did you manage to finish behind him?

The 15 odd penalties for Bruno to convert would have helped I think . I called it last season, once the penalties dry up Utd will struggle .

You can try and diminish Liverpools extensive injury toll last season, but many other teams would not have finished as high up with what we endured. Our season was derailed . We had 23 players out at some stage in season 2020/21 .
We used 28 players in total , 18 of which played less than 1/3rd of the PL season matches. In other words 64% of the players used in season 20//21 played less than 1/3rd of the 38 game season.
Just those numbers alone tell a story of personnel instability the team had to endure.
The CB spine (VVD, Gomez, Matip) were out long term , massive losses which forced Klopp to play midfielders (fab8nio , Henderson) as centre backs or inexperienced youngsters . 7 different centre backs combinations . That’s enough to destabilise the very best of teams. Hence the number of 64% of squad players used only having played 1/3rd of the matches .
The strikers were scoring and the midfield were doing their job up until January when things fell apart and the situation became unsustainable , thats when things started to take their toll with Klopp having to reshuffle .
And the season is just not the PL, there is the CL, FA cup and Carabao cup which puts even further stress on teams personnel resources . We played a Carabao cup match against Villa with youngsters due to player unavailability.
Happy to discuss this in the LFC as this is the man Utd thread.

As for De Gea, I recall some in here asking for him to be moved in as he was out form. Im also pretty certain Ole would pick Henderson over a fit and available De Gea in many matches last season .

 

[Hansta]

How do you draw after leading 2-0 late on. Fuck we are shit

 

[LFC Bulldogs]

How do you draw after leading 2-0 late on. Fuck we are shit

De Gea kept you in the game, Aston Villa very unlucky to be trailing .
I see Bruno was gifted a goal also, that first goal was just a horrible fumble by Martinez.
Ronaldo was left out again, this guy never misses matches through injury but they are saying he has a minor hip injury.I don’t believe it. Hes gone next season.Ralph is finishing him.
Ralph still has you hovering around 7th- 8th spot , the formations may have been tweaked , players may hav e been benched but I don’t think there’s been much of an improvement . Don’t think he’s been an upgrade on Ole so far .

 

[coach]

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Come on man you’re smarter than that. Ole didn’t get them to 2nd spot . Liverpools injuries and Lampards tenure at Chelsea was the catalyst for that 2nd spot “achievement”
Once LFC and Chelsea sorted their shit out this seasons ladder is the real indicator where the clubs are at.
Under Ole you copped 4 to an injury ravaged team last season and 5 this season at Old Trafford .
The guy wasnt good enough, the sad thing for your club is that Ralph doesn’t seem to be much better . He’s imposed a system without even having the cattle .

So if ole only got them to second because of injury’s to liverpools “injury’s”
If your being honest you must also say Liverpool only won it in 19/20 because of city’s bad injury’s that season… correct?

Coz every other year they have showed who’s best, except that year they had horrible injury toll

Fairs fair, if it goes on way has to go the other [emoji57]

 

[chris_e_fresh]

How do you draw after leading 2-0 late on. Fuck we are shit

just watched the game. We looked good for 30 mins.

playing matic for 90 was a mistake if you want to play a pressing game he can’t last for 90 mins

elanga Looked good

ddg is a machine.

Coutinho is a good pick up for villa he will do well there