Senior NRL players double down on strike threat

[ChesoBulldog]

NRL will give the RLPA what they want, however this could have easily been avoided if they (NRL) actually approached this with a little more professionalism and didn't treat the RLPA like a bunch of air heads (the irony).

Have they actually named who the executive is that tried to record the meeting?

 

[TwinTurbo]

Deadline set as players threaten 'extreme' action

'We've given them a chance now'

wwos.nine.com.au

NRL issued deadline over new CBA as players threaten 'extreme' action

Penrith captain Isaah Yeo has revealed the NRL has been given a deadline by which to accept a number of elements of a proposed collective bargaining agreement (CBA).

The Rugby League Players' Association (RLPA) wants to have a response by close of business on Thursday relating to non-financial aspects of the proposal, specifically relating to the women's game. As negotiations drag out Yeo insists strike action is a genuine option for the players.

The representative backrower is not confident a deal is close to being struck. "I feel like we've given them a chance now until the end of Thursday. If we have to take more action as a group then we'll do that.," Yeo told media on Wednesday.

"If things keep breaking down like they are and we don't get resolutions, (boycotting games) is obviously the absolute extreme. "It's something the players don't want to get to. We all want to play football. "I'm sure it will all be sorted out before then." The RLPA and NRL have been at loggerheads over terms of a new player CBA, and the situation is reaching crisis point with the men's season to kick off on March 10.

Players have threatened to snub the season launch, and are refusing to do promotional material for the governing body until a deal is reached. The most extreme measure for players would be to boycott season games. Critics of the players' cause have labelled them greedy, but Yeo says that's mainly due to misinformation.

"It feels like some parts of the media are pushing the NRL's case and saying we're greedy. It's not the case," Yeo said. "We are trying to look after each other, not just through football but post-football as well. "There's a lot that goes into it. I feel like some of the people who are coming out and saying stuff don't have their heads wrapped around it fully.

"It's not just about money, it's about looking after each other away from footy once it's all done. "It's being perceived in a lot of different ways, but we're not being greedy, we're just trying to look after one another." Adding fuel to the fire this week was allegations from the RLPA a senior NRL staffer had illegally recorded a meeting with players on Friday. "I wasn't there for that, but obviously I heard," Yeo said of the alleged incident.
"It's just another breakdown in trust, really."

The RLPA fired off a letter to ARLC chairman Peter V'landys on Tuesday demanding action over the alleged recording incident.


Hello NRL, is anyone home? Have you woken up to the fact that RLPA is serious and they aren't backing down.


Always a Bulldog

 

[John Matrix]

Players are said to cover logo’s and not speak to media. This should have been sorted long ago but can we really expect anything different from the NRL.

Players make the game, not the other way around.

 

[spscand]

Surely this just bullshit? Wtf are they complaining about? Getting millions of dollars? Being set up for life for them and their future families?

Don't come at with "bla bla they deserve bla bla" they deserve tizeh! They already earn more than doctors and engineers and teachers, the people that run this country. So they can fuck off with these demands.

 

[CroydonDog]

Fmd, Gordon Tallis is a dribbler.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Surely this just bullshit? Wtf are they complaining about? Getting millions of dollars? Being set up for life for them and their future families?

Don't come at with "bla bla they deserve bla bla" they deserve tizeh! They already earn more than doctors and engineers and teachers, the people that run this country. So they can fuck off with these demands.

So you don't think they should get medical insurance for more than 1 year after they stop playing? Unlike "doctors and engineers and teachers" who get workers compensation insurance for life.

If a player retires with multiple medical issues that can't be fixed in 1 year, tough luck, they have to choose whatever can be fixed in the year and the rest they have to live with for the rest of their life.

So you don't think that a player who plays 100/200/300 NRL games should get the same 1 year as a player who played 1 x NRL game?

Not that pay is an issue with RLPA, they are perfectly OK with the Salary Cap as it is. but "doctors and engineers and teachers" work for 40/50 years, an NRL player's average is 4.5 years, hardly a fair comparison.

So you are OK with Development Players having no medical cover when their development contract stops? Sorry your contact is terminated as from tomorrow and you have to get any medical issues fixed today.

Perhaps take the time to understand what it is exactly that the RLPA is wanting before posting.


Always a Bulldog

 

[B-Train]

This is what V'landys does.. All he cares about is money. He doesn't care what damage he does in the process. The sooner he leaves the game, the better. As bad as previous NRL admins have been, we haven't had issues with the RLPA to this extent for basic things that should have been resolved a long time ago. Not to mention not having the cap amount known which was amateur hour..

Firing the person recording the meeting wouldn't do anything. They'd just be a patsy while the people that told them to record everything keep their positions.

 

[spscand]

So you don't think they should get medical insurance for more than 1 year after they stop playing? Unlike "doctors and engineers and teachers" who get workers compensation insurance for life.

If a player retires with multiple medical issues that can't be fixed in 1 year, tough luck, they have to choose whatever can be fixed in the year and the rest they have to live with for the rest of their life.

So you don't think that a player who plays 100/200/300 NRL games should get the same 1 year as a player who played 1 x NRL game?

Not that pay is an issue with RLPA, they are perfectly OK with the Salary Cap as it is. but "doctors and engineers and teachers" work for 40/50 years, an NRL player's average is 4.5 years, hardly a fair comparison.

So you are OK with Development Players having no medical cover when their development contract stops? Sorry your contact is terminated as from tomorrow and you have to get any medical issues fixed today.

Perhaps take the time to understand what it is exactly that the RLPA is wanting before posting.


Always a Bulldog

Yeh ok thats fucked re lack of assurance if injury. But post career (non injury) is on the players to manage the money theyve made.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Yeh ok thats fucked re lack of assurance if injury. But post career (non injury) is on the players to manage the money theyve made.

Translate it to you and me, say we work on a building sight and get a back injury which doesn't affect us for a few years. We are still covered by workers compensation insurance to cover the resulting medical bills.

Now think about an NRL player that gets a back injury that doesn't surface until after they stop playing. They aren't covered, they have to pay there own medical bills.

Why should it be any different? Both were injured "at work".


Always a Bulldog

 

[Psycho Doggie]

Yeh ok thats fucked re lack of assurance if injury. But post career (non injury) is on the players to manage the money theyve made.

Keep in mind the majority of players with an NRL contract in the last 10 years have earned less than $1m. This isn't about DCE, JT, or Mitchell Moses. This is about all the players who do all the same stuff going through juniors, get to cup level, then get a few seasons at $150-200k, get to 30-50 or so first grade games. Some of those players might go on to a $300-$400k a season contract for 2-3 seasons, get to about 100 first grade games, then retire because of injury or just can't keep up. Their net earnings are under a million, and some of them end up with life long issues. If NRL doesn't act on this, the game will die.

 

[John Matrix]

Keep in mind the majority of players with an NRL contract in the last 10 years have earned less than $1m. This isn't about DCE, JT, or Mitchell Moses. This is about all the players who do all the same stuff going through juniors, get to cup level, then get a few seasons at $150-200k, get to 30-50 or so first grade games. Some of those players might go on to a $300-$400k a season contract for 2-3 seasons, get to about 100 first grade games, then retire because of injury or just can't keep up. Their net earnings are under a million, and some of them end up with life long issues. If NRL doesn't act on this, the game will die.

Hannats interview summed it up

 

[spscand]

Translate it to you and me, say we work on a building sight and get a back injury which doesn't affect us for a few years. We are still covered by workers compensation insurance to cover the resulting medical bills.

Now think about an NRL player that gets a back injury that doesn't surface until after they stop playing. They aren't covered, they have to pay there own medical bills.

Why should it be any different? Both were injured "at work".


Always a Bulldog

Im agreeing re the injury toll and being covered. Create a kitty of cash untouchable unless needed for players with injuries.... hold up, NRL players dont have the work compo all other employees do? WTF? i thought that was blanket across all and any industries

 

[TwinTurbo]

Im agreeing re the injury toll and being covered. Create a kitty of cash untouchable unless needed for players with injuries.... hold up, NRL players dont have the work compo all other employees do? WTF? i thought that was blanket across all and any industries

Players are contractors not employees.

Always a Bulldog

 

[sgodllubsti]

nrl players are not as hard done by as they make out, most have 3rd party deals outside of footy, most have sponsored cars and luxuries, they say they need to make big money while playing footy, how about they just getting a job after footy

 

[spscand]

Players are contractors not employees.

Always a Bulldog

And? What does that mean?

 

[TwinTurbo]

And? What does that mean?

Workers Compensation Insurance applies to employees whilst contractors have their own insurance. While they are playing the NRL pays their insurance, but when they stop playing the NRL only pays one more year, then they are in their own.


Always a Bulldog

 

[TwinTurbo]

nrl players are not as hard done by as they make out, most have 3rd party deals outside of footy, most have sponsored cars and luxuries, they say they need to make big money while playing footy, how about they just getting a job after footy

That doesn’t help with injuries and the resulting medical bills which can go on for years, the rest of their life. If they take an existing condition into their job after playing it’s not covered by insurance.

As for TPA‘s most teams are lucky if 10 of their 30 have anything at all. Most teams it’s 3 to 5, the other 25 have nothing.

Always a Bulldog

 

[Natboy]

That doesn’t help with injuries and the resulting medical bills which can go on for years, the rest of their life. If they take an existing condition into their job after playing it’s not covered by insurance.

As for TPA‘s most teams are lucky if 10 of their 30 have anything at all. Most teams it’s 3 to 5, the other 25 have nothing.

Always a Bulldog

They can’t pay $50 a month with HCF or Bupa after they retire? Isn’t workers comp pathetic payments anyway and very difficult to get claims approved? They need to manage their money better like the rest of us are expected to

 

[TwinTurbo]

They can’t pay $50 a month with HCF or Bupa after they retire? Isn’t workers comp pathetic payments anyway and very difficult to get claims approved? They need to manage their money better like the rest of us are expected to

Nope, it would be an "existing condition" and excluded.

Always a Bulldog

 

[Natboy]

Nope, it would be an "existing condition" and excluded.

Always a Bulldog

Workers comp could say the same thing, particularly when some of these guys have been playing contact sport for 30 years.

Clint Newtown is remembered for dumping Jennifer Hawkins to concentrate on his mediocre football career but I just heard him interviewed on 2GB. What an absolute moron hahahaha