Regarding Josh Addo Carr

[Cappuccino]

Glad we gave him "permission"

Remember
Make a pledge u get sacked

 

[Bulldogsteve]

What's 550k these days...
Top wingers earn much more.

they dont actually

 

[capt obvious]

Send him to souths, will take jai arrow in return.

 

[Utility]

Because players are not employees they are contractors per the CBA. And the club owns the contract.

Legally the club can just terminate it. Maybe without due cause there is some recourse but the moment JAC went lining, the cause is there. But you know this, you're just trolling.

See ya JAC.

Seems to me if the club's legal eagles were totally confident of due cause, the club would have just torn up the contract. Why overcomplicate things?

Not trolling, by the way. I'd just prefer if the club stood by a guy who is clearly battling some demons and could still be an asset on and off the field.

 

[Craystar]

We need 2 big props and we are top 4 material

JAC is replaceable with either Wilson or Su'a

 

[The New Legacy]

I know for a fact that more than few of the boys are pissed off at him. They don't want him gone, they want him to work his arse off to repay the club.

Just like the idiot at school who gets every in trouble because they act up then they go around trying to make you laugh.

Him not being on the field for that last match cost us big.

 

[chemdog]

We need 2 big props and we are top 4 material

JAC is replaceable with either Wilson or Su'a

still light on wingers with Wilson, kiraz and Sua as our only wingers if ado carr does end up leaving.

 

[Doogie]

Seems to me if the club's legal eagles were totally confident of due cause, the club would have just torn up the contract. Why overcomplicate things?

Not trolling, by the way. I'd just prefer if the club stood by a guy who is clearly battling some demons and could still be an asset on and off the field.

Well. Clause 11a(ii) of the standard NRL playing agreement is a basis for termination (disrepute). 11b(x) as well. 11b(x) is an anti doping violation. Which refers to the WADA list. On which under Section 6(a) under non specified stimulants is cocaine.

Now under clause 11f (i to v) action can be anything from nothing to termination on the day with pay to that point.

So he can be terminated. No ifs or buts. The grounds are there to rip it up right now.

Same reason they could have sacked Topine on that wrestling day. because he was late to training. Clause 11b(vii).

So why do you not tear up his contract? Because of two reasons. The $600k does not disappear off our salary cap and the message you send to other players about how hard ass we are to take 11f(v). So best of both worlds, he has to go and you hope another club can take up the $$$'s.

But you know this. Trolling.

See ya JAC.

 

[1967]

I would of liked to see JAC stay .. not because I think I’m cool always being the minority like some …. mostly because it’ll weaken our squad and just strengthen some opposition club, plus he’s a freak try scorer and lord knows we could use the points, he’d be hard to replace .. plus he’ll owe us big time ..

But when you think big picture, he‘s backed the club into a corner … and because of that I don’t see how they can keep him .. all year they‘ve pushed …
“Club - “Team - “Individual ..

not only did he shit on this and choose individual … but he chose it on the eve of their most important game of the year. Maybe even 8 years …

‘’so how does our culture our ethics and that mantra stand moving forward … how does the rest of the team deep down feel about one of their brothers letting them down like that …

‘’if the club keep him .. isn’t that choosing individual against the team & club first mantra . do other players think f’k all that club team individual stuff it was all BS so I can shit over it to .. what does it say to the younger kids coming through the grades …

‘’Sorry JAC, but you’ve left the club no choice here bro … goodbye

 

[SARGE]

still light on wingers with Wilson, kiraz and Sua as our only wingers if ado carr does end up leaving.

Clark and Mazzone are options to bro

 

[Doogie]

Clark and Mazzone are options to bro

So is that Burton kid.

Misses a lot of tackles though.

 

[TalDog]

NRL 2024: Josh Addo-Carr set to be granted permission to leave Canterbury Bulldogs
Josh Addo-Carr’s future at the Bulldogs could be over as early as this week, with the Canterbury winger set to be granted formal permission to talk with rival clubs.

Michael Carayannis
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Brent Read
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David Riccio
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September 25, 2024 - 4:05PM

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Addo-Carr issued breach notice by NRL
NRL: Bulldogs star Josh Addo-Carr has been issued a breach notice by the NRL, after he allegedly tested positive for an illicit substance.
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Josh Addo-Carr could be a free agent as early as this week with the Bulldogs expected to grant the winger formal permission to talk with rival clubs.

It is understood clubs have already been sounded out about their potential interest in Addo-Carr should he be cut adrift by the Bulldogs for 2025.

That could happen within days with Canterbury expected to allow the NSW and Australian flyer to test the open market after informal discussions.

He has just 12 months left on his current deal worth about $500,000. The Bulldogs have already indicated they won’t be in a position to offer Addo-Carr a new deal in 2026. It means they would allow Addo-Carr to test the market and if he could secure his long-term future elsewhere they would be unlikely to stand in his way.

Addo-Carr’s agent Mario Tartak has already met with Bulldogs boss Phil Gould last Friday to discuss the 29-year-olds playing future.

Josh Addo-Carr could be a free agent as early as next week. (Photo by Robert Cianflone/Getty Images)
Josh Addo-Carr could be a free agent as early as next week. (Photo by Robert Cianflone/Getty Images)
The Dragons have already been mentioned as a possible destination for Addo-Carr however they most likely need to move winger Mikaele Ravalawa to help with their roster management. The Dragons have salary cap space to accommodate Addo-Carr.

Whichever club Addo-Carr goes to they will need to contend with a three game ban hanging over his head after he tested positive to cocaine in a road-side drug test.

Addo-Carr was issued with a breach notice - believed to propose a four match suspension and $15,000 fine - by the NRL on Tuesday. He has already served one match after missing Canterbury’s opening finals loss to Manly.

He maintains he has never taken any illicit substance and said as much when he met with the NRL’s integrity unit last week.

The fine portion of Addo-Carr’s latest sanction includes a $3000 suspended fine that was hanging over his head from last year’s Koori Knockout tournament.

Addo-Carr accepted a $682 fine and a three-month suspension from driving following the incident, which raised the ire of the Bulldogs and their all-powerful head of football Phil Gould.

He has also been over-looked for a Kangaroos spot having last played for Australia in their 2022 World Cup final win against Samoa.


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[SARGE]

NRL 2024: Josh Addo-Carr set to be granted permission to leave Canterbury Bulldogs
Josh Addo-Carr’s future at the Bulldogs could be over as early as this week, with the Canterbury winger set to be granted formal permission to talk with rival clubs.

Michael Carayannis
,
Brent Read
and
David Riccio
less than 2 brain cells combined
September 25, 2024 - 4:05PM

00:24
Addo-Carr issued breach notice by NRL
NRL: Bulldogs star Josh Addo-Carr has been issued a breach notice by the NRL, after he allegedly tested positive for an illicit substance.
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Josh Addo-Carr could be a free agent as early as this week with the Bulldogs expected to grant the winger formal permission to talk with rival clubs.

It is understood clubs have already been sounded out about their potential interest in Addo-Carr should he be cut adrift by the Bulldogs for 2025.

That could happen within days with Canterbury expected to allow the NSW and Australian flyer to test the open market after informal discussions.

He has just 12 months left on his current deal worth about $500,000. The Bulldogs have already indicated they won’t be in a position to offer Addo-Carr a new deal in 2026. It means they would allow Addo-Carr to test the market and if he could secure his long-term future elsewhere they would be unlikely to stand in his way.

Addo-Carr’s agent Mario Tartak has already met with Bulldogs boss Phil Gould last Friday to discuss the 29-year-olds playing future.

Josh Addo-Carr could be a free agent as early as next week. (Photo by Robert Cianflone/Getty Images)
Josh Addo-Carr could be a free agent as early as next week. (Photo by Robert Cianflone/Getty Images)
The Dragons have already been mentioned as a possible destination for Addo-Carr however they most likely need to move winger Mikaele Ravalawa to help with their roster management. The Dragons have salary cap space to accommodate Addo-Carr.

Whichever club Addo-Carr goes to they will need to contend with a three game ban hanging over his head after he tested positive to cocaine in a road-side drug test.

Addo-Carr was issued with a breach notice - believed to propose a four match suspension and $15,000 fine - by the NRL on Tuesday. He has already served one match after missing Canterbury’s opening finals loss to Manly.

He maintains he has never taken any illicit substance and said as much when he met with the NRL’s integrity unit last week.

The fine portion of Addo-Carr’s latest sanction includes a $3000 suspended fine that was hanging over his head from last year’s Koori Knockout tournament.

Addo-Carr accepted a $682 fine and a three-month suspension from driving following the incident, which raised the ire of the Bulldogs and their all-powerful head of football Phil Gould.

He has also been over-looked for a Kangaroos spot having last played for Australia in their 2022 World Cup final win against Samoa.


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It took 3 dickheads to write this crap?

 

[TalDog]

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Everyone wants credit for a bulldog’s story


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[GoblinSlayer]

Given the lack of factual information since the breach notice, the speculation in the media and elsewhere is starting to wear quite thin. I doubt too many people know what's really going on and the knowledge gap is being filled with endless fantasy and guessing games.

 

[Psycho Doggie]

You're right. We'd better nip this criminal element in the bud before he starts influencing other players. If we don't act now, next time it might be Max King getting done for jaywalking or something.

PS I'm sure Gus would have been thrilled if he'd taken it to court and put the club through months worth of additional negative headlines.

If he has a case he would be far from the first person with a legitimate case to not go the court option. The court process is a deterrent to people seeking actual justice, it is often very hard going, and detrimental to physical and mental health. People opt out just to avoid the stress.

 

[Utility]

Just like the idiot at school who gets every in trouble because they act up then they go around trying to make you laugh.

Him not being on the field for that last match cost us big.

Well. Clause 11a(ii) of the standard NRL playing agreement is a basis for termination (disrepute). 11b(x) as well. 11b(x) is an anti doping violation. Which refers to the WADA list. On which under Section 6(a) under non specified stimulants is cocaine.

Now under clause 11f (i to v) action can be anything from nothing to termination on the day with pay to that point.

So he can be terminated. No ifs or buts. The grounds are there to rip it up right now.

Same reason they could have sacked Topine on that wrestling day. because he was late to training. Clause 11b(vii).

So why do you not tear up his contract? Because of two reasons. The $600k does not disappear off our salary cap and the message you send to other players about how hard ass we are to take 11f(v). So best of both worlds, he has to go and you hope another club can take up the $$$'s.

But you know this. Trolling.

See ya JAC.

Cocaine is banned 'in competition' under the WADA list.

What is the ‘In-Competition’ period?
The In-Competition period commences at 11.59pm the night before a competition in which an athlete is scheduled to compete, through to the end of that competition and any sample collection process undertaken.

International Federations may apply to WADA for permission to change their ‘In-Competition’ period if they have a compelling justification. Athletes should check with their International Federation to ensure that their ‘In-Competition’ period aligns with the 2021 Code.

As for bringing the game into disrepute, I think that's a bit of a stretch given how common use of cocaine in the NRL is and how many players have been done for it.... I don't think it's as black and white as you're making out.

But whatevs. We can agree top disagree. Just don't say I'm trolling. That really stings!

 

[Utility]

If he has a case he would be far from the first person with a legitimate case to not go the court option. The court process is a deterrent to people seeking actual justice, it is often very hard going, and detrimental to physical and mental health. People opt out just to avoid the stress.

Exactly. Can't imagine the club would have been too thrilled about the matter being drawn out through the courts, either. And any new prospective club wouldn't want a court drama hanging over his head when he could just cop a $600 fine. Challenging it would be a no win situation, not to mention a lot more costly than just paying the fine.

 

[Wally D]

Hi all

I would like to know everyone’s take on what the club should do about JAC.

My personal view is that we should not sack him. He came to us from a top club at a time when we were at our lowest. That took guts and faith from him and I think as a club we owe him some level of loyalty in return.

We are a family club and sometimes people in our family make a mistake. We don’t automatically throw them out onto the street when it happens. I think because it’s his first time, we should focus on his welfare and providing him support to ensure he does not make the same mistake again.

That being said, he needs to be punished so that it is clear to him and everyone else that his behaviour is unacceptable and to deter others from doing the same thing. We need to have high standards and those standards need to be enforced. When people do not meet them, they need to be held accountable or else no one will respect the standards. The situation here is different from Latrell though, who had made multiple stupid mistakes and who got multiple weak slaps on the wrist.

I think a 3 or 4 match ban by the nrl is sufficient but in addition I also think the club should fine him something like $50,000 for the drug driving and another $50,000 for giving the club inaccurate information, with the money donated to a drug driving charity or similar. He should also be required to do some extra community work and obtain counselling.

If he doesn’t agree to accept the penalty, then he can go.

We should not punish our fans by prematurely getting rid of one our exciting and most marketable players.


interested to hear your thoughts

 

[enoughsaid]

How would u feel if hutch or Salmon did the same ?