Petrol prices

[Bob dog]

Nothing worse than nobody stopping the Russians and we all sit around paying two bucks a litre, next thing bread four bucks.
Joe could make some of his death threats, Trumps fire and Fury was a good one.

 

[senshidog]

Yep. Previously we imported oil then refined it ourselves, but we shut down all our refineries and started importing fuel from Singapore who refine it after importing the oil from the Middle East.

And that's where most are getting their oil from now. And to make matters worse, some rebel group attacked two of the larger oil refineries in Saudi Arabia, which reduces the supply and raises the cost more.

Yeah I saw that today. Well looks like $3 a litre is probably coming. *sigh*

Here's an interesting philosophical question for you. Are you half-homo, or are you half-straight?

I think the answer to that question lies in "do you look at the dicks in male to female porn, or avoid direct glances/only view lesbian porn".

 

[Pity Fool]

I see the bible more as a guide than evidence. It's a group of stories that may or may not be true. You choose to believe it and that's good, but it's not evidence any more than the Bhagavad Gita is evidence that ancient gods battled for earth, or Star Wars is evidence Jedi exist.

Writings without corroboration are just writings.

I'm not saying that's a bad thing. Faith is a good thing for many. But if people are convinced that the world is going to end and that we can't do anything about it, then they're less likely to actually do something about it.

Just a question I would like you to answer honestly, have you ever read the King James Version Holy Bible? I mean not just snippets of it that you may have been forced to in school, but have you actually read it from cover to cover not just once but many times over? I just want to understand your scepticism of the validity of the Bible and why you would deny it’s message.


The Bible is more than just a bunch of stories put together, I think you are cheapening it greatly by that statement. It is a book of history, it is a book of instruction, a book of prophesy and it is the word of God. What is so different about The Bible is that it is not a book written by one person who details their experience about God, the Bible consists of books written by different men covering 1400 years of history, the Bible is just a collection of these writings and when you look at how correlated all these writings were, separated by hundreds of years, add to that the different writing styles and the time and cultural differences being spoken of, the Bible is truly a work of historical importance and should be held in high regard.

 

[Dogmonster]

I had a quater of a tank of diesel in my truck and still put over $400 dollars in it, took son to game yesterday used a bit over a quater of a tank of premium in VF ssv redline. My prado has two diesel tanks also. And son has a VE V6 also i fuel. Unbelievable cost.

 

[Hacky McAxe]

Just a question I would like you to answer honestly, have you ever read the King James Version Holy Bible? I mean not just snippets of it that you may have been forced to in school, but have you actually read it from cover to cover not just once but many times over? I just want to understand your scepticism of the validity of the Bible and why you would deny it’s message.


The Bible is more than just a bunch of stories put together, I think you are cheapening it greatly by that statement. It is a book of history, it is a book of instruction, a book of prophesy and it is the word of God. What is so different about The Bible is that it is not a book written by one person who details their experience about God, the Bible consists of books written by different men covering 1400 years of history, the Bible is just a collection of these writings and when you look at how correlated all these writings were, separated by hundreds of years, add to that the different writing styles and the time and cultural differences being spoken of, the Bible is truly a work of historical importance and should be held in high regard.

Yep. Read the King James version several times when I was young helping out at my local Church and Christian Camp (yes I actually volunteered at Bible camp). There was a time I fully believed it, but times change.

But in regards to my statement saying "the bible is a collection of stories", it literally is and you pointed that out with the latter part of your paragraph. It's a collection of stories written by different men put together by the Church. Not going to get into the fact that the Church chose to remove so of those books and keep others. But the point is that they are stories written by men believed by many to be the word of God.

Is it the word of God? Maybe, maybe not. No one knows for sure. But like any history book, it's written by the people who were there. Writing their interpretation of what is happening based on the influence they had.

As I said, could be the word of God. But based on your own definition of how its definitely an accurate history book, the same would have to apply to the Quran.

 

[Pity Fool]

Yep. Read the King James version several times when I was young helping out at my local Church and Christian Camp (yes I actually volunteered at Bible camp). There was a time I fully believed it, but times change.

But in regards to my statement saying "the bible is a collection of stories", it literally is and you pointed that out with the latter part of your paragraph. It's a collection of stories written by different men put together by the Church. Not going to get into the fact that the Church chose to remove so of those books and keep others. But the point is that they are stories written by men believed by many to be the word of God.

Is it the word of God? Maybe, maybe not. No one knows for sure. But like any history book, it's written by the people who were there. Writing their interpretation of what is happening based on the influence they had.

As I said, could be the word of God. But based on your own definition of how its definitely an accurate history book, the same would have to apply to the Quran.

The Quran… I could see you throwing this at me from a mile away, very predictable indeed.



You can do your own research on this one just like I had to to determine the truth about that subject. You can start by focusing your research on Abraham and his two sons, Isaac and Ishmael, that is a great starting point to where your statement starts, and also you can focus your research on the Arch angel Gabriel visiting the Mary from the Holy Bible and the Arch angel Gabriel visiting Mohamed from the Quran.



You are not going to bait me into starting an argument with other believers first of all, and I cant actually believe you are coming at me from this perspective, it only shows how ill equiped you are in your understanding of faith and the massive differences between them.

No offence, but being someone that has read the KJV Bible many times you should know the difference, but being you don’t I fear that you have been easily deceived by lucifer like so many others that are of the world rather than being set apart.

I welcome your debate on this subject as you seem an intelligent bloke but intelligence never trumps faith because no man is smarter than our Creator.

 

[Hacky McAxe]

The Quran… I could see you throwing this at me from a mile away, very predictable indeed.



You can do your own research on this one just like I had to to determine the truth about that subject. You can start by focusing your research on Abraham and his two sons, Isaac and Ishmael, that is a great starting point to where your statement starts, and also you can focus your research on the Arch angel Gabriel visiting the Mary from the Holy Bible and the Arch angel Gabriel visiting Mohamed from the Quran.



You are not going to bait me into starting an argument with other believers first of all, and I cant actually believe you are coming at me from this perspective, it only shows how ill equiped you are in your understanding of faith and the massive differences between them.

No offence, but being someone that has read the KJV Bible many times you should know the difference, but being you don’t I fear that you have been easily deceived by lucifer like so many others that are of the world rather than being set apart.

I welcome your debate on this subject as you seem an intelligent bloke but intelligence never trumps faith because no man is smarter than our Creator.

Your last paragraph reminds me of the evolutionary debate between Ken Ham (Creationist) and Bill Nye (atheist) where they were asked what it would take to change their mind. Bill Nye said, "one piece of evidence". Ken Ham said, "there is nothing you could ever do that would change my mind". It's the faith mindset. The belief that you must be right and there is no chance you could ever be wrong.

In regards to the Quran point, it's an honest retort. I'm not trying to invoke a religious war. But if you say that your religious texts are irrefutable proof you are right, then why does that not apply to other religious texts?

Leaving the Quran out of it as there has been many different religious scriptures for various different religions over thousands of years. Some pre-dating the Bible. Why do you think that your text should be seen as evidence but the others not seen as evidence?

I'm not saying that the Christian religion is wrong, but I find it separative that the thought process is that the only way I could have left my religion is if I was deceived by Lucifer. It suggests that a world outside the Christian religion is not viable and not acceptable. And it's no different to me saying that people are religious because they're idiots.

Of course I wouldn't say that and it's not true. But that's how it comes across.

 

[GoTheDoggies]

 

[Pity Fool]

Your last paragraph reminds me of the evolutionary debate between Ken Ham (Creationist) and Bill Nye (atheist) where they were asked what it would take to change their mind. Bill Nye said, "one piece of evidence". Ken Ham said, "there is nothing you could ever do that would change my mind". It's the faith mindset. The belief that you must be right and there is no chance you could ever be wrong.

In regards to the Quran point, it's an honest retort. I'm not trying to invoke a religious war. But if you say that your religious texts are irrefutable proof you are right, then why does that not apply to other religious texts?

Leaving the Quran out of it as there has been many different religious scriptures for various different religions over thousands of years. Some pre-dating the Bible. Why do you think that your text should be seen as evidence but the others not seen as evidence?

I'm not saying that the Christian religion is wrong, but I find it separative that the thought process is that the only way I could have left my religion is if I was deceived by Lucifer. It suggests that a world outside the Christian religion is not viable and not acceptable. And it's no different to me saying that people are religious because they're idiots.

Of course I wouldn't say that and it's not true. But that's how it comes across.

I will reply properly to you another time as my reply will be in depth and I need to prepare for work tomorrow.

 

[Trendsetter]

Fuck.. I just came to complain that a tank of diesel was $118 2 weeks ago and today it cost me $170... but I seem to have walked into a religious debate.

Kind of feels awkward now..

 

[DinkumDog]

$100 a shot but at least you get driveway service…

 

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[The DoggFather]

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MOTHERFUCKERS!

 

[Psycho Doggie]

MOTHERFUCKERS!

I would love to see data from WW2, I've come across a number of stories from that time that would tend to indicate that something similar happened. The difference then is that most of the fuel being produced was for military use, so basically the taxpayer got hit by the oil companies, instead of the private citizen, but it still comes to the same thing.

 

[LFC Bulldogs]

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Opportunistic bastards looking to root the consumer.

 

[Hacky McAxe]

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Yep. The price increase is based on two things:

1) future predictions - if they think the price is going to increase soon they'll increase the price of petrol now to protect their profits due to lower consumption in future

2) greed - any excuse to make money

The interesting part is that oil went up to nearly US$130 per barrel but has steadily declined over the last week and is now below US$100 per barrel. So the price of petrol should be dropping.

 

[Natboy]

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I’d like to see the comparison of freight prices too