No Hooker plan

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i have a hooker plan tbh.
 

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I knew we shouldn't have played mbye at hooker it's a big ask , he did well while he kept up
 

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Can't blame mbye playing out of position in a gf!! Take my hat of to him!! Hasn't played for how long? Good job lad
 

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yes he would have he is 80 minutes of machine, we would have at least matched it all night, watch it again the dogs went downhill right when mbye got tired and was walking and then after he got taken off

not knocking mbye, its a tough ask to go 80
Yeah but our forwards did not get on top the whole time. I thought Mbye defended very very well.
 

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Mbye wasn't too bad but he wasn't cut out for it yet he needed more time at hooker to be effective, he amde some runs and darts but nothing fell into place
 

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Jackson should of played hooker
We were a mess out there when graham and Eastwood were kicking in our 5th we were in trouble
 

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It looks like you just have to pick a pass and send the ball away at hooker, but I'd say that specialist hookers are great at making the split second decisions. I won't say that Mbye was a dud tonight, but our forward pack were just a touch out of sync with him. Browne over-ran a couple of passes way before they were thrown and at times the defense was in the faces of every forward catching a pass. Every play starts with the hooker so losing that split second decision making that Ennis has had years to perfect can roll on and means nobody gets the ball in space. 2014 was a pretty big improvement on 2013 but it's a let down to have lost Ennis for the grand final. I hope Lichaa can fill the big shoes Ennis is leaving behind.
 

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Call me crazy. but after tonight i want this next year.
6. Mbye
7. Hodkinson
9. Reynolds
14. Lichaa
 

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Geez there's some morons here. Mbye was fine at hooker and who's to say he couldn't have played 80? Maybe it was simply Des not thinking he could.

Moses passed well most of the time and made a couple of good darts. I'm not saying he was as good as Ennis as he runs the plays better (still not great) but the backs stuffed up our attacks close to their line, not Moses.

I would have swapped him with Reynolds at stages though. To give Moses a rest from the tough defence in the middle and add another dimension to attack. I don't understand why Moses didn't kick either. From what I remember he's not that good and Reynolds did a good job anyway. Some repeat sets, a try and a 40/20. Facepalm to anyone dissing his kicking tonight. It was probably his best ever. Only a few average kicks out of plenty.
 

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It looks like you just have to pick a pass and send the ball away at hooker, but I'd say that specialist hookers are great at making the split second decisions. I won't say that Mbye was a dud tonight, but our forward pack were just a touch out of sync with him. Browne over-ran a couple of passes way before they were thrown and at times the defense was in the faces of every forward catching a pass. Every play starts with the hooker so losing that split second decision making that Ennis has had years to perfect can roll on and means nobody gets the ball in space. 2014 was a pretty big improvement on 2013 but it's a let down to have lost Ennis for the grand final. I hope Lichaa can fill the big shoes Ennis is leaving behind.
Well said. This is the key. Moses did ok but like you say, we were out of sync and I have to put that down to no Ennis. It's not that obvious but pass selection and quick thinking separate the good hookers from the average.
 

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I can't see Reynolds as a long term 9 prospect - not sure even about 6. I'd like to see Mbye on bench every game next year and be given more time at 9 and 6 as he did pretty well tonight, considering he was thrown in the deep end.
 

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Not much changed for me this year from the previous year. Our attack is still pedestrian and mostly impotent in opposition 20m. We were lucky with the finals draw as had we had to play cowboys, roosters or souths earlier we would have been bundled out anyway.
 

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Went to crap ... Just like we did when Ennis played half back instead of hooker against tigers who hadn't won a single game in 3 months... Wake up Des.. We know you're a teacher and you have favorites like Trex but not renewing Ennis's contract will ensure we are fodder for the whole NRL next year.
 

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Geez there's some morons here. Mbye was fine at hooker and who's to say he couldn't have played 80? Maybe it was simply Des not thinking he could
because the last thing we saw of him before being taken off was him was making a final effort to shut down a souths offload/half linebreak and then he was walking back in defence clearly a spent player

he was defending inside of hodkinson when souths worked the play to george burgess finding heaps of room in behind the play the ball where the hooker should be

again not knocking him, but knocking the situation to have him play until he was spent and not having a proper plan to manage him through the game

Coach Hazilla would have had reni on at 30 minutes, then mbye back on at 45-50min, reni on stand by if he was needed late in the game

for the record the hooker plan was jackson, but he too was tired
 

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It was clearly obvious that Hodko was playing on one leg. Josh Reynolds almost took all of the 5th tackle kicks into play.

But in saying that, Mbye's service out of hooker was bad. Particularly the start of the second half when he made some crucial errors. If we had Ennis, I believe we would have won.
 

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because the last thing we saw of him before being taken off was him was making a final effort to shut down a souths offload/half linebreak and then he was walking back in defence clearly a spent player

he was defending inside of hodkinson when souths worked the play to george burgess finding heaps of room in behind the play the ball where the hooker should be

again not knocking him, but knocking the situation to have him play until he was spent and not having a proper plan to manage him through the game

Coach Hazilla would have had reni on at 30 minutes, then mbye back on at 45-50min, reni on stand by if he was needed late in the game

for the record the hooker plan was jackson, but he too was tired
George Burgess's try to put them up 12-6 came down to Mbye's exhaustion and inexperience. The play before he made a bad play out of hooker where he passed to Finucane on the last (I think), and Burgess literally strolled through the middle where Mbye should have been there to stop him.
 

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Surprised Hodko wasn't considered at Hooker if its true how busted up he has been.

Mybe would have done more in attack...
 

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It was clear from the outset that we missed Ennis from the kick off.

Tolman went to dummy half twice in our first set of six. He even ran from dummy half once in that set.

Mybe isn't a hooker. He busted his arse off and I am proud of his efforts. But I think Reynolds needed to be hooker. Mybe would have put in a better kicking game...
 
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