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Apparently Titans offered him a contract but declined as way lower than expected... no idea what it was but for the right price this kid is worth. Sign him long term from 2023 and he is definitely an upgrade on Vaughan.

If Payne Haas is worth 1 mil a season, call me stupid but this guy ain't far off particularly with his form in the origin series. Maybe a deal similar to TPJ will get him over the line.
 

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700-800k and we'd probably have a strong chance. Haas is another level or two above Fotuaika. Haas isn't worth 1m a season. It's just what desperate clubs are willing to pay him. I'd be surprised if the Titans don't up their offer.
 

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Apparently Titans offered him a contract but declined as way lower than expected... no idea what it was but for the right price this kid is worth. Sign him long term from 2023 and he is definitely an upgrade on Vaughan.

If Payne Haas is worth 1 mil a season, call me stupid but this guy ain't far off particularly with his form in the origin series. Maybe a deal similar to TPJ will get him over the line.
lollllll don't compare Haas with Fotuaika. While Moeaki has been in decent form he's still a shadow of Haas and not worth anywhere near the same contract $$$ value.
 

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700-800k and we'd probably have a strong chance. Haas is another level or two above Fotuaika. Haas isn't worth 1m a season. It's just what desperate clubs are willing to pay him. I'd be surprised if the Titans don't up their offer.
The Titans have a bit of money invested in big name players. Fifita is on stupid money (1.1) but then you got Tino, Liu (who wouldn't have come cheap) and apparently they're going to offer Manu 1 mil.
 

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lollllll don't compare Haas with Fotuaika. While Moeaki has been in decent form he's still a shadow of Haas and not worth anywhere near the same contract $$$ value.
I didn't say they are comparable players. I said he isn't far off which is true.
 

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I didn't say they are comparable players. I said he isn't far off which is true.
I'd re-evaluate your stats or better yet go to spec savers. Moeaki is way off. I like the guy but not if you're going to say he is at the same level or near the same level as Haas.
 

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The Titans have a bit of money invested in big name players. Fifita is on stupid money (1.1) but then you got Tino, Liu (who wouldn't have come cheap) and apparently they're going to offer Manu 1 mil.
I'd be surprised if the Titans went after Manu. They have Brimson, Sexton and Fogarty ready to go in the spine with Jayden Campbell who's going to go close to pushing Brimson into the halves. Their next marquee will most likely be at hooker.
 

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I'd be surprised if the Titans went after Manu. They have Brimson, Sexton and Fogarty ready to go in the spine with Jayden Campbell who's going to go close to pushing Brimson into the halves. Their next marquee will most likely be at hooker.
They aren't going after Manu. It's just rumour and innuendo and that's it.
 

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Apparently Titans offered him a contract but declined as way lower than expected... no idea what it was but for the right price this kid is worth. Sign him long term from 2023 and he is definitely an upgrade on Vaughan.

If Payne Haas is worth 1 mil a season, call me stupid but this guy ain't far off particularly with his form in the origin series. Maybe a deal similar to TPJ will get him over the line.
Yes to Fotuaika but to compare him to Payne Haas is like a Toyota to a Mercedes. Payne Haas is every cent worth close to 1M a year, Fotuaika I have at 500k-600k.

In saying that, I’d rather Fotuaika since we need to accomodate spine players.

A pack consisting of 10. Vaughan 9.TBA 8.Fotuaika 11.TPJ 12.RFM 13.Thompson would be solid
 

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Throw the kitchen and the sink at him, his footwork at the line is absolutely outstanding.

I’m a huge fan...
He's played his best 2 games of the year by far against us. I'm pretty sure he won the Titans both games in the end against us.
 

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He's played his best 2 games of the year by far against us. I'm pretty sure he won the Titans both games in the end against us.
Yeah, particularly that first game, every time I see him he stands out, leg drive and deceptive pace, he’s the modern day front rower, like the opposite of Klemmer.
 

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I'd re-evaluate your stats or better yet go to spec savers. Moeaki is way off. I like the guy but not if you're going to say he is at the same level or near the same level as Haas.
Well 2144, if you want to bring stats into it lets do so.

Fotuaika
Appearances- 18
Avg Minutes - 50
Avg HU - 12.4
Avg Metres - 145
Avg PCM per game - 53
Avg Tackles - 26
Offloads - 22
Tackle Effiency - 94.7%

Haas
Appearances- 16
Avg Minutes - 63
Avg HU - 15.2
Avg Metres - 168
Avg PCM per game - 74
Avg Tackles - 35
Offloads - 8
Tackle Effiency - 97.3%

I'm not saying he is on the same level (I called out specifically he isn't) and hence salary expectations would reflect that, but please stop being a negative ****.
 

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Well 2144, if you want to bring stats into it lets do so.

Fotuaika
Appearances- 18
Avg Minutes - 50
Avg HU - 12.4
Avg Metres - 145
Avg PCM per game - 53
Avg Tackles - 26
Offloads - 22
Tackle Effiency - 94.7%

Haas
Appearances- 16
Avg Minutes - 63
Avg HU - 15.2
Avg Metres - 168
Avg PCM per game - 74
Avg Tackles - 35
Offloads - 8
Tackle Effiency - 97.3%

I'm not saying he is on the same level (I called out specifically he isn't) and hence salary expectations would reflect that, but please stop being a negative ****.
We can see going by your stats why Haas should be worth near a million and Moeaki should be given $500k LOL, i'd very much welcome Moeaki for around $350-400k dw.
 

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We can see going by your stats why Haas should be worth near a million and Moeaki should be given $500k LOL, i'd very much welcome Moeaki dw.
I'd disagree but that is purely based on the makeup of our squad. Lets say Haas is 1 mil and Moeaki is 750k, I'm still taking Moeaki.

We need guys that are going to throw offloads (22 vs 8) and a guy that plays shorter stints with greater impact in his hitups.
 

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Well 2144, if you want to bring stats into it lets do so.

Fotuaika
Appearances- 18
Avg Minutes - 50
Avg HU - 12.4
Avg Metres - 145
Avg PCM per game - 53
Avg Tackles - 26
Offloads - 22
Tackle Effiency - 94.7%

Haas
Appearances- 16
Avg Minutes - 63
Avg HU - 15.2
Avg Metres - 168
Avg PCM per game - 74
Avg Tackles - 35
Offloads - 8
Tackle Effiency - 97.3%

I'm not saying he is on the same level (I called out specifically he isn't) and hence salary expectations would reflect that, but please stop being a negative ****.
Fotuaika is a quality player no doubt, but the stats will tell one story, but don’t tell the story on how many players each attracts and requires to bring them down which in-turn creates room on the edges.

Haas longer minutes also allows a forward rotation to be fresher, but see your point on comparing the data, they are not light years apart.

Id take him for sure, but not at the expense of a quality 9.
 

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Well 2144, if you want to bring stats into it lets do so.

Fotuaika
Appearances- 18
Avg Minutes - 50
Avg HU - 12.4
Avg Metres - 145
Avg PCM per game - 53
Avg Tackles - 26
Offloads - 22
Tackle Effiency - 94.7%

Haas
Appearances- 16
Avg Minutes - 63
Avg HU - 15.2
Avg Metres - 168
Avg PCM per game - 74
Avg Tackles - 35
Offloads - 8
Tackle Effiency - 97.3%

I'm not saying he is on the same level (I called out specifically he isn't) and hence salary expectations would reflect that, but please stop being a negative ****.
(averages per game)
Haas - Fotuaika
63 minutes - 51 minutes
0 tries - 0.1 tries
0.1 line breaks - 0.3 line breaks
36 tackles (0.6)
- 26 tackles (0.5)
3.4 tackle breaks - 2.7 tackle breaks
1 miss tackle - 1.4 miss tackles
0.5 offloads - 1.2 offloads
0.3 errors
- 0.4 errors
0.2 turnover tackles - 0 turnover tackles
168 metres gained (2.6) - 145 metres gained (2.8)

I also had a look at AFB's (reportedly on 850k) stats and Fotuaika is very comparable to him.
 

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(averages per game)
Haas - Fotuaika
63 minutes - 51 minutes
0 tries - 0.1 tries
0.1 line breaks - 0.3 line breaks
36 tackles (0.6)
- 26 tackles (0.5)
3.4 tackle breaks - 2.7 tackle breaks
1 miss tackle - 1.4 miss tackles
0.5 offloads - 1.2 offloads
0.3 errors
- 0.4 errors
0.2 turnover tackles - 0 turnover tackles
168 metres gained (2.6) - 145 metres gained (2.8)

I also had a look at AFB's (reportedly on 850k) stats and Fotuaika is very comparable to him.
Looks good to me. We'd have to be getting a shit load of value from our min wage players in that instance. Thommo, Elliott, Jacko and TPJ are all contracted for 2023 and have not come cheap.
 
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