Milo Yiannopoulos?

[Wahesh]

Yep. The trouble started because another extremist group turned up and started trouble. If the left group doesn't protest or the right group doesn't turn up then the violence doesn't happen. They both have themselves to blame.

Can someone please tell me why ANYONE is giving this, as Guido Hatzis would put it, "Pommy Poof" the time of day? Fark me.

 

[Hacky McAxe]

Can someone please tell me why ANYONE is giving this, as Guido Hatzis would put it, "Pommy Poof" the time of day? Fark me.

It's primarily reactionary. Milo trolls, the left wing people complain which annoys the right wing conservatives so much that they support him, so in retaliation the left wing people complain even more and start protesting, so the right wing conservatives support him more.

It's a smart PR campaign. The funny part is that it would all fizzle out if the left wing groups just said "He's a troll, just ignore him". Instead they're throwing petrol on the fire by trying to shut him down and saying that he shouldn't be allowed to speak.

 

[Rodzilla]

I'm surprised its taken this long for a fight to break out. These thugs are pretty quick to attack on their keyboards

I don't normally comment on facebook but when I do I always get attacked if I state a different opinion to the majority.

For example there was a video of a black woman who felt disadvantaged for being black .. Saying she was mistaken for a black stone statue one day on a school excursion in a museum..and that racism is bad Yadda yadda yadda..

In the comments the majority were saying 'but youre beautiful inside and out regardless of your skin colour"
Or
Racism is disgusting etcc


I said" if Australia was truly a racist country then no blacks, Asians, wogs would be employed, be allowed to vote, sit in a pub,sit at the front of a bus, be given equal government payouts etc.. This is getting old"

Well... I got told I was racist!, that I had no idea,
That I'm a privileged white woman who talks shit and I'm the problem with why the world is such a fucked up place etc...

I wasn't trying to be dismissive of insensitive but I live in this world too and have my own personal opinions , not saying racism doesn't exist but not to the extent that they're making out. FFS she got told she looked like a black statue.. And??? Harden the fuck up that's not racism, that's an observation by an insensitive prick.. You get those

to be fair you do talk shit and you know you were trying to start something there, tbh the country is less racist than those people think but more racist than you think, just a few years ago there was a stop the boats situation which was racist because nobody tried to stop the planes as well ffs

 

[Bulldog_NJ]

Milo is an intelligent and articulate man, who breaks the mould in terms of how an openly gay Gen Yer thinks. I happen to agree with him on most things, and his delivery, pardon the pun, is amazing. The truth hurts.

 

[Flanagun]

Milo is an intelligent and articulate man, who breaks the mould in terms of how an openly gay Gen Yer thinks. I happen to agree with him on most things, and his delivery, pardon the pun, is amazing. The truth hurts.

Milo is a complete hypocrite who argues against things he does himself. Anyone who looks to someone so confused to provide insight is pretty damn confused themselves. The truth hurts.

Also his simplistic blaming of the left for societal problems which have arisen as a result of the repression of the right is extremely simplistic. As far as "intellectuals" go, he's a pretty lightweight one IMO. Genuine intellectuals seek truth, he hides from it when it doesn't suit his agenda.

He's at very least a confused, disingenuous and socially reckless person.

 

[Dawgfather]

I like how those lefties came out and sparked the brawls down in Melbourne but all the press got outraged about was a gay jewish man with a black husband who offers some opinions that are deemed controversial because no one else offers them in the media.

 

[Hacky McAxe]

Milo is an intelligent and articulate man, who breaks the mould in terms of how an openly gay Gen Yer thinks. I happen to agree with him on most things, and his delivery, pardon the pun, is amazing. The truth hurts.

I believe the truth in this case is subjective. There is some things that he's very accurate on especially when it comes to the media's treatment of him. He's often labelled a Nazi and members of the media even list him as saying and doing things that he never did. He does openly attack people and then denies it though. One example was when he called a black actress a monkey then deleted the tweet and denied he did it.

He is right about many issues with modern groups, but he paints things with a wide brush. For example, he openly states problems with modern feminism, but he says that all feminism is cancer and equates all feminists to man hating baby killers. He targets Muslim extremism but states that all Muslims are extremists.

His key problem is that he can't differentiate between moderation and extremism.

 

[CaptainJackson]

Yep. The trouble started because another extremist group turned up and started trouble. If the left group doesn't protest or the right group doesn't turn up then the violence doesn't happen. They both have themselves to blame.

What's wrong with protesting as far as its just protesting?

Many of our employment rights have come from protesting

Many of our civil liberties across all races has come from protesting

Again what's wrong with protesting? The neo Nazis showed Up, without tickets to milos event, with the intent to start trouble

 

[CaptainJackson]

His key problem is that he can't differentiate between moderation and extremism.

That's not his problem, that's his selling point and he knows it's his selling point.

 

[CroydonDog]

What's wrong with protesting as far as its just protesting?

Many of our employment rights have come from protesting

Many of our civil liberties across all races has come from protesting

Again what's wrong with protesting? The neo Nazis showed Up, without tickets to milos event, with the intent to start trouble

+1.

Thing is, people live in their comfortable world full of rights and entitlement, totalling ignorant, of choosing to ignore, how many of those freedoms were actually achieved.

 

[Flanagun]

I like how those lefties came out and sparked the brawls down in Melbourne but all the press got outraged about was a gay jewish man with a black husband who offers some opinions that are deemed controversial because no one else offers them in the media.

Yeah and I suppose those extreme right militant groups had nothing to do with the violence. They were just holding hands and singing protest tunes right? Knock off the simplistic bullshit. You're only preaching to the converted. None of the rest of us will buy into your agenda driven nonsense man.

 

[Flanagun]

I believe the truth in this case is subjective. There is some things that he's very accurate on especially when it comes to the media's treatment of him. He's often labelled a Nazi and members of the media even list him as saying and doing things that he never did. He does openly attack people and then denies it though. One example was when he called a black actress a monkey then deleted the tweet and denied he did it.

He is right about many issues with modern groups, but he paints things with a wide brush. For example, he openly states problems with modern feminism, but he says that all feminism is cancer and equates all feminists to man hating baby killers. He targets Muslim extremism but states that all Muslims are extremists.

His key problem is that he can't differentiate between moderation and extremism.

I agree in a general sense, but Captain Jackson's amendment to your statement is an important revision well made I think. He's a reckless, self serving fool and that's obvious. I don't see why people try to be diplomatic about it. His behaviour is reckless and irresponsible. He is actively encouraging dangerous and disingenuous people because it boosts his damn profile. What an arsehole!

 

[Hacky McAxe]

What's wrong with protesting as far as its just protesting?

Many of our employment rights have come from protesting

Many of our civil liberties across all races has come from protesting

Again what's wrong with protesting? The neo Nazis showed Up, without tickets to milos event, with the intent to start trouble

Nothing wrong with protesting, but when you're turning up to a show and saying that people shouldn't be allowed to speak if they don't agree with you, then getting into a fight and attacking police officers when they try to break it up (yes, both sides attacked police), then you're not exactly doing the right thing.

 

[Hacky McAxe]

+1.

Thing is, people live in their comfortable world full of rights and entitlement, totalling ignorant, of choosing to ignore, how many of those freedoms were actually achieved.

I definitely don't have a problem with protests, but the protest served only one purpose. It was there to stop a person from freely speaking. I don't agree with Milo but I don't think we should be allowed to demand that his show be shut down just 'cause we don't agree with him. He's not the one inciting violence here and unless he actually comes forward and demands that his followers start a war, then I don't see why we should fight so hard to shut him up. It just makes a martyr of him.

 

[CaptainJackson]

Nothing wrong with protesting, but when you're turning up to a show and saying that people shouldn't be allowed to speak if they don't agree with you, then getting into a fight and attacking police officers when they try to break it up (yes, both sides attacked police), then you're not exactly doing the right thing.

We're not the free society you like to paint Hacky, we have anti-discrimination laws, defamation laws, profanity laws, etc. So our society has in it's laws limitations on acceptable public speech. You may believe in free speech but our laws don't

As I said his Perth show had no incidents, there were just protests from those who disagree with Milo.

Melbourne is the hot bed of "leftist" protestors and some KNOWN extreme right wing ring leaders, TBC, Soldiers of Odin, Reclaim Australia, UPF. These known right wing leaders are not your law abiding types, they're the types who turn up to cause trouble and then claim victim status when they get their arses handed to them.

Again this protest would have been peaceful if not for these nazi wannabes turning up to cause trouble.

 

[Hacky McAxe]

I agree in a general sense, but Captain Jackson's amendment to your statement is an important revision well made I think. He's a reckless, self serving fool and that's obvious. I don't see why people try to be diplomatic about it. His behaviour is reckless and irresponsible. He is actively encouraging dangerous and disingenuous people because it boosts his damn profile. What an arsehole!

He's definitely an arsehole. He's smart about it too. He doesn't encourage his followers to do anything, and he has even spoken out against them in regard to a few things (the attacks on Leslie Jones for example), but he's also cautious not to cut down all the behaviour and he thrives off people fighting.

If no one tried to shut him down he'd just be your average speaker who passes through and no one cares. It's the constant attempts to shut him down and label him a Nazi that is making him even more popular.

 

[Flanagun]

Nothing wrong with protesting, but when you're turning up to a show and saying that people shouldn't be allowed to speak if they don't agree with you, then getting into a fight and attacking police officers when they try to break it up (yes, both sides attacked police), then you're not exactly doing the right thing.

Americans place too much emphasis on free speech and not enough on truth. Perhaps that's why it is such a confused, misinformed country. People should be able to speak opinions but using a broad brush to equate entire ideological movements to cancer is just sheer, attention seeking idiocy. Milo isn't about free speech. Speech is still relatively free. he's about reckless, mean spirited and self serving provocation. Anyone who engages in a violent act should be accountable, but the suggestion protesting was a repression of free speech is dumb tbh. Saying someone shouldn't be saying something isn't violating free speech. Locking someone in a cell for the words they speak would be.

 

[Flanagun]

We're not the free society you like to paint Hacky, we have anti-discrimination laws, defamation laws, profanity laws, etc. So our society has in it's laws limitations on acceptable public speech. You may believe in free speech but our laws don't

As I said his Perth show had no incidents, there were just protests from those who disagree with Milo.

Melbourne is the hot bed of "leftist" protestors and some KNOWN extreme right wing ring leaders, TBC, Soldiers of Odin, Reclaim Australia, UPF. These known right wing leaders are not your law abiding types, they're the types who turn up to cause trouble and then claim victim status when they get their arses handed to them.

Again this protest would have been peaceful if not for these nazi wannabes turning up to cause trouble.

You're on fire today mate!

 

[Nasheed]

You niggas are discounting the fact that left wing / antifa are literally out to looks for violence and a fight. They want anarchy and to break down the ‘white society’ towards communist or socialist goals. Stop thinking they are peace loving. Someone who was ex antics wrote an article the other week warning about it.

 

[Flanagun]

He's definitely an arsehole. He's smart about it too. He doesn't encourage his followers to do anything, and he has even spoken out against them in regard to a few things (the attacks on Leslie Jones for example), but he's also cautious not to cut down all the behaviour and he thrives off people fighting.

If no one tried to shut him down he'd just be your average speaker who passes through and no one cares. It's the constant attempts to shut him down and label him a Nazi that is making him even more popular.

They may be enhancing his notoriety....but let's not forget it is a conservative e-rag that first gave him a platform in the first place. Id say the rise of the alt right has more to do with his popularity than the reactions of the left. If people deliberately seek to provoke, some will bight. That's just human nature. He exploits it expertly, but very recklessly IMO. Anyway, I don't really agree it is the left that has given him his platform.