News Mid Air plane crash in the US

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Social media platforms are an open forum for idiots to make up wild theories and for even bigger idiots to believe them. Unfortunately, POTUS doesn't help the situation by floating theories... but he doesn't know how to be diplomatic or empathetic. In any case I find it very hard to believe he is in anyway responsible, but just as he has jumped on the left (in a subtle way), watch for the left to jump on him. The world we live in is broken. We used to have common enemies, and now our enemies are more often than not our fellow countryman
 

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Trump stated that they don't yet know the cause of the crash, but both Trump and JD Vance have suggested that the crash could be due to the FAA DEI hiring policies.

He also said, "we are all one family" right before blaming Obama and Biden for the accident.
 

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Trump stated that they don't yet know the cause of the crash, but both Trump and JD Vance have suggested that the crash could be due to the FAA DEI hiring policies.

He also said, "we are all one family" right before blaming Obama and Biden for the accident.
It wasn't just FLAFOTUS and Sofaboy - it was a conga line. I saw some of the presser and for the first time I had to turn it off.

Mind blowing...
 

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All politicians have some level of opportunism, but Trump is the worst case I have seen. Any tragedy he immediately manipulates it for his gain. It's horrible to see him constantly bring up grieving families in front of an audience and use them to get praise. And everytime his supporters defend it.

I remember the incident at the federal military graveyard while he was campaigning. He went to carry out a photo op with the families of the soldiers that died during the Afghanistan withdrawal. A staff member of the military graveyard tried to stop him saying that it's illegal to carry out campaign photo ops in the graveyard, and Trump's staff shoved her out of the way, took the photo, put it on social media, then Trump called the staff member a "Radical lefty"

And all his supporters defended his actions.

Even during his after-inaugeration party, he brought up families of the grieving families of Hamas hostages that died and said that they lost their kids because of Biden. He said that their family members would be alive if he wasn't robbed of the 2020 election. Again, this is just after his inaugeration. He has already won the election, and he used the grieving families to once again attack Biden and the Democrats.

It just doesn't make sense to me. People praising this kind of thing are either complete bastards, or they've just been so brainwashed that they think this kind of treatment of human beings is acceptable.
Trumpism, Trumps version of Cult of Personality. His followers think everything he does is for the good of them, when it’s actually for the good of him. He preys on their fears, doubts, and their egos. Americans who voted for him are too wrapped up in themselves to see the broader picture outside their own world. Without naming any names, we have a perfect example of that type of person on this forum. I’m sure you know who I’m referring too.
 
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Of course now he’s an aviation expert. Not.
‘Elevation’ - not even a correct term.
This man is the ultimate W⚓, it is simply not possible to defend his verbal diarrhoea, no matter your political stripes. He’s a disgrace who should be muzzled.
 

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Of course now he’s an aviation expert. Not.
‘Elevation’ - not even a correct term.
This man is the ultimate W⚓, it is simply not possible to defend his verbal diarrhoea, no matter your political stripes. He’s a disgrace who should be muzzled.
Online has been interesting. Buyers regret has just started trending. And wait for it, he just signed an executive orders to.... appoint an acting director if the FAA after he sacked the last one.
 

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Was listening to an entertaining ABC News interview on the way to work. They interviewed a US Aviation Consultant and it basically went:

Reporter: "Trump suggested that the helicopter could have manouvered out of the way"

Consultant: "Trump is an idiot. To suggest that a helicopter could move seconds from disaster is just stupid"

Reporter: ".... ok, Trump also suggested that the accident may have been caused by unqualified people being in aviation roles. Is there any evidence of that?"

Consultant: "Let's talk about an unqualified person currently sitting in the white house"
 

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Without knowing what exactly happened it feels like the helicopter is at fault, the plane had a set path and they said to land it at that airport required specific training, either way its a real tragedy and one thing is for certain the investigation will be huge.
 

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Without knowing what exactly happened it feels like the helicopter is at fault, the plane had a set path and they said to land it at that airport required specific training, either way its a real tragedy and one thing is for certain the investigation will be huge.
Yeah, early investigations are suggesting that it could have been the helicopter at fault. They don't have the black boxes yet but audio between the traffic controller and helicopter have the helicopter pilot saying he could see the passanger plane and he confirmed that he would keep "visual separation", meaning that the pilot would watch the plane approach and keep his distance to avoid collision.

But there's still so many unknowns. The plane and the helicopter both have anti-collision systems that should prevent this sort of thing from happening. Maybe the anti-collision system messed up. Maybe the helicopter thought the plane was approaching a different runway. Maybe the helicopter systems failed. So many variables.
 

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Yeah, early investigations are suggesting that it could have been the helicopter at fault. They don't have the black boxes yet but audio between the traffic controller and helicopter have the helicopter pilot saying he could see the passanger plane and he confirmed that he would keep "visual separation", meaning that the pilot would watch the plane approach and keep his distance to avoid collision.

But there's still so many unknowns. The plane and the helicopter both have anti-collision systems that should prevent this sort of thing from happening. Maybe the anti-collision system messed up. Maybe the helicopter thought the plane was approaching a different runway. Maybe the helicopter systems failed. So many variables.
Didn't hear about audio you referred too, just makes it more confusing and yes, could be human error or a tech fail.
 

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Online has been interesting. Buyers regret has just started trending. And wait for it, he just signed an executive orders to.... appoint an acting director if the FAA after he sacked the last one.
Shouldn’t have even gotten that far.
And that’s no left/right bullshit or talking about picking the lesser of two evils blah blah blah. The man is deeply unqualified and hugely flawed. He proved it the first time Americans fell for his ruse and then they fell for it again. I’ve got friends at American Airlines who have to face the families of the dead and overnight their shock and grief has turned to anger with this idiot - their ‘leader’ saying he knows what happened (he doesn’t) and that it should’ve been easy to avoid (no-one knows until a thorough investigation is conducted). He can’t and won’t but seriously needs to STFU.
 

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Yeah, early investigations are suggesting that it could have been the helicopter at fault. They don't have the black boxes yet but audio between the traffic controller and helicopter have the helicopter pilot saying he could see the passanger plane and he confirmed that he would keep "visual separation", meaning that the pilot would watch the plane approach and keep his distance to avoid collision.

But there's still so many unknowns. The plane and the helicopter both have anti-collision systems that should prevent this sort of thing from happening. Maybe the anti-collision system messed up. Maybe the helicopter thought the plane was approaching a different runway. Maybe the helicopter systems failed. So many variables.
I was reading an ex-military helicopter pilot suggesting what happened. She said perhaps the pilot had sights on another plane, as Reagan airport is notorious for lots of lights and aerial traffic.
 
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