News Luke Thompson injury

[Brendan7]

I feel bad for Thompson. Not just for the suspensions and injuries he's copped. But he's also been heavily targeted by fan criticism. I'd take Thompson 7 days a week over Napa or Tony Williams.

The effort has been there, but the crucial thing for him I think was always going to be the ball service. He's a rare forward with incredible pace. Since he's been here we haven't had a ball player that's been able to serve up a pass frequently that'd let him use that pace. This season with Mahoney I thought we'd finally get to see him use his athletic ability to advantage finally and he's now copped this foot injury.

The issue is the price, at no point even when I watched him in England as I go for his side over there...did I say this bloke is an 850k a season player. Half that amount and fans would be more forgiving, but its the fact he's on 800k plus and he hasn't delivered, when you get on those amounts you have to deliver. It is also why fans as losing patience with Pangai and he HAS to deliver this year, at the moment he's very overpaid.

 

[iDoggiesFan]

So apparently we can’t get salary cap dispensation from a training injury yet the Roosters are seeking it for Crichton.

I think we all know how this plays out…

 

[Brendan7]

So apparently we can’t get salary cap dispensation from a training injury yet the Roosters are seeking it for Crichton.

I think we all know how this plays out…

It isn't some conspiracy mate.

You can only apply for dispensation when injuries occur in REP GAMES (including All stars, etc), not training, not other games. Crighton is slightly different but it will be refused anyway, it's in that grey area of how much of it is an injury and how much is external.

If the NRL put in this allowance for training do you realise how much it would be abused? You'd have every club asking for it 10 times a week.

 

[DinkumDog]

The issue is the price, at no point even when I watched him in England as I go for his side over there...did I say this bloke is an 850k a season player. Half that amount and fans would be more forgiving, but its the fact he's on 800k plus and he hasn't delivered, when you get on those amounts you have to deliver. It is also why fans as losing patience with Pangai and he HAS to deliver this year, at the moment he's very overpaid.

You can’t blame the player for their salary.
That’s a management issue.
I understand why we offered Thommo big bucks - we needed to attract players once we got through the cap dramas / backended deals. Cotric was in the same boat. All those guys did was accept a juicy offer and I bet almost everyone would if offered the same.

 

[iDoggiesFan]

It isn't some conspiracy mate.

You can only apply for dispensation when injuries occur in REP GAMES (including All stars, etc), not training, not other games. Crighton is slightly different but it will be refused anyway, it's in that grey area of how much of it is an injury and how much is external.

If the NRL put in this allowance for training do you realise how much it would be abused? You'd have every club asking for it 10 times a week.

Makes complete sense and I’m not arguing that we should get dispensation at all. But if the NRL somehow allows the Chooks to do so, which in all likelihood they will, then the games a fucking rort.

 

[InGusWeTrust]

I'd be looking at the top sides. Hear me out and but someone like Liam Knight from Souths may be attainable. Has size too nice offload so he'd be a nice like for like for Thompson. Souths have so many props coming through they have 5 ahead.

A story about him suffering from mental issues came out only days ago, involving alcohol abuse iirc.

I’ve already looked at all the FRFs and can’t see any team letting one that’s in their 17 go. Why would they? I even looked at guys like Makatoa, Ese’Ese etc. Guys on the fringe of their team. Makatoa is in the Eels team for round 1 hence clearly in their best 17 according to their coach. If you look even further down the pecking order you have guys like Ogden, who aren’t going to be better than giving a young guy a shot.

 

[Brendan7]

Makes complete sense and I’m not arguing that we should get dispensation at all. But if the NRL somehow allows the Chooks to do so, which in all likelihood they will, then the games a fucking rort.

They won't let the Roosters get it. Not this time will open a can of worms, every second player will claim mental illness.

 

[InGusWeTrust]

The issue is the price, at no point even when I watched him in England as I go for his side over there...did I say this bloke is an 850k a season player. Half that amount and fans would be more forgiving, but its the fact he's on 800k plus and he hasn't delivered, when you get on those amounts you have to deliver. It is also why fans as losing patience with Pangai and he HAS to deliver this year, at the moment he's very overpaid.

Really? I don’t remember clearly but I’m sure he scored a heap of tries in his previous year at St. Helens. His speed and agility for a front rower is what was exciting about signing him.

 

[Brendan7]

A story about him suffering from mental issues came out only days ago, involving alcohol abuse iirc.

I’ve already looked at all the FRFs and can’t see any team letting one that’s in their 17 go. Why would they? I even looked at guys like Makatoa, Ese’Ese etc. Guys on the fringe of their team. Makatoa is in the Eels team for round 1 hence clearly in their best 17 according to their coach. If you look even further down the pecking order you have guys like Ogden, who aren’t going to be better than giving a young guy a shot.

I'm not across what happens at Souths. Was only looking purely from a footy side of things. If he's fine, we'd only need him to be alright for this year. Look at this stage it's going to be hard to get a front rower that isn't depth at best but maybe that's all we need just a bigger body.

 

[Brendan7]

Really? I don’t remember clearly but I’m sure he scored a heap of tries in his previous year at St. Helens. His speed and agility for a front rower is what was exciting about signing him.

He was okay, but St Helens had an amazing side that year. But you look at the games against the top sides that year and he wasn't anywhere near as effective, he was good don't get me wrong but he wasn't 850k a season good if you know what I mean

 

[Brendan7]

You can’t blame the player for their salary.
That’s a management issue.
I understand why we offered Thommo big bucks - we needed to attract players once we got through the cap dramas / backended deals. Cotric was in the same boat. All those guys did was accept a juicy offer and I bet almost everyone would if offered the same.

You still have to perform if you do sign those deals. Do I love it no, but fans get the you know what's if players are overpaid and fail to perform.

 

[CMP]

I would be hitting the Tigers up about Alex Seyfarth. Not a world beater. (At the moment we cannot be choosy)but looks to be a solid player with a bit of mongrel in him. He is down the list with them and unlikely to play much. He could fill a hole.

 

[dhoo8450]

He played against a Canberra team missing more than 10 first graders and their entire starting pack, so did he really excel?
against the Sharks did he stand out? Or is it that we have set the bar so low that a couple of tackles and a few hit ups constitutes “a good game” and “dominance”

It's obvious you don't like Thompson but fuck me, do you need to personally respond to every single post saying something positive about him?

 

[2144superman]

It's obvious you don't like Thompson but fuck me, do you need to personally respond to every single post saying something positive about him?

Pussio

 

[InGusWeTrust]

It isn't some conspiracy mate.

You can only apply for dispensation when injuries occur in REP GAMES (including All stars, etc), not training, not other games. Crighton is slightly different but it will be refused anyway, it's in that grey area of how much of it is an injury and how much is external.

If the NRL put in this allowance for training do you realise how much it would be abused? You'd have every club asking for it 10 times a week.

Irrelevant and it couldn’t be abused if implemented properly. Simple reason being if you say player x has y injury and will be out for z length of time, they have to be out that long, end of story. So how can they abuse this? If you do it 10 times a week as you say, there won’t be enough players for a comp after a month lol.

If they allow compensation for Crichton and not others it’s complete BS. Even if it’s proven to be a medical condition from no fault of his own, so what? The result is still the same to our situation in that we have a player injured through no fault of his own. We know he’ll miss the season though, whereas Crichton’s time out is undetermined. And Crichton is rumoured to have done something that caused the onset of his ailment. If a player becomes ill or injured from doing drugs, being negligent etc, then no, there shouldn’t be compensation, but for most other cases why not? Look at Dragons and their boy Ramsay. Ruled out for the season through no fault of his own, but just bad luck in acquiring a serious gastrointestinal disease. AFAIK they won’t get compo for that which is ridiculous. Surely them being able to sign someone up to the value of Ramsay’s contract is fair?

 

[InGusWeTrust]

I would be hitting the Tigers up about Alex Seyfarth. Not a world beater. (At the moment we cannot be choosy)but looks to be a solid player with a bit of mongrel in him. He is down the list with them and unlikely to play much. He could fill a hole.

I’d rather ask the Knights to loan us Hethro back, but I don’t see them acquiescing. A new season starts tomorrow, few clubs if any will think they have a decent prop to spare.

 

[DinkumDog]

You still have to perform if you do sign those deals. Do I love it no, but fans get the you know what's if players are overpaid and fail to perform.

‘Fans’ are all Monday morning experts though.
If I got offered the job as CEO of Qantas for $15m/year and wasn’t at that level I’d still accept the job for the money. If I can’t perform at that level that’s partially my fault for accepting a job I can’t do, but it’s mainly a governance failure for offering it to an unsuitable candidate. We can’t hate the bloke for taking a great offer to set himself and his partner up, it’s completely normal. Maybe our expectations were too high but when you combine that with him getting the rough end of the pineapple in between injury, suspension, Covid, family problems etc - sure, it hasn’t worked out as we’d wanted it to, but it doesn’t make it his fault either.

 

[CQDog]

Pussio

you’ve got the Thommo dick riders on your case lol

 

[TwinTurbo]

Irrelevant and it couldn’t be abused if implemented properly. Simple reason being if you say player x has y injury and will be out for z length of time, they have to be out that long, end of story. So how can they abuse this? If you do it 10 times a week as you say, there won’t be enough players for a comp after a month lol.

How can they abuse it, it's pretty simple actually. Say, Chooks player number 30 who hasn't played an NRL game all season cops head knock at training for Round 18 and the specialist says he can't play for the rest of the season (very easy to train someone to fake concussion). So the Chooks go out and recruit, from another team with zero chance of making the finals, a gun player that fills a gap in their roster for the last few games of the season and the finals. Of course that would never happen, like SBW or TPJ with Penrith etc.


Always a Bulldog

 

[2144superman]

you’ve got the Thommo dick riders on your case lol

FK bro, 3 years later and wer'e still not allowed to call him out? apparently the guy has 'bad luck' is 'unlucky' and circumstances are against him even after 3 seasons.

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