Has Hasler lost the respect of the playing group?

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Like many on the Kennel I have been frustrated by the activity surrounding the dogs for the past few years and am now convinced that Hasler has lost the playing group.

It seems to me that everyone is Too afraid to say this out loud or mention it so I am asking the question.

My reasoning's behind it;
1. If the players were truly committed then why are they still fat - look at every other team and the intensity that they play with, the speed and the general ability to last 80 minutes. We have experienced trainers and $800K worth of specialized fitness equipment yet we are fat and unfit. If the players have bought into the playing style and game plans then surely they can have enough self discipline not to sneak in that extra chicken at lunch and keep themselves at their optimum playing weight.

2. Players attitude during the games - once it becomes obvious that the game is lost we routinely seem to go through the motions rather than dig in. I hate watching other teams who compete every game without their stars - do not care if we lose but expect a higher of commitment.

3. The "no dropping of players" policy - If the players have become too complacent with their security in the team irrespective of success, then this tells me they really do not care what Des says/rants about because they know they will not get dropped. Lets see if Williams, Reynolds, Kasiano etc really ramp it up if they get dropped or if they spit it and want to go elsewhere. Look at Mitch Brown, picked every game last year, never dropped, goes to the sharks, Cannot crack first grade despite his apparent experience.

4, The game plan it self - earlier this year it was announced that the dogs had spent more money on another Hasler request - cameras at the ground for training and game time. This was meant to help the players know where to stand, correct their positioning etc. There is no evidence in any game that this has helped. I do not see the players responding in a way that says to me, Bugger, I know he is watching and I will pull my finger out. I do not see the players attacking with depth, purpose, passion and intensity. If you believe then you will commit, we are not committed.

5. The players are just footballers - Maybe Des has overcooked them and the ones that want to play to win have the shits that other passengers in the team do not get penalized for their poor efforts, fitness or general don't care attitude. Why keep trying when at least 4 players are not pulling their weight. Self pride is a powerful thing but it has a time limit if you are the only one (or handful of players) that is playing with it in the games.

Maybe no-one wants to say it, after all it is Des Hasler, but if it is not the lack of respect then why are we competing like and under 6 team?

If and I hope that I am wrong, why cannot Des/Ralene/Ray gives the fans some clearer answers on the current activity and the direction we are taking with our recruitment to plug the very obvious gaps we have.

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Once you lose the playing groups' respect, then you know your ****ed
 

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You can't be serious. Without des we don't make those grand finals nor do we sign Brett Morris. Also, we haven't lost any players we wanted to keep since he has been here. The players respect him big time.
 

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You can't be serious. Without des we don't make those grand finals nor do we sign Brett Morris. Also, we haven't lost any players we wanted to keep since he has been here. The players respect him big time.
David stagg, Martin taupau, dene halatau etc. I'm pretty sure everyone wanted to des to keep them
 

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Like many on the Kennel I have been frustrated by the activity surrounding the dogs for the past few years and am now convinced that Hasler has lost the playing group.

It seems to me that everyone is Too afraid to say this out loud or mention it so I am asking the question.

My reasoning's behind it;
1. If the players were truly committed then why are they still fat - look at every other team and the intensity that they play with, the speed and the general ability to last 80 minutes. We have experienced trainers and $800K worth of specialized fitness equipment yet we are fat and unfit. If the players have bought into the playing style and game plans then surely they can have enough self discipline not to sneak in that extra chicken at lunch and keep themselves at their optimum playing weight.

2. Players attitude during the games - once it becomes obvious that the game is lost we routinely seem to go through the motions rather than dig in. I hate watching other teams who compete every game without their stars - do not care if we lose but expect a higher of commitment.

3. The "no dropping of players" policy - If the players have become too complacent with their security in the team irrespective of success, then this tells me they really do not care what Des says/rants about because they know they will not get dropped. Lets see if Williams, Reynolds, Kasiano etc really ramp it up if they get dropped or if they spit it and want to go elsewhere. Look at Mitch Brown, picked every game last year, never dropped, goes to the sharks, Cannot crack first grade despite his apparent experience.

4, The game plan it self - earlier this year it was announced that the dogs had spent more money on another Hasler request - cameras at the ground for training and game time. This was meant to help the players know where to stand, correct their positioning etc. There is no evidence in any game that this has helped. I do not see the players responding in a way that says to me, Bugger, I know he is watching and I will pull my finger out. I do not see the players attacking with depth, purpose, passion and intensity. If you believe then you will commit, we are not committed.

5. The players are just footballers - Maybe Des has overcooked them and the ones that want to play to win have the shits that other passengers in the team do not get penalized for their poor efforts, fitness or general don't care attitude. Why keep trying when at least 4 players are not pulling their weight. Self pride is a powerful thing but it has a time limit if you are the only one (or handful of players) that is playing with it in the games.

Maybe no-one wants to say it, after all it is Des Hasler, but if it is not the lack of respect then why are we competing like and under 6 team?

If and I hope that I am wrong, why cannot Des/Ralene/Ray gives the fans some clearer answers on the current activity and the direction we are taking with our recruitment to plug the very obvious gaps we have.

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I think you're reading too much into things. Once we string a long run of wins together, which, I know is inevitable, the discussion will be only Hasler could turn and tune a side ready for finals footy.
 

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David stagg, Martin taupau, dene halatau etc. I'm pretty sure everyone wanted to des to keep them
Stagg was well over the hill, taupau couldn't crack first grade and club wouldn't have stood in his way at the time, halatau also on his last legs.
Look at all the players we've 're signed
 

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David stagg, Martin taupau, dene halatau etc. I'm pretty sure everyone wanted to des to keep them
In hindsight the only one that went on to do well is Taupau and even then when he was with us he had feet for hands.

Also don't agree with when the game seems lost we give up. There have been a few games this year that we where losing and seemed out of reach but we kept going ie panthers game, tigers first time we played them, and even against the rabbitohs.

I have personally spoken to a player in the first grade squad that I know and they speak of Des with nothing but respect.
 

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I think the problem is the players have way too much respect for Des to the point where they'll play to a set game-plan, instead of playing on instincts.
 

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What a load of shit !
Ffs, there isn't a team in the comp that'd still be Winning with 5 internationals out.
Anybody judging this team on our last 5 weeks needs their head read. We were 3 from 4 before the good Friday NRL raping. And we should've won that game too.
We have some issues, no doubt, but respect for hasler isn't one of them.
 

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I agree that des has to re assess his no dropping players it creates laziness ,mcguire and bennett are prepared to maje tough calls and des should as well,hokko and trex should be in nsw cup
 

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Who has Des bought since he came???
Sherex... perrett??? Bmoz was bought for overs but I still love him.
He hasn't been able to attract anyone. Foran DCE chose to go to shit clubs over us. We failed to gain any other stars as well. Who have we got for next year. We have the crappiest halfback that nobody wants and yet we can't even attract anyone to replace him.
We haven't won anything in 4years with Des, nothing zilch zero nada, furk being happy with making the grand final, I want to win one. It amazes me at how many supporters are happy enough just to make a grand final. Winners dont settle for second best. I couldn't care if we make the next 10 geand finals in a row, if we can't win one then its all for nothing.
Hasler is a one trick pony, and the game against the roosters was clear evidence of that. As soon as graham went off we collapsed. If u can't see it then you dont know anything about footy. Go watch the 7 other games and compare it to the way we play.
 

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You can't be serious. Without des we don't make those grand finals nor do we sign Brett Morris. Also, we haven't lost any players we wanted to keep since he has been here. The players respect him big time.
Pretty sure Brett came to play with his brother and the extra money offered him.
 

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Stagg was well over the hill, taupau couldn't crack first grade and club wouldn't have stood in his way at the time, halatau also on his last legs.
Look at all the players we've 're signed
Also we lost finucane. I would rather the 4 I mentioned over she Rex and hodkinson
 

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You can't be serious. Without des we don't make those grand finals nor do we sign Brett Morris. Also, we haven't lost any players we wanted to keep since he has been here. The players respect him big time.
with des just who have we signed...1 good signing in 3 years
 

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I think people realise all things and all people reach there "use by date". Hasler has reached his. It appears that he is living in the past.
He hasnt evolved into the modern style of football. Fat heavyweight (overweight) players dont cut it any more. You need fast, mobile players. We dont have many. As for the game plan, we dont seem to have that either.
Hasler gets outcoached by rookies like MacGregor, Taylor and Robinson. I think its time to bite the bullet. Jim Dymoch looks the goods.
 

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Lichaa signed because of hasler and was the most promising young hooker in the game. Fifita signed as well. The club let finucane go because there wasn't room to start him.
When graham and Morris are back we are gunna wipe the floor with every one so chill the **** out.
 

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I think the original post is untrue,
Based on nothing but my opinion,
But from what gets reported, Des is well respected highly by the players in the same way as Wayne Bennett,
I think des biggest issue is he is stubborn and to persistent with game plays and plans that are clearly not working,

I think des needs to untie the apron strings a bit,
Get in a specialist like johns to sort out our attacking issues,
 

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I think some in the kennel are 'digging too deep' trying to find reasons for our current situation. For me, it was the Souths game. With seconds to go, we had the game taken from us and, as we all know, we lost a shitload of players to injuries and suspensions. That game ****ed our confidence and we have suffered greatly as a result as would any other team in the comp. Take Thurston, Scott, Morgan and Tamou out of the Cowboys and see how they perform. Blaming Hasler or Reynolds or Hodko is just ' scratching at the surface'.
 

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Injuries and suspensions have stalled the Doggies season..Des isn't the one who drops the ball or misses the tackles.. He is a highly respected coach by players and the League.. I don't think his players would be resigning if they didn't respect him..He's helped Canterbury to two GF in his three years.. If not for indifferent bounces of the ball (Morris in 2013 ball bounces a touch too high which allowed Slater to punch it) or an injured captain in 2014 those results may have been different..

Everytime things aren't doing well there's always a deep dark conspiracy about why it occurs.. It's normally the simple answer that are right.. In this case injuries and players out of form.. There's still a long way to go..

Sure question his tactics..question his selections..but gee I don't think you can question the players respect for him..
 

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Bmoz @$600k as a winger is overs but as a fullback is certainly not,in actual fact hes good value
 
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