Halfback Moses Mbye discusses his positional future at the Bulldogs.

[Mr Invisible]

Herein lies the problem. Mbye when he was coming through the ranks he was thrown into that many positions I doubt he even knows where he belongs. A bit of fullback, a bit of centre, a dash of hooker, a bit of 5/8, and some halfback.

He needs to decide on a position, and cement yourself in that position, else you'll forever be one of those "floaters" that never reaches their peak ability because they are always fucking about changing positions.

"At the moment"
"I think"

Assuming this is word for word and not "creative license" on the journos part.

Well he originally said he wanted the 6 jersey.

“My long-term goal is to be a starting five-eighth at this club. That’s the goal,’’ Mbye said.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/teams/bulldogs/moses-mbye-says-he-wants-josh-reynolds-bulldogs-no6-shirt-but-how-long-will-he-wait/news-story/208154a7813d5d17a605ce5b661d2dd6

That was in 2015.

 

[Gabs]

Na, they only want to imagine Reynolds outside a halfback. More tries, more try assists and double the line break assists as Reynolds last season yet they still run with his "not a half" or whatever else they come up with lol.

I think he could easily play well at hooker and i doubt the transition would take that many years..but id rather him in the 6 alongside a decent halfback like he should of been from day 1.

Who is that 'decent' halfback that will make up for Moses' lack of vision and kicking game that:
a. is actually off contract; and
b. wants to come to our club???

I do agree though, he'd be far better if he's not the primary playmaker, either as a 6 or 9.

 

[speedy2460]

Ive been saying for a while now that Mbye is a magnificent athlete, but hes not a complete footballer. Hes much like Hayne. His attributes are running and tackling.
He is best suited for the centres.
His comments may suggest that a new halfback is happening...Maybe Brooks.

 

[CrittaMagic69]

Who is that 'decent' halfback that will make up for Moses' lack of vision and kicking game that:
a. is actually off contract; and
b. wants to come to our club???

I do agree though, he'd be far better if he's not the primary playmaker, either as a 6 or 9.

I wouldn't say he lacks vision, he lacks the options. ObviousIy he has a long way to go but imo his development by the club has been very poor and has set him back a fair bit. He has always been a very good passer and runner of the ball, so the most obvious thing to work on would of been his decision making. Unfortunately Des thought otherwise and ran with his Des ball system where he used him as basically a centre/fb and really didn't work on key areas of his game.

I don't know who the halfback is that we should sign at this stage, but i sure as shit knew we should of signed one a long time ago when we had a chance and change our styIe of play.

I suggested Maloney at the time he was off contract, not many people on here were interested. Obviously he isn't an out and out halfback and more a ball runner, but he was an experienced Premiership winning playmaker that had a kicking game while also being one of the better goal kickers in the game. All 3 things we clearly needed. From what i hear, Des didn't rate him and Maloney went on to sign a similar priced contract to the one we signed Kasiano on.

At this stage Ata Hingano looks like a decent option from off contract players. But he is inexperienced and what we really need is an experienced playmaker, so that leaves us with either of the Tigers halves...not overly confident with them either though a bit of strictured footy might do some good for them.

 

[KiwiDog7]

Who is that 'decent' halfback that will make up for Moses' lack of vision and kicking game that:
a. is actually off contract; and
b. wants to come to our club???

I do agree though, he'd be far better if he's not the primary playmaker, either as a 6 or 9.

I think Mbye kicking game can be improved over time that's just a confidence thing. Last week I said his confidence was shot and he needed to just run which he did and scored a nice try kicked goals and played his best game of the year so far

When his running game is on the rest of his game is solid

I agree about his vision or lack thereof (halfback play) you either have that vision or don't ie Joey Johns JT Cronk and even Shifty that were all natural halfbacks

Yes 6 is his spot

 

[Gabs]

I hear what you say Marley but every time I see Moses play, he doesn't look like he has time. The great halves have time. They pick and chose when to run, when to pass, when to kick and never appear to be rushed. Only very rarely does the opposition devise a plan that will shake them. I don't get the same feeling with Moses.

No doubt he has talent and potential, I am just not sure he's any more than a great running 5/8, in the Michael Morgan mould. Morgan without Thurston wouldn't be where he is. I suppose that might be what your getting at also.

I agree that the primary organising and playmaking duties should not fall to Moses. We need a 7 who can organise and kick. Our kicking game is about the worst in the comp, in my honest opinion.

 

[bcmf]

They fucked his development when they made him play all over the place. He needs to be mentored and needs to learn his craft from a proper half, not some make shift one like Reynolds.

It's apparent he has the tool kit. Speed, a boot (he strikes the ball sweetly) and a good pass. He needs someone to train and nurture him... Des needs a halves coach. We don't have one ATM do we?

 

[2144superman]

Craig Bellamy uses Matty Johns a lot with his halves over the past few years even after he left as assistance coach. He apparently made Cam Munster spend time with Matty Johns during the off season in Sydney and hearing this Billy Slater also asked to join Munster as Ben Ikin revealed on his NRL360 show.
Des Hasler is apparently neighbours with Matty and they regularly talk so why wouldn't he also enlist the help of the Storms halves coach.
Mbye needs some guidance and I don't believe he has that kind of experience and talent at our club to over see his progression.

 

[KiwiDog7]

Craig Bellamy uses Matty Johns a lot with his halves over the past few years even after he left as assistance coach. He apparently made Cam Munster spend time with Matty Johns during the off season in Sydney and hearing this Billy Slater also asked to join Munster as Ben Ikin revealed on his NRL360 show.
Des Hasler is apparently neighbours with Matty and they regularly talk so why wouldn't he also enlist the help of the Storms halves coach.
Mbye needs some guidance and I don't believe he has that kind of experience and talent at our club to over see his progression.

When Terry Lamb and Steve Mortimer are club greats and halves specialist yet no utilised lol

 

[bcmf]

When Terry Lamb and Steve Mortimer are club greats and halves specialist yet no utilised lol

I wouldn't use them. Different era and a different style of footy.

 

[COVENS]

We may as well give Frawley a crack, there isn't an ideal halfback on the market. Why buy someone when we'd just be settling?

 

[KiwiDog7]

I wouldn't use them. Different era and a different style of footy.

Matty Johns was also a different era

 

[silva]

Seems like he's giving up on himself. He threw a great cut out ball on the weekend that led to a try and scored a good try himself. He needs to focus more on his kicking game and get us some repeat sets, but I think he can come good.

 

[Brizdog]

Craig Bellamy uses Matty Johns a lot with his halves over the past few years even after he left as assistance coach. He apparently made Cam Munster spend time with Matty Johns during the off season in Sydney and hearing this Billy Slater also asked to join Munster as Ben Ikin revealed on his NRL360 show.
Des Hasler is apparently neighbours with Matty and they regularly talk so why wouldn't he also enlist the help of the Storms halves coach.
Mbye needs some guidance and I don't believe he has that kind of experience and talent at our club to over see his progression.

Des doesn't need the help of anyone else he's gods gift to football. He can do it himself.

 

[bcmf]

Matty Johns was also a different era

He also nurtured a hooker in Cooper Cronk into one of the premier halfbacks in our game.

To me that screams exceptional knowledge of the game. I am not too sure baa or Mortimer can bring that to the table. Not doubting their legacies...

 

[ThePedigree]

Im yet too see Mbye play the game of his life or play in a game where he has absolutely killed it. Even good old Benny Roberts had one....lol

Fkn lol

 

[2144superman]

Mathew johns was credited for a lot of the plays Melbourne are still using from when he was assistant to Bellamy in Melbourne. Bellamy obviously holds him in really high regard to be sending his stars and even the up and comers to him to be mentored.

 

[speedy2460]

There is little difference between a 1/2 or 5/8. The way the teams are programmed now, one plays on the left and one on the right.
The only difference is the 1/2 feeds the scrum. The big requirement though, is that both players need to be creative and compliment each other.
Doesnt seem to be happening.

 

[berriesfan]

The problem I see is that he is signed on marquee money. I would get rid of him before moving him. We already have a winger on fullback money. Maybe move him to hooker in the future but knowing des he will blunt his attacking game in that position and will mean we are paying massive overs for a primarily tackling hooker.

 

[WestBeast]

Well he originally said he wanted the 6 jersey.

“My long-term goal is to be a starting five-eighth at this club. That’s the goal,’’ Mbye said.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...t/news-story/208154a7813d5d17a605ce5b661d2dd6

Hence Reynolds being told to look elsewhere , I hope the rumours about brooks are untrue that guy is garbage