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I’m tired of everyone saying he was the only person responsible for building this foundation. Is it just coincidence that as soon as they moved him on they have become this unbelievable force ? HE DIDNT WANT IVAN CLEARY AS THEIR COACH
No one said he was the only one responsible. But he deserves a fair bit of credit considering he was the head of football and his main focus was protecting and developing their junior nursery and setting up an academy etc. Which they're reaping the rewards from now as most of their premiership winning 17 are juniors.

You're worse than Buzz in letting your agenda against Gus blind your views.
 
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He really screwed them over by fixing their junior setup, locking up their best juniors long term and building the foundation for a premiership winning team that's been no worse than 1st or 2nd for 30 straight weeks.
Mercy. Don’t overlook the fact he sacked Cleary and didn’t want him back as coach. Gould gets punted and Penrith win a premiership
 

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Are you serious ? He sacked 2 coaches. Cleary only returned as long as Gould was gone.
he set up pretty good junior pathways and recruited well, got rid of overpaid underachievers and brought in cheaper, quality players, set up systems there that make them successful with talent in all grades and ensuring a steady stream of players join the panthers from across the state as kids, the 5 year plan worked and now they're likely to make their 3rd grand final in 3 years and potentially go back to back. yes he sacked cleary and hook - so what? hook isnt doing anything spectacular at st merge and cleary is back at penrith doing nothing because that team is so good and familiar with each other that it doesnt even need to be coached.
compare that to the dogs, shit salary cap position (up until now), no junior pathways, bog average reserve graders, sub par first graders on too much money, dan ferris, 5 from 35 games won in 2 years, an under performing coach in barrett... you could go on all day.
 

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Mercy. Don’t overlook the fact he sacked Cleary and didn’t want him back as coach. Gould gets punted and Penrith win a premiership
The only reason Penrith got Ivan back was because Nathan was about to walk out and sign with the Tigers to join Ivan. He sacked Cleary because at the time his record was average.

It's only since Ivan's come back with a golden generation of juniors that his record has been great. Which is mainly in thanks to the foundations laid to protect and develop their nursery and ensure they didn't keep losing their best juniors like they did before Gus arrived.
 

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I can’t believe all these Bulldogs fans that are defending Phil Gould, so thrilled he’s running your club. Talk about being blinded.
After 11 rounds your club is running last and will again pick up another wooden spoon. Gould was supposed to turn things around. Instead the club is in turmoil. Barrett was sacked, he didn’t resign, and Gould comes out unscathed. Players have walked out and who knows who else will follow. He undermined Barrett and took over training a month ago. Who does that shit ? Only someone with a massive ego.
How many of you expected this by the end of May ? Your roster is not a wooden spoon one. Not even close.
 

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I can’t believe all these Bulldogs fans that are defending Phil Gould, so thrilled he’s running your club. Talk about being blinded.
After 11 rounds your club is running last and will again pick up another wooden spoon. Gould was supposed to turn things around. Instead the club is in turmoil. Barrett was sacked, he didn’t resign, and Gould comes out unscathed. Players have walked out and who knows who else will follow. He undermined Barrett and took over training a month ago. Who does that shit ? Only someone with a massive ego.
How many of you expected this by the end of May ? Your roster is not a wooden spoon one. Not even close.
Gus has been here how long? He’s responsible for who here?

Barrett was out of his depth, he let himself down with poor choices like Ferris who is a massive reason we are where we are as the fitness is pathetic.

Gus didn’t recruit any of the above issues. He’s been in to fix the issues and hence these fucktards going.

Even with this mess we still beat your mob.

He has recruited kikau and Mahoney. The players “walking out “ are a huge reason to the mess we are in and can fuck right off.

You’re a clown.
 

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I can’t believe all these Bulldogs fans that are defending Phil Gould, so thrilled he’s running your club. Talk about being blinded.
After 11 rounds your club is running last and will again pick up another wooden spoon. Gould was supposed to turn things around. Instead the club is in turmoil. Barrett was sacked, he didn’t resign, and Gould comes out unscathed. Players have walked out and who knows who else will follow. He undermined Barrett and took over training a month ago. Who does that shit ? Only someone with a massive ego.
How many of you expected this by the end of May ? Your roster is not a wooden spoon one. Not even close.
its not a 5 minute fix, but he's done more this year to turn it around than what previous administrations have done in 5 years. it will get better for the bulldogs.
barrett was sacked because he could not get a win. any coach with the same record at any other club would have been sacked, its not a gus thing, its an NRL coaching failure thing.
no player has walked out, naden was told his position was under pressure because hes shit and offered to the tigers. he took that opportunity up. nobody else has gone anywhere.
just curious which club you support? i know its not the bulldogs given you use phrases like 'your roster' and 'these bulldogs fans'?
 

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I can’t believe all these Bulldogs fans that are defending Phil Gould, so thrilled he’s running your club. Talk about being blinded.
After 11 rounds your club is running last and will again pick up another wooden spoon. Gould was supposed to turn things around. Instead the club is in turmoil. Barrett was sacked, he didn’t resign, and Gould comes out unscathed. Players have walked out and who knows who else will follow. He undermined Barrett and took over training a month ago. Who does that shit ? Only someone with a massive ego.
How many of you expected this by the end of May ? Your roster is not a wooden spoon one. Not even close.
Okay Buzz.. What players have walked out? Naden? He was released because he was trash. Should he have kept Barrett? The same coach with a 5-29 record?

Are the last 5 seasons we were bottom 5 on the ladder before Gus arrived all his fault too? No one is saying Gus walks on water. No one is saying he'll get every decision right. No one is even slurping him incessantly.

Worry about your own shitty club that loses to the wooden spoon team that you're hammering. Your club doesn't even belong on the same field as top 4 teams despite having a squad that's over the cap and filled with rep players every year.
 

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Okay Buzz.. What players have walked out? Naden? He was released because he was trash. Should he have kept Barrett? The same coach with a 5-29 record?

Are the last 5 seasons we were bottom 5 on the ladder before Gus arrived all his fault too? No one is saying Gus walks on water. No one is saying he'll get every decision right. No one is even slurping him incessantly.

Worry about your own shitty club that loses to the wooden spoon team that you're hammering. Your club doesn't even belong on the same field as top 4 teams despite having a squad that's over the cap and filled with rep players every year.
ah, so he's a roosters fan? all good, probably still salty fitler didn't get his send off. no point explaining the facts to him any more
 

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Okay Buzz.. What players have walked out? Naden? He was released because he was trash. Should he have kept Barrett? The same coach with a 5-29 record?

Are the last 5 seasons we were bottom 5 on the ladder before Gus arrived all his fault too? No one is saying Gus walks on water. No one is saying he'll get every decision right. No one is even slurping him incessantly.

Worry about your own shitty club that loses to the wooden spoon team that you're hammering. Your club doesn't even belong on the same field as top 4 teams despite having a squad that's over the cap and filled with rep players every year.
Shitty club that has won the most premierships in the last decade. Losing to the Bulldogs was the most embarrassing defeat in the last 10 years. Enjoy another spoon.
 

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Shitty club that has won the most premierships in the last decade. Losing to the Bulldogs was the most embarrassing defeat in the last 10 years. Enjoy another spoon.
Enjoy coming 6th and losing by 50 in the finals again. Keep clinging to a few years ago and ignoring how mediocre your team has been the last few seasons.
 

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he set up pretty good junior pathways and recruited well, got rid of overpaid underachievers and brought in cheaper, quality players, set up systems there that make them successful with talent in all grades and ensuring a steady stream of players join the panthers from across the state as kids, the 5 year plan worked and now they're likely to make their 3rd grand final in 3 years and potentially go back to back. yes he sacked cleary and hook - so what? hook isnt doing anything spectacular at st merge and cleary is back at penrith doing nothing because that team is so good and familiar with each other that it doesnt even need to be coached.
compare that to the dogs, shit salary cap position (up until now), no junior pathways, bog average reserve graders, sub par first graders on too much money, dan ferris, 5 from 35 games won in 2 years, an under performing coach in barrett... you could go on all day.
I think Barrett has proven that coaching the Panthers doesnt really prove anyhting as a coach. Gould had Wayne Bennett coming to the Panthers but the board over-ruled him and went with Cleary - would you be happy wiht Bennett?
Gould then left. Gould's work is done at Panthers and they will probably be a top 8 team (barring a bad injury year) forever moving forward, because of his work.
 

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I think Barrett has porven that coaching the Panthers doesnt really prove anyhting as a coach. Gould had Wayne Bennett coming to the Panthers but the board over-ruled him and went wiht Cleary. Gould then left. Goulds work is done at Panthers and they will prpoabbly be a top 8 team for ever moving foard because of his work,
100% spot on
 
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