Des a genius

[The DoggFather]

He needs to freshen up in the offseason as well.

needs a good root and a haircut

Needs better support too IE a halves coach

 

[Realist90]

To blame des for his coachin style is a bit messed up. I believe we beat the Broncos under his coaching style? We kept dropping the ball last night and choked big time. Did des tell mbye to play the ball the opposite direction? No. The only blame for des he deserves is not dropping certain players. Some our players are just fkn hollow upstairs when they get under pressure.

 

[The DoggFather]

To blame des for his coachin style is a bit messed up. I believe we beat the Broncos under his coaching style? We kept dropping the ball last night and choked big time. Did des tell mbye to play the ball the opposite direction? No. The only blame for des he deserves is not dropping certain players. Some our players are just fkn hollow upstairs when they get under pressure.

No chance of getting dropped so no improvement.

 

[dog whisperer]

Did anyone ever consider the two premierships he won at Manly had a lot of luck involved. 2008 they played the storm without Cam Smith and everyone knows that when Melbourne play without Smith they hardly win. In 2011 Manly had the luck of the draw in the old McIntyre system. First week they played a 7th placed Cowboys and advanced straight to week 3 where they played the Broncos without Lockyer who fractured his cheekbone a week earlier in the semi against the dragons. Then in the Grand final they were lucky enough to play the rocks or diamonds warriors who finished the regular season in 6th position and were actually belted by the Broncos in week one of the finals but got a second chance because of the stupid McIntyre system. So maybe he isn't a great coach, maybe he's just a good coach or had some luck at manly along with the great squad he had at his disposal.

 

[Indiandog]

yeah good points OP, i might agree with them, but buck stops with the one who makes the decision. period!

all i hear is we went through injuries/ suspension every single year since 2012 hence it was a great achievement making the finals and 2 x GFs... yes it is a great achievement , but the question is why our players go through so much injury? what is our fitness coach, dietitian, training facility , rehab and stuff are doing? Isnt Des supposed to look after this as well? Why dont teams like Roosters , Rabbits and Broncos go through so many injuries?

Why our fowards keep getting fatter and unhealthier every year?? Why do they get exhausted after 20 minutes of footy? Do you notice how hard and fast roosters/ cowboys/ roosters/ rabbitohs play?? yet they dont look like tired as much as we do at the end of the game.

Why do we always look so lost and dumb with the ball on last tackle? every single nrl expert has pointed it out a million times we waste our 5th tackles more than any one else in the game, this has been the consistent problem since 2012!

I know Des defenders will say oh we never had decent halves... well i put the question back,what if we had the potential in keating, hokko, reynolds, Mbye to be good halves but the werent coached properly. Why I say that , look at the most frustrating player from dogs in 2013 and 2014 Mr.Mick Ennis, every one loved to hate him here cos he was the one holding us back.... ACTUALLY NOT , HE WAS HELD BACK BY THE COACH as it is proven this year under a different coach.

Time will tell , but Hokko at Newcastle will kill , condition to no injury. This will confirm Des has always been a myth and had no idea how to coach our halves. Another example is performance of Cook, he was a different player in last two games and not his devestating best where he ran with the ball, took on the line, threatened opposition with speed , but he was just another Ennis 2013/2014 and in Liccha 2015 in the last two games.

so many other points but this is all for the moment.

 

[pisssst]

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[KelpiesHuskies]

In 2012, Des took the team all the way to the grand final with a roster he didn't inherit, we also had josh Reynolds and kris keating as our halves for the whole season, the most unlikely of halves pairing to guide a team to a grand final. He also came a year early that year and managed to get the best out of our roster in the space of less than 12 months. It was pretty much the same roster as the year before except the addition of graham. Not many coaches can come in and transform a side that quickly with a roster he knew nothing about.

In 2013, Des managed to get us into the finals on the back of a disrupted season. Yes the year was a disappointment, but remember we had started the season off terribly with the barba drama and we began the season with 1 win out of our first 6 games and we were written off. All season the barba drama affected us and players didn't wanna play with him. In the end we managed enough wins to finish 6th with 30 points. It was a terrible end but it could've been much worse. And I also forgot to mention we started off that season with many key injuries with graham suspension etc.

In 2014, God knows how we made the grand final with a back three of perrett, Thompson and Brown. And the majority of the season we had many players missing with origin duties, injuries and suspension. Our depth was tested and going in to the finals we lost 6 OF OUR LAST 8!!!!.
We managed to turn that around and win 3 tough matches in a row from 7th not easy to do. By the time we reached the grand final we were flustered up against it all, Ennis missing, kasiano missing, Trent hodkinson on 1 leg, Reynolds playing with a busted shoulder and still the score was 6 all at 50th minute mark and still in it. It was remarkable how we managed to go that far, under any other coach we would have not been able to do that.

In 2015, Well we all know what we had to go through this year, it was tough, Injuries, suspension, origin, referee controversy and we still managed to keep it together and finish equal 4th, and we all know how our season ended yesterday.

Its disappointing we haven't won a comp yet, but des has managed to keep this team mentally strong under tough times for the majority of his time here at the dogs. So yeah he's somewhat of a genius and I don't care what anybody says.

agree with all. maybe next year he will a premiership.

 

[B-Train]

Des. One of the best coaches wad baught in to win a comp. He is paid Handsomely and gets everything he wants.
I dont want to celebrate mediocrity and become just like another bottom 8s team supporter that would settle for a finals birth eavh year or settle for grand final losses.
We have not won a premiership for 11 years and thats just not good enough for such a high profile proud club as canterbury with the dollars tge club has and the roster we have had through the early to mid 2000s and the team we have now.
Sure injury does not help but we have no attack let alone a change of plan for each year since the rule changes after 2012 about our set plays.
We are out of ideas, behind the times and our recruiting is suspect.
Hoe many more years do we settle for mediocritty. All ceo's and head coaches are accountable.

-Players never get dropped despite bad form

-Every loss we have he says we need to hold onto the ball yet we play like we have soap on our hands week in week out.

-No gameplan at all, all the players look like headless chickens

-Players panic on the 5th tackle resulting in the worst 5th tackle options of any team

-halfs cant kick or lead

-Cant score points to save our lifes and when we do its outside the opps 40m (we scored a total of 10points in 2 Grand Finals)

-Teams make 60m plus a set against us.

If this isnt Des's fault then whos is it?

These posts are genius, not Des.

 

[doggieaaron]

Des needs to reward players on performance and stop rewarding mediocrity and keep these guys on their toes ,they all need to be told we have some talent in nsw cup and if they dont perform thats where theyll be playing

 

[Horny Wog]

Needs better support too IE a halves coach

Needs to freshen up his post match interviews as well


I always get the impression during his post match interviews all his urmmm and arssss with the constant hair flicking and nose whistles are due to a force downunder just like Commandant Eric Lassard in Police Academy with the brunette and Cadet Mahoney

 

[Nano]

Des needs to reward players on performance and stop rewarding mediocrity and keep these guys on their toes ,they all need to be told we have some talent in nsw cup and if they dont perform thats where theyll be playing

That doesn't matter as they will still be paid the same amount of money we have to scare them where it hurts and that is their pockets/wallets

 

[Indiandog]

Des is a genius ..... for getting his 850ks/ year and making us look like fools.

 

[pisssst]

If things don't change next year ( we will know by end of round 1) we will never win anything with des. Our attack inside the 20 has been getting worse year after year, if des doesn't change the way we play and attack I think its time to go.

 

[w00t]

All up to finish 5th this year with this squad is an underachievement... you can create reasons and excuses but 5th with this squad isnt a great result by any stretch

To be fair we have the weakest halves in the competition. Now Des is to blame for this because instead of actively trying to recruit halves (DCE, Foran, Elgey were all avaliable to be be signed) we didn't manage to get anyone.

Hasler made Barba into a superstar and Barba was a natural ballplayer with a great deal of flair, then we all know what happened in 2013. But in the last 2 yearas instead of us gunning for an adequate replacement all we did was sign a winger to be our fullback.

Hodkinson for the first half of the season was beyond pathetic and Reynolds has never been a natural half, Mbye is a rookie but his last few games or so has been well below par. Our squad is a lot weaker than it looks on paper because we are absolutely rudderless and Hasler is to blame for this because he doesn't attempt to rectify this at all and hasn't since the Barba fiasco in 2013. Making the Grand Final last year was one of the worst things to happen to us because all it did was reinforce the belief that Hasler's outdated plan was working.

 

[terrylamb4lyfe]

We should have kept Sezer. He would have been perfect for us.

 

[mearsey]

-Players never get dropped despite bad form

-Every loss we have he says we need to hold onto the ball yet we play like we have soap on our hands week in week out.

-No gameplan at all, all the players look like headless chickens

-Players panic on the 5th tackle resulting in the worst 5th tackle options of any team

-halfs cant kick or lead

-Cant score points to save our lifes and when we do its outside the opps 40m (we scored a total of 10points in 2 Grand Finals)

-Teams make 60m plus a set against us.

If this isnt Des's fault then whos is it?

Another one is the useless low percentage bombs , no one chases

 

[Indiandog]

To be fair we have the weakest halves in the competition. Now Des is to blame for this because instead of actively trying to recruit halves (DCE, Foran, Elgey were all avaliable to be be signed) we didn't manage to get anyone.

Hasler made Barba into a superstar and Barba was a natural ballplayer with a great deal of flair, then we all know what happened in 2013. But in the last 2 yearas instead of us gunning for an adequate replacement all we did was sign a winger to be our fullback.

Hodkinson for the first half of the season was beyond pathetic and Reynolds has never been a natural half, Mbye is a rookie but his last few games or so has been well below par. Our squad is a lot weaker than it looks on paper because we are absolutely rudderless and Hasler is to blame for this because he doesn't attempt to rectify this at all and hasn't since the Barba fiasco in 2013. Making the Grand Final last year was one of the worst things to happen to us because all it did was reinforce the belief that Hasler's outdated plan was working.

I agree with everything what you said except that we have the weakest halves in the comp.

I heard last we had the worst hooker in the comp, that didnt come out to be true.

Let hokko play injury free at Newcastle and then it will confirm if we really had pathetic halves or pathetic coach.

 

[mearsey]

In 2012, Des took the team all the way to the grand final with a roster he didn't inherit, we also had josh Reynolds and kris keating as our halves for the whole season, the most unlikely of halves pairing to guide a team to a grand final. He also came a year early that year and managed to get the best out of our roster in the space of less than 12 months. It was pretty much the same roster as the year before except the addition of graham. Not many coaches can come in and transform a side that quickly with a roster he knew nothing about.

In 2013, Des managed to get us into the finals on the back of a disrupted season. Yes the year was a disappointment, but remember we had started the season off terribly with the barba drama and we began the season with 1 win out of our first 6 games and we were written off. All season the barba drama affected us and players didn't wanna play with him. In the end we managed enough wins to finish 6th with 30 points. It was a terrible end but it could've been much worse. And I also forgot to mention we started off that season with many key injuries with graham suspension etc.

In 2014, God knows how we made the grand final with a back three of perrett, Thompson and Brown. And the majority of the season we had many players missing with origin duties, injuries and suspension. Our depth was tested and going in to the finals we lost 6 OF OUR LAST 8!!!!.
We managed to turn that around and win 3 tough matches in a row from 7th not easy to do. By the time we reached the grand final we were flustered up against it all, Ennis missing, kasiano missing, Trent hodkinson on 1 leg, Reynolds playing with a busted shoulder and still the score was 6 all at 50th minute mark and still in it. It was remarkable how we managed to go that far, under any other coach we would have not been able to do that.

In 2015, Well we all know what we had to go through this year, it was tough, Injuries, suspension, origin, referee controversy and we still managed to keep it together and finish equal 4th, and we all know how our season ended yesterday.

Its disappointing we haven't won a comp yet, but des has managed to keep this team mentally strong under tough times for the majority of his time here at the dogs. So yeah he's somewhat of a genius and I don't care what anybody says.

Well said , if he doesnt come up with a new style of play - anything - its gunna be a long year .

 

[south of heaven]

Des is a genius he has got us well and truely under the radar to get us ready for the 2 grandfinal victories the club said they would get by 2020 or whatever .

 

[dog 4life]

no halves

To be fair we have the weakest halves in the competition. Now Des is to blame for this because instead of actively trying to recruit halves (DCE, Foran, Elgey were all avaliable to be be signed) we didn't manage to get anyone.

Hasler made Barba into a superstar and Barba was a natural ballplayer with a great deal of flair, then we all know what happened in 2013. But in the last 2 yearas instead of us gunning for an adequate replacement all we did was sign a winger to be our fullback.

Hodkinson for the first half of the season was beyond pathetic and Reynolds has never been a natural half, Mbye is a rookie but his last few games or so has been well below par. Our squad is a lot weaker than it looks on paper because we are absolutely rudderless and Hasler is to blame for this because he doesn't attempt to rectify this at all and hasn't since the Barba fiasco in 2013. Making the Grand Final last year was one of the worst things to happen to us because all it did was reinforce the belief that Hasler's outdated plan was working.

no halves.. mbye = ben Robert. Reynolds = no brains.. conclusion = des need to pull his finger out of his arss and invest in new halves that knows how to kick and for fcuks sake get a repeat set of six. Geez it's not rocket science