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Yes what a truly reliable and honest publication that is........




A Logically investigation can reveal that Jonathan Allen-Walker of Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire is behind the conspiracy news site, The Daily Expose.
The Daily Expose is a U.K.-focused conspiracy site created in November of last year, and since its establishment, it has promoted a standard portfolio of COVID-denialist, anti-vaxxer, and Great Reset myths framed as breaking news. It has grown to be extremely influential in the alt-news ecosystem, with its articles getting thousands of shares per day on Telegram, Twitter, and other private chat channels. Although the website is less than a year old, it has grown by more than 300,000 page views per month since January, with the last data available suggesting it had more than 1.5 million total cumulative views.
Unusually for a conspiracy site, The Daily Expose produces original content several times per day, rather than resharing memes or articles from elsewhere. On its “about” page, it claims to use only official documents from government or scientific sources to write its stories. The writers often distort or misinterpret the information within the snapshots of the documents they use to push a number of conspiratorial narratives. For instance, The Daily Expose has claimed that vaccines were approved without any sort of safety checks and that vaccines are causing mass death.
The writers and contributors don’t request interviews with scientists, government officials, or other qualified experts to make sure they’re interpreting these documents correctly. Nor do they give the right of reply to any of the institutions or figures they are reporting on, which is an expected journalistic practice.
The Daily Expose has fielded interviews with fringe figures, for instance, Mike Yeadon, but the interviews take the form of a transcript of their opinions, which are neither questioned nor fact checked. Because the writer or writers have been anonymous to this point, they have not been able to be held accountable for their content, nor do they have wider connections to any journalists who can vouch for their work. All of these factors make the website an extremely dangerous platform for misinformation, as it carries the weight of official documents without the transparency or accountability of reputable science or journalism.
The Daily Expose’s first posts are from November 2020. In March, Twitter suspended its main account, but almost immediately The Daily Expose was able to make a succession of alt accounts to get around the ban. At least five accounts were created at various stages after the initial ban. After the second ban, The Daily Expose made sure to run pairs of accounts so that individual account bans wouldn’t result in a complete loss of followers or lack of ability to tweet. The ban-evading accounts would always point followers to the paired account, accusing Twitter of censorship. Generally, accounts were set up with different phone numbers and email accounts from different providers, though they included similar bios, images, and headers, while also all linking to The Daily Expose website. Presently, two of their alts remain operational and have 18k and 14k followers respectively. A full 65 percent of their referrals come from Twitter.
The articles are all anonymous, signed online with a “Daily Expose” byline, save for a regular column written by Emily Smith of Leeds, who uses the WordPress handle captaindaretofly, and other occasional one-time contributors. On her other social media, Smith does not post anonymously.
It is not clear that Smith knows who runs the website. On a podcast episode with two other conspiracy content creators, Denty and Shaz, she says that she contributes articles voluntarily rather than for money. Smith did not respond to a request for comment.
In a video posted to The Daily Expose’s page, Denty and Shaz are credited as the creators of the video. The Daily Expose also has a YouTube channel with 1.8k subscribers, with videos made in a similar style posted every week or so. Denty and Shaz also did not respond to a request for comment.
It is unclear exactly how many contributors The Daily Expose has, or whether it has any permanent staff beyond Allen-Walker. Several tweets from its account suggest that the operation has multiple people involved.
The finances of the operation are unclear. It has run monthly fundraising efforts since at least February from its homepage, Twitter, and Telegram. There are a few other sporadic attempts at Crowdfunding on other platforms, with one campaign on Buy Me A Coffee yielding over £3600 in donations, but another on GoFundMe registering zero. No details were found for businesses registered with Allen-Walker’s information on Companies House.
When our reporters reached out for comment, Allen-Walker did not respond.
Trail of investigation
Clicking on The Daily Expose’s byline brings up the author page for the owner of the WordPress account, jonnywalkersb. An archive shows that jonnywalkersb.wordpress.com redirects to dailyexpose.co.uk.

Archived versions of the page reveal that it used to be the homepage for J&M Mechanical and Fabrication LTD in Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire.


Early whois records show that jandmltd.co.uk was registered by Jonathan Allen-Walker of Gainsborough before the details were later hidden from the public.
Cached data on Google suggests that the jonnywalkersb WordPress was used to run the J&M homepage. A phone number registered to The Daily Expose matches the number saved in the cached data for J&M.

Jonny Allen-Walker’s Facebook page showed an ad for the business, asking his friends to contact him for a job.

Furthermore, on The Daily Expose’s site, a PDF is available with metadata showing that it was created by Jonny Allen-Walker and J&M. An archived early version of the site from November 2020 shows a weather app locally registered to Scunthorpe.

When our reporters initially called the phone number associated with The Daily Expose, the person who answered claimed that our reporters had the wrong number. Within minutes of this call, Logically’s main account and our reporter’s account were blocked on Twitter by The Daily Expose.
A few minutes after the phone call, Allen-Walker’s Facebook page, which had been previously unavailable, was reactivated. Logically managed to capture a number of screenshots of Jonny Allen-Walker’s Facebook page before it was deactivated again, including several anti-vax memes, and the above advertisement for J&M.
Impact
The Daily Expose has been one of the most influential platforms for medical misinformation in the U.K., even though it appeared only at the end of 2020. Many who work in tracking disinformation have encountered it multiple times over the past nine months, and continue to encounter it almost daily. Nearly every influential figure in the lockdown-skeptic and anti-COVID-vax movements have either used it as a platform to broadcast their own points of view or to persuade others that officials are “hiding the truth” from the public. It carries the gloss of truth without the substance. In naming its author, we at Logically hope to allow for Allen-Walker to receive the same scrutiny that other media organizations must face, rather than allowing him to continue to make false allegations anonymously.
 

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Yes what a truly reliable and honest publication that is........




A Logically investigation can reveal that Jonathan Allen-Walker of Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire is behind the conspiracy news site, The Daily Expose.
The Daily Expose is a U.K.-focused conspiracy site created in November of last year, and since its establishment, it has promoted a standard portfolio of COVID-denialist, anti-vaxxer, and Great Reset myths framed as breaking news. It has grown to be extremely influential in the alt-news ecosystem, with its articles getting thousands of shares per day on Telegram, Twitter, and other private chat channels. Although the website is less than a year old, it has grown by more than 300,000 page views per month since January, with the last data available suggesting it had more than 1.5 million total cumulative views.
Unusually for a conspiracy site, The Daily Expose produces original content several times per day, rather than resharing memes or articles from elsewhere. On its “about” page, it claims to use only official documents from government or scientific sources to write its stories. The writers often distort or misinterpret the information within the snapshots of the documents they use to push a number of conspiratorial narratives. For instance, The Daily Expose has claimed that vaccines were approved without any sort of safety checks and that vaccines are causing mass death.
The writers and contributors don’t request interviews with scientists, government officials, or other qualified experts to make sure they’re interpreting these documents correctly. Nor do they give the right of reply to any of the institutions or figures they are reporting on, which is an expected journalistic practice.
The Daily Expose has fielded interviews with fringe figures, for instance, Mike Yeadon, but the interviews take the form of a transcript of their opinions, which are neither questioned nor fact checked. Because the writer or writers have been anonymous to this point, they have not been able to be held accountable for their content, nor do they have wider connections to any journalists who can vouch for their work. All of these factors make the website an extremely dangerous platform for misinformation, as it carries the weight of official documents without the transparency or accountability of reputable science or journalism.
The Daily Expose’s first posts are from November 2020. In March, Twitter suspended its main account, but almost immediately The Daily Expose was able to make a succession of alt accounts to get around the ban. At least five accounts were created at various stages after the initial ban. After the second ban, The Daily Expose made sure to run pairs of accounts so that individual account bans wouldn’t result in a complete loss of followers or lack of ability to tweet. The ban-evading accounts would always point followers to the paired account, accusing Twitter of censorship. Generally, accounts were set up with different phone numbers and email accounts from different providers, though they included similar bios, images, and headers, while also all linking to The Daily Expose website. Presently, two of their alts remain operational and have 18k and 14k followers respectively. A full 65 percent of their referrals come from Twitter.
The articles are all anonymous, signed online with a “Daily Expose” byline, save for a regular column written by Emily Smith of Leeds, who uses the WordPress handle captaindaretofly, and other occasional one-time contributors. On her other social media, Smith does not post anonymously.
It is not clear that Smith knows who runs the website. On a podcast episode with two other conspiracy content creators, Denty and Shaz, she says that she contributes articles voluntarily rather than for money. Smith did not respond to a request for comment.
In a video posted to The Daily Expose’s page, Denty and Shaz are credited as the creators of the video. The Daily Expose also has a YouTube channel with 1.8k subscribers, with videos made in a similar style posted every week or so. Denty and Shaz also did not respond to a request for comment.
It is unclear exactly how many contributors The Daily Expose has, or whether it has any permanent staff beyond Allen-Walker. Several tweets from its account suggest that the operation has multiple people involved.
The finances of the operation are unclear. It has run monthly fundraising efforts since at least February from its homepage, Twitter, and Telegram. There are a few other sporadic attempts at Crowdfunding on other platforms, with one campaign on Buy Me A Coffee yielding over £3600 in donations, but another on GoFundMe registering zero. No details were found for businesses registered with Allen-Walker’s information on Companies House.
When our reporters reached out for comment, Allen-Walker did not respond.
Trail of investigation
Clicking on The Daily Expose’s byline brings up the author page for the owner of the WordPress account, jonnywalkersb. An archive shows that jonnywalkersb.wordpress.com redirects to dailyexpose.co.uk.

Archived versions of the page reveal that it used to be the homepage for J&M Mechanical and Fabrication LTD in Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire.


Early whois records show that jandmltd.co.uk was registered by Jonathan Allen-Walker of Gainsborough before the details were later hidden from the public.
Cached data on Google suggests that the jonnywalkersb WordPress was used to run the J&M homepage. A phone number registered to The Daily Expose matches the number saved in the cached data for J&M.

Jonny Allen-Walker’s Facebook page showed an ad for the business, asking his friends to contact him for a job.

Furthermore, on The Daily Expose’s site, a PDF is available with metadata showing that it was created by Jonny Allen-Walker and J&M. An archived early version of the site from November 2020 shows a weather app locally registered to Scunthorpe.

When our reporters initially called the phone number associated with The Daily Expose, the person who answered claimed that our reporters had the wrong number. Within minutes of this call, Logically’s main account and our reporter’s account were blocked on Twitter by The Daily Expose.
A few minutes after the phone call, Allen-Walker’s Facebook page, which had been previously unavailable, was reactivated. Logically managed to capture a number of screenshots of Jonny Allen-Walker’s Facebook page before it was deactivated again, including several anti-vax memes, and the above advertisement for J&M.
Impact
The Daily Expose has been one of the most influential platforms for medical misinformation in the U.K., even though it appeared only at the end of 2020. Many who work in tracking disinformation have encountered it multiple times over the past nine months, and continue to encounter it almost daily. Nearly every influential figure in the lockdown-skeptic and anti-COVID-vax movements have either used it as a platform to broadcast their own points of view or to persuade others that officials are “hiding the truth” from the public. It carries the gloss of truth without the substance. In naming its author, we at Logically hope to allow for Allen-Walker to receive the same scrutiny that other media organizations must face, rather than allowing him to continue to make false allegations anonymously.

from the government! Not sure how much evidence people want to see, but good luck people! Vax or not go doggies!!
 

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from the government! Not sure how much evidence people want to see, but good luck people! Vax or not go doggies!!
You’re trolling, right?
You do know who Bitchute are:
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How a false science ‘cure’ became Australia’s contribution to the pandemic
By Harriet Alexander and Clair Weaver
October 22, 2021 — 5.00am

When veteran scientist Craig Rayner saw Australian laboratory results had been published that suggested the drug ivermectin could potentially fight COVID-19, he felt a sense of dread.
The experienced drug developer was aware experiments with ivermectin had been performed. Two weeks earlier, researchers at the Monash Biomedicine Discovery Institute had sought his opinion on some laboratory tests that showed the drug could stop the SARS-Cov-2 virus from growing in cell culture.
Sydney gastroenterologist Thomas Borody has patented an ivermectin therapy for COVID-19 patients.

Sydney gastroenterologist Thomas Borody has patented an ivermectin therapy for COVID-19 patients.CREDIT:WOLTER PEETERS
The results were tantalising. Ivermectin is a commonly used and inexpensive antiparasitic to treat worms in animals and lice and scabies in humans. It was March 2020. The pandemic was in its ascendancy and there was no vaccine in sight.
But although Dr Rayner agreed at the time that the results were interesting, they were nowhere close to proving ivermectin could treat COVID-19 in real life. For a start, the dose required to kill the virus in a test tube was many multiples higher than the dosage approved for human use.

He discussed the results with a colleague, Mark Sullivan, and they agreed the next step was to check if the drug had the same effect in a dose safe for humans, which they conveyed to the researchers. It was a busy time for drug developers. Their minds moved on to other things.
So they were startled to learn on April 3 that the Monash study had been published in the Antiviral Research journal and announced in a press release titled “Lab experiments show anti-parasitic drug ivermectin eliminates SARS-Cov-2 in cells in 48 hours”. Ivermectin was safe, widely used and approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in the United States, the press release said. And it could potentially be used to fight COVID-19.
No cure for coronavirus: ivermectin tablets.

No cure for coronavirus: ivermectin tablets.CREDIT:BLOOMBERG
“It was incredibly hyped,” Dr Rayner said. “I knew it was going to start a fire.”
Eighteen months later, the evidence to show ivermectin cures COVID-19 in humans remains elusive, yet the fire ignited by that preliminary data has swept the world. Demand for the drug has skyrocketed, causing shortages. Veterinarians in Romania cannot get stock to treat dogs for scabies and ranchers in South Carolina cannot get enough to worm their cattle. Hospitals everywhere have reported overdoses. And people continue to die of COVID-19 while taking ivermectin.

“It’s not the best thing for Australia to become known for in terms of its contribution to the pandemic,” Dr Rayner said. “But that’s what it is, unfortunately. It has promoted vaccine hesitancy and people are dying because they’re taking a veterinary medicine that has not been proven.”
The fire spreads
Within weeks of the Monash study being published, research efforts were diverted to ivermectin and clinical trials were registered in several countries.
In April, the American healthcare analytics company Surgisphere published a preprint (meaning it was not subjected to peer review) that purported to show a strong positive association between ivermectin and COVID-19 patient survival. Surgisphere would later be exposed for scientific fraud and the data would be retracted, but only after it had been used in studies published in the high-profile New England Journal of Medicine and The Lancet. Some countries included ivermectin in treatment guidelines. Enthusiasm for the drug continued unabated.

An Iranian study showed an 80 per cent reduction in mortality. A Lebanese study showed reduced hospitalisation. Both were later found to contain major flaws. An influential Egyptian preprint found a 90 per cent reduction in mortality for patients taking ivermectin. The website later retracted the article amid fraud claims – some patients had died before the study started, among other concerns – but it had been cited by 30 other studies in the interim and included in meta-analyses that amplified its findings. The meta-analyses continue to be quoted as proof of the drug’s efficacy.
Belief in ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19 has taken root despite a lack of scientific evidence.

Belief in ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19 has taken root despite a lack of scientific evidence.CREDIT:BLOOMBERG
By November 2020, the Monash study had been referenced in 450 journals. Dr Rayner addressed a conference on COVID-19 drugs organised by the American Association of Pharmaceutical Science and cautioned against using ivermectin. “We’re hoping [it] will not become the next hydroxychloroquine,” he said.
Then, on December 8, US physician Dr Pierre Kory appeared before a US Senate committee and described ivermectin as miraculous. “If you take it, you will not get sick.”
The clip was viewed over a million times, according to the Associated Press, before YouTube took it down – which only served to raise its profile. Conservative commentators cried censorship, anti-vaccination activists co-opted the drug for their purposes and ivermectin prescriptions surged by 2400 per cent over the pre-pandemic weekly average in the United States. In South Africa, a black market developed.

Kyle Sheldrick, a medical doctor and researcher at the University of NSW, has scrutinised 29 of the most influential studies on ivermectin and found the only studies to show a statistically significant improvement in mortality have turned out to be false. But belief in ivermectin has taken root.
“Once the idea that something works is in the popular domain, winding it back is almost impossible,” Dr Sheldrick said.
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More recently, large clinical trials have shown marginal to zero benefit from ivermectin in COVID-19 patients. A Cochrane review, which is considered the gold standard in analysing scientific research, found there was not enough evidence to say whether ivermectin was effective against COVID-19. The TOGETHER trial, conducted by Canada’s McMaster University and involving 9000 patients, was terminated in August because it did not demonstrate a statistical effect.
Dr Sheldrick said it should not be surprising that so many of the first trials were flawed. “A lot of these trials came out incredibly quickly,” he said. “Legitimate trials take longer than fake trials.”

Last month, Australia’s Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) banned the off-label prescribing of ivermectin, citing the public health risk and national shortages created by a three- to four-fold increase in prescriptions.
Monash University has moderated its original press release to highlight disclaimers about the drug’s effectiveness and added a warning against ivermectin put out by the US’s FDA.
The university said in a statement it had always been clear that ivermectin was effective at killing the virus in a lab environment and further testing and clinical trials would be needed to establish the effectiveness of the drug at levels safe for humans. It still intended to conduct these trials.
“The university remains committed to making its research results known in a timely manner,” the statement said. “It is important that significant research findings – particularly during times of global crises like COVID-19 – are shared with the broader research and medical community to enable a greater effort to solve such problems.”
Promotion Down Under

Australia has its own ivermectin evangelists, most prominently Sydney gastroenterologist Thomas Borody. Dr Borody, who developed a therapy for peptic ulcers in the 1980s, has been a driving force behind faecal transplants and treated Labor politicians including Bob Hawke and Ian Macdonald.
Last year Dr Borody announced via press release that he had discovered a “cure” for COVID-19: a triple therapy of ivermectin, zinc and doxycycline. Ivermectin has since been championed by federal politicians Craig Kelly and George Christensen. Dr Borody’s research was quoted by the plaintiffs seeking to challenge mandatory vaccination in NSW.
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“The biggest thing about this is no one will make money from this,” Dr Borody told 2GB’s Chris Smith in August 2020. “So there’s no big pharma behind it. I mean, one ivermectin tablet costs $2. It’s the cheapest, fastest way – with fewest side effects – to end this pandemic.”
Smith: “So you don’t have the lobbyists for the pharmaceutical companies banging on the door of the federal health minister, for instance?”

“That’s probably why it’s not getting through.”
The Herald does not suggest Dr Borody does not genuinely believe in ivermectin as a treatment, but he does stand to profit from the drug. The drug by itself is off-patent and therefore unprofitable, but his company Topelia Australia owns the global patent rights to his triple therapy and is raising money to support clinical trials.
A US-based trial found it had a 100 per cent survival rate among moderate to severe COVID-19 patients without hospitalisation and a rapid resolution of hypoxia. But the trial had 24 patients and Dr Sheldrick has pointed out that the patients in a synthetic “control” group were older and sicker than those who took ivermectin.
Dr Borody said patents were necessary because nobody would fund the trials otherwise. He has applied for 196 patents since the 1980s, covering inventions in his specialty area of gut health and extending to treatments for autism, obsessive-compulsive disorder and Parkinson’s disease. His peptic ulcer cure, which is now widely used, was initially derided as well, he said, and more than 600 COVID-19 patients had benefited from his triple therapy. “Essentially, this works.” The results are yet to be published.
The ‘Big Pharma’ conspiracy

The claim that Big Pharma has a vested interest in preventing ivermectin from being adopted as a COVID-19 treatment is a common thread among those who promote the drug. There is little argument pharmaceutical companies have no commercial incentive to repurpose off-patent drugs. The regulatory process is expensive because authorities require high-quality evidence that medicines are safe and effective.
Glenn Begley, an international biotechnology consultant, said the regulatory process was an essential element of bringing new medicines to market, but academic research was not subjected to the same rigour. Besides, academics had a vested interest too.
Dr Glenn Begley, left, with John Brumby, the chairman of the translational research group BioCurate.

Dr Glenn Begley, left, with John Brumby, the chairman of the translational research group BioCurate. CREDIT:PHOTO: PETER CASAMENTO
In 2012, Dr Begley reviewed all the oncology drugs his company Amgen had investigated over the preceding 10 years and found 90 per cent of the projects it had pursued based on studies published in major journals were later terminated. This was because the original researchers were unable to replicate their results when Amgen asked them to repeat the experiments blind. None of those papers had been retracted, he said.
“The real purpose for academics is to get their paper published,” Dr Begley said. “You’ve just got to get published to get the next research grant.”

Ivermectin was a case in point.
“The preclinical work about ivermectin should never have been published,” Dr Begley said. “The university was aware that there were problems with this research before it was published, but it went ahead anyway. And the truth is that in the fullness of time, Australia will be embarrassed by this story.”

 

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US troops encouraged occupy Australia over COVID restrictions

Who is this chick? Clive Palmers love child?
 

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Pretty much. She's a shock jock who constantly pushes the most crazy Libertarian/Conservative memes.
Don't know - checked her wiki and she made comments about Trumps little weiner. That doesn't sound crazy to me...
 

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US troops encouraged occupy Australia over COVID restrictions

Great idea Candice. Because the US generally goes really well in countries it invades doesn’t it...
Wonder if she’s ever left her state…
 

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COVID-deniers and anti-vaxxers have been told they should opt out from the public health system if they are infected — by Victoria’s AMA, Guardian Australia reports. The fairly stark words came from state AMA president Roderick McRae and come as many Victorians emerge from lockdown today. Curfews are gone, some kids head back to school, and seated service in pubs, cafes, and restaurants is back, as ABC explains. But McRae, himself an intensive care physician, said many health care workers are already flogged from consecutive outbreaks and advised the “passionate disbelievers” to let “nature run its course” if they get infected in the eased restrictions. Ouch. But is that really the right message? City of Melbourne councillor Rohan Leppert tweeted it was a “reprehensible idea” while Georgetown Law immunology professor Alexandra Phelan called the words “a complete antithesis to public health”.

Meanwhile in Queensland, police are trying to understand how infected Gold Coast resident Duran Raman travelled to Sydney and Melbourne during the peak of each city’s outbreak before heading home, the Brisbane Times says. It is not clear when Duran, who is 34 and played for Broadbeach’s AFL team, contracted COVID on his interstate jaunt. Duran is on oxygen and so severely ill, the paper continues, that he hasn’t been able to speak to contact tracers, though they’ve pieced together some exposure sites. Friends reportedly told the Brisbane Times that Raman regularly posts anti-vaccination videos on his social media.
 

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Don't know - checked her wiki and she made comments about Trumps little weiner. That doesn't sound crazy to me...
She is a funny one. She used to write a blog many years back that criticised Trump for his small weiner, then when he became President she became extremely pro-Trump to the point that Trump praised her and organised one-on-one interviews with her. Then when he lost, she was one of the people claiming that the election was rigged.

Now days she just pushes anti-vax stuff like the Bill Gates invented the virus conspiracy.
 

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@Rodzilla awaiting your apology. 24 hours :tearsofjoy:.
another piece of shit article on behalf of the terrorists, this is what happens when there is trillions of dollars on the line and ivermectin is the threat to it, its like how cigarette companies planted doubt for decades

the article is very low on detail, for example the kyle sheldrick finding a third of the studies to be fake because the last number in the column of peoples ages/weight was not evenly distributed, like only 7% of people had 3 (53kg) when it should be about 10%

people apparently dying and hospitals everywhere having ivermectin poison, ive heard very few reports of people dying after taking ivermectin (1, it should be many thousands) and the article is so one sided it didn't say that the major newspapers had to correct an article that 70% of callers to the poison center was just 2%, also if the Rodzilla died from covid you could incorrectly make it look like i was someone who was taking ivermectin and died

there is zero evidence that ivermectin doesn't work, don't be confused by "no evidence that ivermectin works" and think that the studies are showing that ivermectin doesn't work, all the studies show that ivermectin works and they decided its not enough evidence in each of the studies

compare it to the new merck drug, after 1 study the media is ready for it to be approved and used
 

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if the truth ever comes out then the people in this thread who supported the corporate terrorist takeover should be treated like nazi collaborators
 

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im going to go through every major study in world history, when the people listed have too many of a last number in a category then i can call that study a fake and everyone can assume its fake

too many people have number ending 4 in their age, its fake, not that they randomly got a group of people who happened to be something 4 years old

this article proves that nothing matters anymore and its full scale war to get the vaccines through
 
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