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He doesn't have the skillset, why is he suddenly going to develop it at NRL level? He is dead average and has few things going for him. He isn't going to magically learn these things he didn't learn in 22 years.
I'm less and less optimistic that Lewis will make it but there's still a chance...

But you're much more patient with Meaney when he's played as many FG games as Lewis. If anything, Meaney looks less physically capable of being a star at his position than Lewis and has shown less attacking flashes in that time but has been more consistent...

Personally, I have my doubts about both but wonder why you're more certain about Lewis not having "it", but not Meaney? I'm not having a go, it's a genuine question.
 

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I'm less and less optimistic that Lewis will make it but there's still a chance...

But you're much more patient with Meaney when he's played as many FG games as Lewis. If anything, Meaney looks less physically capable of being a star at his position than Lewis and has shown less attacking flashes in that time but has been more consistent...

Personally, I have my doubts about both but wonder why you're more certain about Lewis not having "it", but not Meaney? I'm not having a go, it's a genuine question.
Because I've already seen Meaney demonstrate much of the skillset required, with Lewis I haven't. Meaney is at the point where he needs to implement it at a firstgrade level, whether he actually does is a different matter, but for the time being I'm far more confident with him moving forward than Lewis.

But yes, like you I'd ideally have neither of them and have better options available.
 

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Is Lachlan Lewis the next immortal?

I've only seen the Kennel forum toot his toothpick.

Listening to past and current players along with coaches, there opinions of Lachlan Lewis has been "very average player"
 

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Has a kicking game, brave defender, has pace, can pass left or right, is a competitor, believes he is good enough and most of all still has a contract to play for the dogs (for the moment..) and is probably on crap money.
Is that you Lachlan.
 

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Because I've already seen Meaney demonstrate much of the skillset required, with Lewis I haven't. Meaney is at the point where he needs to implement it at a firstgrade level, whether he actually does is a different matter, but for the time being I'm far more confident with him moving forward than Lewis.

But yes, like you I'd ideally have neither of them and have better options available.
Fair enough. Unfortunately right now we're basically arguing semantics about which player has been less unimpressive which is depressing.
 

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Fair enough. Unfortunately right now we're basically arguing semantics about which player has been less unimpressive which is depressing.
Yh we suck :(
 

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I think Lewis probably has a few things going on at the moment, and with a newborn and sleep deprivation added for good measure.

He's definitely trying out there (even in NSW Cup - which I'll have to watch on replay this week), but missing the mark (like those wayward passes last week).

A good coach would realise his potential, figure out where he best fits into our 17, and then work with him to get the best out of him in that position.
 

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Straight 18 you played under Pay at Dubbo? and earlier posts you were very hostile with people who were critisizing the appointment of Pay and you backed him to the hilt I recall. You certainly have done a 180 on that.

I admit I also thought it was a good idea. Dean turned league around in our Qld town when he coached here and the team won the premiership after being nobodies for some time. He enlivened the whole vibe for our town back to league. Had a pub with Mal Meninga etc and the place was pumping.

We were wrong hey. NRL first grade coaching too big a step up for Dean..bloody hard with our poor roster but it probably makes it all the more important for him to recognise what talent we do have and use it the right way.

We can't have players out of position, already limited ability players switched to their unfavoured side, split partnerships, no specialist mentor coaching for inexperienced new players, favs allowed to coast along while singling out others to be unnecessarily publicly dropped for airy fairy flimsy reasons by comparison.

I don't think there is one single week where Dean has done that. The fact that he hasn't tried the obvious team selections, has now caused him to lose respect.
Yeah man i think i was a bit blinded by enormous succes. I really wanted him to succeed he is not a terrible man.
But watching from a distance out of his depth i can also see now he was making them same mistakes all them years ago.
Im sure u know exactly what im talking about then. I was hoping he would carry that success to our bulldogs.
And yes i backed him to the hilt and he has had his chance,
I flipped about 20 mins into the opening round one game against warriors.
But at least we can admit it wendog hey.
 

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I think Lewis probably has a few things going on at the moment, and with a newborn and sleep deprivation added for good measure.

He's definitely trying out there (even in NSW Cup - which I'll have to watch on replay this week), but missing the mark (like those wayward passes last week).

A good coach would realise his potential, figure out where he best fits into our 17, and then work with him to get the best out of him in that position.
Well not pay. Two nz reps for backrowers playing reggies. But we have elliot lol.
 

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Lol no, your evaluation is so far off. Has pace? Are you taking the piss? Lol
Oops, my bad. I should have noticed your 26,000 comments.. How silly of me to think my opinion is wrong just because you dont agree. Like i said about opinions, we all have one.
 

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I haven't been posting much at all, because of the old "if you have nothing nice to say" rule, but really..... In my humble opinion, our current squad is worse than our famously bad 2008 squad, I think we are currently at a all time low for my lifetime. If you are struggling to prove yourself as a fixture in THIS first grade team, then your not caged, your just not very good.

He needs to be better, or just leave. Up side to where the club stands right now is there is literally not a single player in the entire squad that we NEED to keep, only the younger ones will be around when we make a come back, and we'll need a core group of them, so we can just cut the difficult ones for now.
 

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Looks like the Cogger v Lewis debate will take a back seat for a while he left Belmore in a moon boot after today’s game.
 

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Looks like the Cogger v Lewis debate will take a back seat for a while he left Belmore in a moon boot after today’s game.
Time for Indian dog to be released now haha
 

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I wouldn't have thought Lewis would be a dummy spitter like this. He copped the news that he could look elsewhere on the chin and knuckled down last year. So I suspect that his amateurish manager is behind this. Like most money hungry types he knows that NRL exposure in the halves correlates directly with a fatter pay cheque for the manager.

I think that Lewis is in a position right now where the pressure of steering an underperforming team round the paddock wouldn't be helping his development. He's an instinctive player that is ultimately very competitive. He seems to be hard on himself too. In my opinion those aspects of his personality would point towards him being a team player. I'd be inclined to think that it's his manager trying to pull the clubs strings.
 

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I wouldn't have thought Lewis would be a dummy spitter like this. He copped the news that he could look elsewhere on the chin and knuckled down last year. So I suspect that his amateurish manager is behind this. Like most money hungry types he knows that NRL exposure in the halves correlates directly with a fatter pay cheque for the manager.

I think that Lewis is in a position right now where the pressure of steering an underperforming team round the paddock wouldn't be helping his development. He's an instinctive player that is ultimately very competitive. He seems to be hard on himself too. In my opinion those aspects of his personality would point towards him being a team player. I'd be inclined to think that it's his manager trying to pull the clubs strings.
Your right this is all either paper crap or Managers doing. From what i have been told their currently is no issue with lewis and the club.
 

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I think Lewis probably has a few things going on at the moment, and with a newborn and sleep deprivation added for good measure.

He's definitely trying out there (even in NSW Cup - which I'll have to watch on replay this week), but missing the mark (like those wayward passes last week).

A good coach would realise his potential, figure out where he best fits into our 17, and then work with him to get the best out of him in that position.
Right now he would be a gun utility in any team... Can basically fill in at any spot across the park, similar to what jmk provided but atleast this kid can pull rabbits out of his hat.
 
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