Yeah funny eh??Ok Greta.
Seriously, I get it.
There was a time when Australian foresters kept Australian forests safe and productive. They maintained access tracks bridges and fire breaks, undertook prescribed burning, cleared flammable litter from the forest floor, cut suckers, manned fire lookouts and maintained their own fire-fighting crews in decentralised districts. University-trained professional foresters were supported by tough experienced rangers who learned their job in the bush.Australian flora and fauna have developed strategies to cope with bush fire over thousands of years and are a necessary part of the ecology,obviously they more intense a Fire becomes the more it affects the ecology.The intensity of the current fires are man made but it’s got fuck all to do with global warming,these fires are created by excessive fuel load on the ground they become so intense the become canopy fires and generate their own weather systems,very little can survive these fires.
The fuel loads that are burning now where created by locking up vast areas of national park to grazing animals.The reduction/outlawing of back burning to reduce emissions and the outlawing of any type of land clearing for fire breaks etc.
So congratulations to the greens who with the help of the Labour Party made all these fine pieces of legislation a reality.
Thank you professor of all professorsEveryone is a professor except the actual professors.
Wut?Yeah funny eh??
Agree. We have had fires as bad as this before, even 100 years ago, so if its global warming, its in slowmo and been the same for ages. But the government used to do more backburning and fire prevention than it does now, so when a fire happens, theres a lot of fuel for it. Being so dry is also a big factor, but i believe thats more to do with us being on the dry end of the El Nino/El Nina thing where countries on one side of it get more rain than usual and the others less rain than normal, and its changes ends every now and then. I am grateful the local govt here still do burnoffs in winter since I am next to bush here. I don't love it at the time though , it's stinks for a few weeks when they do it. But it's better than losing a house.Australian flora and fauna have developed strategies to cope with bush fire over thousands of years and are a necessary part of the ecology,obviously the more intense a Fire becomes the more it affects the ecology.The intensity of the current fires are man made but it’s got fuck all to do with global warming,these fires are created by excessive fuel load on the ground they become so intense the become canopy fires and generate their own weather systems,very little can survive these fires.
The fuel loads that are burning now where created by locking up vast areas of national park to grazing animals.The reduction/outlawing of back burning to reduce emissions and the outlawing of any type of land clearing for fire breaks etc.
So congratulations to the greens who with the help of the Labour Party made all these fine pieces of legislation a reality.
I'm a professor at Bovine UniversityEveryone is a professor except the actual professors.
Well said mateThere was a time when Australian foresters kept Australian forests safe and productive. They maintained access tracks bridges and fire breaks, undertook prescribed burning, cleared flammable litter from the forest floor, cut suckers, manned fire lookouts and maintained their own fire-fighting crews in decentralised districts. University-trained professional foresters were supported by tough experienced rangers who learned their job in the bush.
Almost every advance in bushfire management in Australia, from the science of fire behaviour to aerial burning was thanks to our foresters. Into the 1980’s they were regarded as international leaders.
To pay for good forest management, sections of the forest were logged, allowing ground space and sunlight for the swift re-growth of new trees.
And those fading die-hards still beating alarm drums about man-made global warming should be reassured - the use of hardwood and softwood timber in power poles, telephone poles, bridges, wharves, posts, sleepers, haysheds and houses provided long term sequestration of the dreaded carbon. Moreover, growing trees extract CO2 more quickly than mature trees. Win, win, win.
Then we entered the Green Era. Foresters and timber-getters were demonised by urban greens, their tame bureaucrats and academics, and their ABC mates. State forests were converted to National Parks and Wilderness Areas and John Howard created the hated Kyoto Protocol Forests on private land. Timber imports rose.
Every locked-up, un-managed, un-burnt forest inevitably breeds disastrous wild-fires. The combination of heavy fuel load, poor access for fire fighters, drought, hot winds, arsonists and dry lightning has only one assured outcome – a bushfire tragedy for the forest and the neighbours. (Why are no greens chaining themselves to trees now?)
This must change. No enquiries are needed. Anyone without green blinkers can see the evidence daily. So, cut the locks, open the tracks and remove the trash. Then call tenders from local people to use recreation, tourism, timber getting or hunting feral animals to fund proper care and maintenance of our forests. A well-managed forest can pay for its own management and also keep the community safe and happy.
Control must be local. Local Foresters and local fire Wardens must call the shots on when/how to reduce flammable litter, weeds and suckers. Everyone should have the right (maybe the obligation), to fire proof their own properties and boundaries. There should be no more national parks – just local parks. And arson should be treated as terrorism.
The State governments can provide weather forecasts, bushfire warnings, radar information, aerial support and TV performances.
The Feds should return some of their tax receipts to help us to restore the forests we have lost, but otherwise they should keep out of the way.
The urban greens have had their moment in the sun. They seized management of Australian forests from Australian Foresters, and have had every opportunity over the last 25 years to apply their evergreen theories on bushfire management. The result is there for everyone to observe - total and tragic failure.
Far too many bushfires start in National Parks. Few stay in the Parks.
It’s time to get sensible forest policies and professional forest managers back on the job.
Get rid of the Red Bull and the Green Fairies – bring back the White Knights.
I'm not the professor of all professors, but I do have a doctorate in hysterical leftology from the Greta Thunberg academy!Thank you professor of all professors
Yeah time to go hide under the bed with the rest of the green stooges give my regards to bob brown when you see himI'm not the professor of all professors, but I do have a doctorate in hysterical leftology from the Greta Thunberg academy!
Seriously, I never claimed to be a professor, but the science is definitely on my side. You have a nice day, now.
But isn’t it also strawman (if I’m using this word correctly) that whilst they’re not saying explicitly climate change started the fires they’re also not saying arsonists started them and are talking a shit load more about climate change inferring that it indeed is climate change (really global warming but climate change sounds more scientifically sound and less gayish man bear pigish) starting the fires.I'm not saying arsonists didn't start the fires. You and several others claimed that climate change couldn't have started the fires because arsonists started them.
Im merely pointing out that what you are presenting is a strawman as people aren't saying "Climate change started the fires"
The leading advocates of the Climate Change movement are politicians, entertainers, and even children. Climate preachers such as Al Gore and Leonardo DiCaprio lack any formal scientific training whatsoever, and live personal lives of unparalleled luxury while prescribing carbon austerity for the masses.I'm not the professor of all professors, but I do have a doctorate in hysterical leftology from the Greta Thunberg academy!
Seriously, I never claimed to be a professor, but the science is definitely on my side. You have a nice day, now.
That’s one articleThis one is from The Guardian. King of the leftist media:
The link between rising greenhouse gas emissions and increased bushfire risk is complex but, according to major science agencies, clear. Climate change does not create bushfires but it can and does make them worse.
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...etween-climate-change-and-bushfires-explainer
It's kind of the other way around on both points.Agree. We have had fires as bad as this before, even 100 years ago, so if its global warming, its in slowmo and been the same for ages. But the government used to do more backburning and fire prevention than it does now, so when a fire happens, theres a lot of fuel for it. Being so dry is also a big factor, but i believe thats more to do with us being on the dry end of the El Nino/El Nina thing where countries on one side of it get more rain than usual and the others less rain than normal, and its changes ends every now and then. I am grateful the local govt here still do burnoffs in winter since I am next to bush here. I don't love it at the time though , it's stinks for a few weeks when they do it. But it's better than losing a house.
Yep. Still waiting for you to show me the articles that say "climate change started the fires"That’s one article
It's a complicated issue. Size of fires and loss of life can't support or deny climate influence as there's hundreds of other factors involved including location of the fires, amount of fuel load, and modern technology and fire fighting tactics.This might be an interesting discussion point:
If there has been bigger fires (by area) before (many decades ago), and worse fires (by loss of human life before) (many decades ago), then why is it suddenly climate change exacerbating these fires but not previously?
Not really. I mean, you just threw out the se strawman there again as they're really not even insinuating that climate change started the fires.But isn’t it also strawman (if I’m using this word correctly) that whilst they’re not saying explicitly climate change started the fires they’re also not saying arsonists started them and are talking a shit load more about climate change inferring that it indeed is climate change (really global warming but climate change sounds more scientifically sound and less gayish man bear pigish) starting the fires.
Yeh sadly they say more than half of all fires are purposely lit or accidentally lit by doing stuff like throwing ciggie butts out car windows. The climate may make the fires worse, but the dickheads lighting them are the bigger issue.Yep. Still waiting for you to show me the articles that say "climate change started the fires"
I'll wait.
I'm not hiding, I'm just trying to abide by the requests of mods and to not to get caught up in the game of belittling and caricaturing my ideological opposites. You should try that.Yeah time to go hide under the bed with the rest of the green stooges give my regards to bob brown when you see him