Burton to 7

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Will Burton be glued to the left just with a 7 on his back or will Ciraldo I suppose challenge him in a way to lead the ship or atleast take more control. Taking that guy with a roosters background on his Twitter still out the team makes the side stronger inevitably and is more progressive in the long term. The Kylie guy throws the ball to ground once a game, gets a player or three clattered each game and has the kicking game of the average backyard Samoan father. Who in all likelihood would have a better running game, and game IQ and would cost a fifth of the price for triple the impact. In more simple terms KO is taking the place of the worst half in the history of rugby league, the passing mark is that low even 1 post contact metre will have me frothing.
 

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they talked about changes on 360 tonight

- they were not happy that he wasn't getting his hands on the ball and they felt he went missing in key moments basically gave 7 to burton as a symbol this is your team Matt and now we want him to own it

- gave Flanagan 6 as they want give him less responsibility and simplify his role

- here’s no ducks and drakes, Kyle will be playing five-eighth (at least this week)
Agree that the NRL360 review is the closest to being accurate in the intentions of CC.
What is pathetic is the pile on from the Flanagan haters.
So it's Flanagans fault that Thompson, Kikau, Brown, TPJ, and now Kiraz and JAC have been injured? That Averillo and King are carrying injuries?, that refs have murdered our chances in games by rubbish penalties, Preston to sin bin for nothing etc etc etc.
The reason we have 4 losses is Kyle Flanagan. The fact Mahoney overplayed his hand because he was vilified by hatred dripping Eels supporters, was again Flanagans fault.
The fact Burton drifts in and out of games? You guessed it.....Flanagans fault.
Here's a question....How good would Cooper Cronk of been as a half if he had a mediocre team around him, or an inexperienced team, or a mistake riddled team or a team struggling to find cohesion due to injuries? You lot would call for his head.
The fact is Flanagan has not played poorly this year. Many things have not gone his or our way. Yes he's made some poor 5th tackle options. Yes he's not a Cleary or Hynes or Reynolds. He's no worse than Souths Illes though in all seriousness....whose had the luxury of having a settled superior roster, with far more experience in Cook, Murray and Walker and Mitchell to assist him.
Sure our future lies with KO. When he's ready he will be promoted. It may come in the next few weeks....only the coaches know.
To me the message is more to Burton. This is your team, you've been made co Captain. Your the guy on the big contract, so go out and own the result each week. Every week. The message to Flanagan is, use your passing game and deception to swing right to left to set up the backs for attacking raids as Burton has seriously struggled to do that.
 

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Agree that the NRL360 review is the closest to being accurate in the intentions of CC.
What is pathetic is the pile on from the Flanagan haters.
So it's Flanagans fault that Thompson, Kikau, Brown, TPJ, and now Kiraz and JAC have been injured? That Averillo and King are carrying injuries?, that refs have murdered our chances in games by rubbish penalties, Preston to sin bin for nothing etc etc etc.
The reason we have 4 losses is Kyle Flanagan. The fact Mahoney overplayed his hand because he was vilified by hatred dripping Eels supporters, was again Flanagans fault.
The fact Burton drifts in and out of games? You guessed it.....Flanagans fault.
Here's a question....How good would Cooper Cronk of been as a half if he had a mediocre team around him, or an inexperienced team, or a mistake riddled team or a team struggling to find cohesion due to injuries? You lot would call for his head.
The fact is Flanagan has not played poorly this year. Many things have not gone his or our way. Yes he's made some poor 5th tackle options. Yes he's not a Cleary or Hynes or Reynolds. He's no worse than Souths Illes though in all seriousness....whose had the luxury of having a settled superior roster, with far more experience in Cook, Murray and Walker and Mitchell to assist him.
Sure our future lies with KO. When he's ready he will be promoted. It may come in the next few weeks....only the coaches know.
To me the message is more to Burton. This is your team, you've been made co Captain. Your the guy on the big contract, so go out and own the result each week. Every week. The message to Flanagan is, use your passing game and deception to swing right to left to set up the backs for attacking raids as Burton has seriously struggled to do that.
Yea flanno is shit
 

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Agree that the NRL360 review is the closest to being accurate in the intentions of CC.
What is pathetic is the pile on from the Flanagan haters.
So it's Flanagans fault that Thompson, Kikau, Brown, TPJ, and now Kiraz and JAC have been injured? That Averillo and King are carrying injuries?, that refs have murdered our chances in games by rubbish penalties, Preston to sin bin for nothing etc etc etc.
The reason we have 4 losses is Kyle Flanagan. The fact Mahoney overplayed his hand because he was vilified by hatred dripping Eels supporters, was again Flanagans fault.
The fact Burton drifts in and out of games? You guessed it.....Flanagans fault.
Here's a question....How good would Cooper Cronk of been as a half if he had a mediocre team around him, or an inexperienced team, or a mistake riddled team or a team struggling to find cohesion due to injuries? You lot would call for his head.
The fact is Flanagan has not played poorly this year. Many things have not gone his or our way. Yes he's made some poor 5th tackle options. Yes he's not a Cleary or Hynes or Reynolds. He's no worse than Souths Illes though in all seriousness....whose had the luxury of having a settled superior roster, with far more experience in Cook, Murray and Walker and Mitchell to assist him.
Sure our future lies with KO. When he's ready he will be promoted. It may come in the next few weeks....only the coaches know.
To me the message is more to Burton. This is your team, you've been made co Captain. Your the guy on the big contract, so go out and own the result each week. Every week. The message to Flanagan is, use your passing game and deception to swing right to left to set up the backs for attacking raids as Burton has seriously struggled to do that.
>The fact is Flanagan has not played poorly this year.
Really? How many times has he been caught by the defence in prime attacking positions this year?
Flanno played in a superstar roster and one of the best spines in the comp at the Chooks. How did he go?
 

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Just numbers on the back, nothing more, Burton will still play on the left and Flanagan will still play on the right. They both rarely play on the same side, maybe a handful of times in a game, hardly a big deal. Burton’s running game will suffer if he plays in tight, so I don’t expect that to happen either, he will still be wide, inside the 2nd rower. Burton was always the #1 kicker and nothing changes there.

Swapping numbers alone, so what.

Always a Bulldog
 

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Spot on.
I said Flanno was a dud the moment he signed with us and got flamed by "experts" on TK who said he was our long term HB.
I also said Burton should be 7 when he signed up and got flamed by the same "experts" on TK who said he's not an "organising half".
Given that all the other HB options in 2022 were complete duds it's so obvious that Burton should have been set to be our primary playmaker in the halves in the 2022 pre-season.
This was so crystal clear that surely I cannot be the only one on TK who could see this.
Flanno's kicking game is crap - he can't kick beyond 30m, he can't kick a floating bomb, his short kicking game is terrible, his running game is shite, he is slow physically and between the ears and his passing game is below par. That's just for starters, as a HB his creativity, vision and decision making is the worst in the NRL.
To those experts on TK who have insisted on Flanno explain exactly what is he good at as a HB?
He buys the oranges for half time.
 

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Burton with the #7 jumper on the left and Kyle with the #6 jumper on the right

Just changing numbers and nothing else changes
In other teams (Eg panthers) 7 plays both sides.
6 and 1 stick to a specific side.
Therefore Burton at 7 like Hynes and Cleary will have his hands on ball much more often and both left and right side.
 

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Maybe we can expedite the Flanagan situation by crowd funding a brewery to make a beverage. Probably a zero alcohol special edition.

;Flannys Tears.
a fully salty, benchy orange distributor inspired sour. Ineffective in its intentions, delightful in the temperament change
 

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Agree that the NRL360 review is the closest to being accurate in the intentions of CC.
What is pathetic is the pile on from the Flanagan haters.
So it's Flanagans fault that Thompson, Kikau, Brown, TPJ, and now Kiraz and JAC have been injured? That Averillo and King are carrying injuries?, that refs have murdered our chances in games by rubbish penalties, Preston to sin bin for nothing etc etc etc.
The reason we have 4 losses is Kyle Flanagan. The fact Mahoney overplayed his hand because he was vilified by hatred dripping Eels supporters, was again Flanagans fault.
The fact Burton drifts in and out of games? You guessed it.....Flanagans fault.
Here's a question....How good would Cooper Cronk of been as a half if he had a mediocre team around him, or an inexperienced team, or a mistake riddled team or a team struggling to find cohesion due to injuries? You lot would call for his head.
The fact is Flanagan has not played poorly this year. Many things have not gone his or our way. Yes he's made some poor 5th tackle options. Yes he's not a Cleary or Hynes or Reynolds. He's no worse than Souths Illes though in all seriousness....whose had the luxury of having a settled superior roster, with far more experience in Cook, Murray and Walker and Mitchell to assist him.
Sure our future lies with KO. When he's ready he will be promoted. It may come in the next few weeks....only the coaches know.
To me the message is more to Burton. This is your team, you've been made co Captain. Your the guy on the big contract, so go out and own the result each week. Every week. The message to Flanagan is, use your passing game and deception to swing right to left to set up the backs for attacking raids as Burton has seriously struggled to do that.
What has Flanagan done in a Dogs jersey to endear himself to supporters? He’a been given ample opportunity to own the halfback role and he simply hasn’t produced the quality required
 

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Agree that the NRL360 review is the closest to being accurate in the intentions of CC.
What is pathetic is the pile on from the Flanagan haters.
So it's Flanagans fault that Thompson, Kikau, Brown, TPJ, and now Kiraz and JAC have been injured? That Averillo and King are carrying injuries?, that refs have murdered our chances in games by rubbish penalties, Preston to sin bin for nothing etc etc etc.
The reason we have 4 losses is Kyle Flanagan. The fact Mahoney overplayed his hand because he was vilified by hatred dripping Eels supporters, was again Flanagans fault.
The fact Burton drifts in and out of games? You guessed it.....Flanagans fault.
Here's a question....How good would Cooper Cronk of been as a half if he had a mediocre team around him, or an inexperienced team, or a mistake riddled team or a team struggling to find cohesion due to injuries? You lot would call for his head.
The fact is Flanagan has not played poorly this year. Many things have not gone his or our way. Yes he's made some poor 5th tackle options. Yes he's not a Cleary or Hynes or Reynolds. He's no worse than Souths Illes though in all seriousness....whose had the luxury of having a settled superior roster, with far more experience in Cook, Murray and Walker and Mitchell to assist him.
Sure our future lies with KO. When he's ready he will be promoted. It may come in the next few weeks....only the coaches know.
To me the message is more to Burton. This is your team, you've been made co Captain. Your the guy on the big contract, so go out and own the result each week. Every week. The message to Flanagan is, use your passing game and deception to swing right to left to set up the backs for attacking raids as Burton has seriously struggled to do that.
I take your point about Flanagan not being poor in that he doesn’t make mistakes.
But the half back has a bigger responsibility than that. They have to create things. Take initiative. Take chances. Challenge the line. Create points and opportunities for others.
Flanagan does not do that.
Therefore he is actually has been poor as a half.

Copper Cronk (like Mahoney) would be trying everything during the game to generate attack and perhaps would Overplay their hand at times trying to hard.
But I would rather see that than the passive apathy from Flanagan.
 

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yeah i agree but maybe the number change could be good thing, i remember last year Keary and Walker switched numbers also. I reckon they will bring KO in the future, would be shit debut tho if was flogging from nicho and co. Start him against dragons or raiders which are not doing so good currently and are beatable
See, I would have thought it be better to give him 20mins of this Sharks game to ease him in but also most likely be part of the team on the back foot, get use to the speed of NRL and most likely chasing the game.

Then when he is handed over the jumper against Saints and Raiders, he is ready to rock with the knowledge of what NRL is about.

We don't want "inexperience" as excuses against Dragons and Raiders....
 

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Agree that the NRL360 review is the closest to being accurate in the intentions of CC.
What is pathetic is the pile on from the Flanagan haters.
So it's Flanagans fault that Thompson, Kikau, Brown, TPJ, and now Kiraz and JAC have been injured? That Averillo and King are carrying injuries?, that refs have murdered our chances in games by rubbish penalties, Preston to sin bin for nothing etc etc etc.
The reason we have 4 losses is Kyle Flanagan. The fact Mahoney overplayed his hand because he was vilified by hatred dripping Eels supporters, was again Flanagans fault.
The fact Burton drifts in and out of games? You guessed it.....Flanagans fault.
Here's a question....How good would Cooper Cronk of been as a half if he had a mediocre team around him, or an inexperienced team, or a mistake riddled team or a team struggling to find cohesion due to injuries? You lot would call for his head.
The fact is Flanagan has not played poorly this year. Many things have not gone his or our way. Yes he's made some poor 5th tackle options. Yes he's not a Cleary or Hynes or Reynolds. He's no worse than Souths Illes though in all seriousness....whose had the luxury of having a settled superior roster, with far more experience in Cook, Murray and Walker and Mitchell to assist him.
Sure our future lies with KO. When he's ready he will be promoted. It may come in the next few weeks....only the coaches know.
To me the message is more to Burton. This is your team, you've been made co Captain. Your the guy on the big contract, so go out and own the result each week. Every week. The message to Flanagan is, use your passing game and deception to swing right to left to set up the backs for attacking raids as Burton has seriously struggled to do that.
Flanagan also floats in and out of a game, doesn’t dig into the defensive line and pass, doesn’t grubber into the goal when attacking the line on the last just passes it out to averillo, doesn’t have the ability or speed to break a tackle.. I could go on. A halfback needs to do all these things well, Flanagan doesn’t, he’s a good defender but that’s about it. Time to give someone else a go.
 

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Burton being named in the 7 jersey in my opinion is a challenge from CC to both halves.
Burton at halfback could be CC challenging him to own the result more.
Flanagan being moved to 6, being told to run the ball or else the bloke in jersey 18 is coming for you.
Good call.. I like this thinking..
 

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With the number of injuries the club has, this move is going to achieve ZERO success on the field ATM.
 
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