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I think a lot of people will though. That’s why polling showed the majority of American voters would have supported sanders had his adopted party not completely screwed him over.... and you look st the way polling is going here... that suggests to me this alt right backlash isn’t as strong as it’s advocates like to boast. The alt right is gaining traction because of the failings of the neocons in liberal’s clothing.
Very true. Trump's win has been blamed on everything from rigged election to fake news. The fact is that a lot of misinformation helped Trump but he never would have been in that position if it wasn't for the American people being pissed off at the fake Liberals. Hillary didn't lose because she was a woman or because of the evil Russians. She lost because she was the next in a long line of fake Liberals that the American public hated. They hadn't forgiven Bill Clinton, and while Obama was actually really good for the country in regard to his health care act, he didn't help the financial situation of the country and he didn't help the unemployment rates. It also didn't help that he carried out more drone strikes than any President before him.

People voted Trump 'cause they were fed up with the way America was going. Not because it's a racist country, not because it's a sexist country. Because it's a country lead by fake politicians. I personally think totalitarian Socialism is a completely flawed and it has never worked but I honestly think Bernie would have done a better job. Pure Socialism will never work but a Socialist leading a non-Socialist country would have gotten to the heart of the problems. Except for the one main flaw. Bernie wouldn't have done anything to fix the debt crisis.
 

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Absolutely senseless. Mental Health is obviously an issue BUT SO MANY people there have mental health issues that we don't know of - the Las Vegas terrorist for instance. Mental Health illness isn't as clear as daylight. There are people who have it and don't even know it. So obviously the only way to deal with this is to BAN GUN OWNERSHIP FFS. More and more innocent people will die until something is done to change this.
 

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Absolutely senseless. Mental Health is obviously an issue BUT SO MANY people there have mental health issues that we don't know of - the Las Vegas terrorist for instance. Mental Health illness isn't as clear as daylight. There are people who have it and don't even know it. So obviously the only way to deal with this is to BAN GUN OWNERSHIP FFS. More and more innocent people will die until something is done to change this.
Yep. It's a multi-faceted issue. The American health system is crap so even if people wanted to get help, they couldn't afford it. People with mental health issues rarely seek help on their own until they do something like this. And guns can't be banned due to the Constitution. And even if they could change the Constitution, they can't because of the NRA backlash. The American public are screwed. It will keep getting worse and the problem will never be fixed.

In 50 years from now the general public will own rifles with smart bullets that can track and kill anyone you want from miles away and the NRA will still defend the rights of people to own these guns. There's no logic there.
 

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Yep. It's a multi-faceted issue. The American health system is crap so even if people wanted to get help, they couldn't afford it. People with mental health issues rarely seek help on their own until they do something like this. And guns can't be banned due to the Constitution. And even if they could change the Constitution, they can't because of the NRA backlash. The American public are screwed. It will keep getting worse and the problem will never be fixed.

In 50 years from now the general public will own rifles with smart bullets that can track and kill anyone you want from miles away and the NRA will still defend the rights of people to own these guns. There's no logic there.
Smart bullets? Oh man that would be the end of civlilisation as we know it. Won't that mean that anyone can be killed?
 

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Gone through your last few posts. For what it's worth I enjoy seeing you evolve into an objective thinker. Not that my opinion holds any weight lmfao
I've always been a pretty fair minded person I think, initially I just didn't want to show that side to you because you pissed me off. You are being a bit more reasonable these days. I still don't agree with you on many things, I'm sure.....but you've toned it down quite a bit recently, so it makes it easier for me to not crack the shits with you and tell you what I actually think rather than just fighting with you....that's my perspective, anyway.

But cheers.
 

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Smart bullets? Oh man that would be the end of civlilisation as we know it. Won't that mean that anyone can be killed?
Yep. But someone would create a counter to them. Scramblers, anti-missile systems, etc. It could still be pretty bad.

The things are actually in the developmental stage too but each bullet costs hundreds of thousands of dollars and they're not entirely effective yet.
 

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I've always been a pretty fair minded person I think, initially I just didn't want to show that side to you because you pissed me off. You are being a bit more reasonable these days.
It's the basic competitive nature of Realist Vs Cap'n Jack. They're both reasonable until they go up against each other then they drive each other to the extremes.

They have to stop doing it though. All this popcorn eating is making me fat.
 

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In 50 years from now the general public will own rifles with smart bullets that can track and kill anyone you want from miles away and the NRA will still defend the rights of people to own these guns. There's no logic there.
Lol, smart bullets ?
Bullets that only kill people with an IQ over 100 ?
That’ll leave only NRA members.
 

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Yep. But someone would create a counter to them. Scramblers, anti-missile systems, etc. It could still be pretty bad.

The things are actually in the developmental stage too but each bullet costs hundreds of thousands of dollars and they're not entirely effective yet.
They should test them on ISIS scumbags. Let them be the test dummys.
 

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They should test them on ISIS scumbags. Let them be the test dummys.
That's basically the plan for them. Right now they find a single target then send in a drone strike. They kill the target but also kill a bunch of innocent civilians. It's more logical to send a single bullet.
 

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I've always been a pretty fair minded person I think, initially I just didn't want to show that side to you because you pissed me off. You are being a bit more reasonable these days. I still don't agree with you on many things, I'm sure.....but you've toned it down quite a bit recently, so it makes it easier for me to not crack the shits with you and tell you what I actually think rather than just fighting with you....that's my perspective, anyway.

But cheers.
Lol I think it's a bit of both, me toning it a tad down and you not cracking shots straight away, breathing, assessing and then executing your objective thought haha.
But it just goes to show, when we involve emotions too much we don't even wanna show our true selves
 

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It's the basic competitive nature of Realist Vs Cap'n Jack. They're both reasonable until they go up against each other then they drive each other to the extremes.

They have to stop doing it though. All this popcorn eating is making me fat.
Oi my last few posts have been reasonable.
 

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Oi my last few posts have been reasonable.
True. That's 'cause instead of addressing Cap'n's points and saying that he's wrong you just laughed and thought "I don't even need to bother anymore. He's shooting himself in the foot"

You know it's true.
 

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True. That's 'cause instead of addressing Cap'n's points and saying that he's wrong you just laughed and thought "I don't even need to bother anymore. He's shooting himself in the foot"

You know it's true.
No.

Get off the fence
 

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True. That's 'cause instead of addressing Cap'n's points and saying that he's wrong you just laughed and thought "I don't even need to bother anymore. He's shooting himself in the foot"

You know it's true.
Essentially....... yes hahaha

But with you and utility arguing the points, had I interfered I would have ruined it lol.
 

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Essentially....... yes hahaha

But with you and utility arguing the points, had I interfered I would have ruined it lol.
Mate seriously

I'm overloaded at work and have been taking work home. And when I see that you don't understand the term fascist yet then i can't be bothered replying to you.

Two points

You don't have to be anti Semitic to be q fascist
I meant fascist enabler for shapiro in that his thought process and hence arguments are used by fascists even though that may not be his intention
 

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Mate seriously

I'm overloaded at work and have been taking work home. And when I see that you don't understand the term fascist yet then i can't be bothered replying to you.

Two points

You don't have to be anti Semitic to be q fascist
I meant fascist enabler for shapiro in that his thought process and hence arguments are used by fascists even though that may not be his intention
I was talking about people from the left directly calling Shapiro a nazi.

I understand that point, I can't be bothered going back to my post coz it's a page back lol but I was saying it's become a thing now that whoever doesn't agree with the left they're labelled either a nazi or a bigot. And it's ridiculous that a lot from the left more so the extreme left like ANTIFA calling Shapiro a nazi.

Also why are you stressed you can't comment here lol it's just a forum bro, you should be instead stressing about organising your wedding since gay marriage got voted yes haha
 
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I was talking about people from the left directly calling Shapiro a nazi.

I understand that point, I can't be bothered going back to my post coz it's a page back lol but I was saying it's become a thing now that whoever doesn't agree with the left they're labelled either a nazi or a bigot. And it's ridiculous that a lot from the left more so the extreme left like ANTIFA calling Shapiro a nazi.

Also why are you stressed you can't comment here lol it's just a forum bro, you should be instead stressing about organising your wedding since gay marriage got voted yes haha
Fuck antifag and anyone who supports them.

You don't agree with our fascist regime, you're a fascist Nazi....

Get fucked you uneducated, unemployed *****
 
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