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if he stays then great! but until we hear official word from the club.... we have to wait..

with the loss of players im sure there is dosh somewhere
 

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Stevie J said:
btw are we still currently tabling any offer to Anasta? Or was it ok we are going to lose u so we wont even offer you 200k anymore?
We picked up Holdsworth who'd easily be on $60,000 next year I believe.
 

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We picked up Holdsworth who'd easily be on $60,000 next year I believe.
ok but is the offer to Anasta still on the table and how much is it?
 

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main points i wanted to discuss:

Bulldogs five-eighth Braith Anasta has had a "how much is that doggie in the window?" tag on him since the season began......

.............willet says: "There's not a bad coaching staff at Easts and it would help his game," Willett adds.

Stuart is also NSW's State of Origin coach and representative football is obviously important to Anasta, who played in the second game in Sydney this month.

willet adds:

He doesn't want to leave his mates. [Bulldogs players] Willie Mason, Roy Asotasi, Reni Maitua [like Anasta, a Souths junior] are around at his place three times a week playing cards.

"It's the friendship of his mates versus the freight at Souths. If there is $250,000 different and you don't take it, you're a nut. But he's a smart kid and he'll know what to do."

There can't be a greater indictment of the NRL's anti-tampering laws than Willett's admission that "if we didn't have South Sydney's offer, he would probably have signed with Canterbury by now".

The system creates rumour, distrust, subterfuge and deceit. Coaches trust their rivals more than managers, phoning a rival coach to assess the veracity of a rumour one of their players is talking to another club. "The principle that your employer has first crack at you is a good one," says Gallop. "The ability to enforce it has always been problematic."


source: http://www.smh.com.au/text/articles/2005/06/24/1119321908834.html?oneclick=true
 
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Whats that link?

To register for the Crappy Morning Herald?
 
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England, rugby and subterfuge are making a mockery of league's anti-tampering laws, writes Roy Masters.

The search for halfbacks before June 30 in the NRL resembles a teenage soap opera: the blond-haired beach boy dumps his steady girlfriend in order to secretly ask out the class beauty, only to discover his potential new flame has the hots for someone else flirting with her.

How Shakespeare would love the NRL, with its Twelfth Night-style messages left lying around for potential suitors to read.

Manly gave halfback and captain Michael Monaghan the cold shoulder while fluttering their eyelashes in the direction of Melbourne's Matt Orford as he was fielding offers from English club Warrington and, presumably, South Sydney.

Monaghan, despite earning a man-of-the-match award in the round-13 clash with Sydney Roosters, feared he was unwanted and was forced to approach Warrington before Manly decided to take him back.

Orford had read the script before: he was the Northern Eagles halfback when they dumped him for Brett Kimmorley, who was then at Melbourne, forcing Orford to join the Storm. This time he told them all to take a cold shower and decided to play the field.

Five-eighths also figure in these soaps, all of which are illegal, of course, because the NRL has an anti-tampering rule that prevents clubs from approaching players at rival clubs with offers prior to June 30.

Bulldogs five-eighth Braith Anasta has had a "how much is that doggie in the window?" tag on him since the season began. The NSW pivot considered an offer from rugby union before rejecting it and asking for permission to negotiate with the Rabbitohs ahead of the June 30 deadline.

His manager, Greg Willett, insists he has not received an offer from Sydney Roosters for Anasta but it's not only the Dogs who are barking that he'll go to Bondi Junction, it's the whole damn zoo.

The June 30 deadline is supposed to protect clubs by giving them an opportunity to re-sign a player before anyone else can approach him. But, judging by the low number of players given permission to negotiate early and the high number of players joining English clubs, the system isn't working.

Only two players - Roosters Chris Walker and Michael Crocker - have been given dispensations to talk to other clubs and Crocker has a clause in his contract allowing him to do so.

The exodus of quality players to English clubs - which are not bound by the NRL anti-tampering rules and can take advantage of the exchange rate by offering huge amounts - must worry Australian clubs working under a salary cap.

And it's not as if the June 30 deadline rewards clubs who abide by it. Brisbane's Berrick Barnes, a young five-eighth described as "the next Wally Lewis" signed with the Queensland Reds rugby union franchise last week before other NRL clubs had even had a chance to talk to him.

When Wendell Sailor and Lote Tuqiri switched to rugby union, the Broncos whined that not enough was being done to help keep them in rugby league, but their silence over Barnes has been almost deafening. Could it be that they are relieved he won't be lining up against them for the Cowboys or the new Gold Coast team that is joining the NRL in 2007?

Anasta's $500,000 offer from the Rabbitohs was communicated to him by South Sydney leagues club president George Piggins, who is his uncle. Piggins is not deemed a club official and therefore doesn't breach the anti-tampering rules by making an indicative offer.

"The figure Braith is looking for to play at Souths, I believe can be raised at Souths," Piggins said. "We can put a longer time frame on it. Souths are anxiously waiting to talk to him." Many would say Souths, via their most famous official, Piggins himself, have already done just that.

Willett says: "Braith, George, Noelene [George's wife] and I had dinner and we talked about him going to Souths. When George said Souths were prepared to offer $500,000, I nearly dropped the rhubarb crumble on a good tablecloth.

"I'd like to sign him for five or six years. Three million dollars would be fantastic. But what if he signs and has to live at Umina if Souths move to Gosford?

"We've got to find out who else Souths are getting, who they are keeping and whether they are moving to the Central Coast. We've got to find all that out but we can't do it until June 30. Still, I'd like the negotiations to drag out because I like Noelene's rhubarb and apple strudel with ice cream."

Although player managers are notorious for blurring ethical lines and the NRL's rules are eminently exploitable, Willett maintains all his negotiating has been above board.

"I spoke to [NRL chief executive] David Gallop and told him of my talks with George and he deemed it was not anti-tampering," Willett says. "I was talking to [Bulldogs chief executive] Malcolm Noad every day he was in Greece [on recent holidays].

"I told him about the dinner and he agreed it wasn't anti-tampering. But the big question is whether George has the authority to tell me Souths will make a big offer. I've heard $800,000. If they give me that, I'll put Braith on my back and swim around there."

Last Friday, Willett received a phone call from Piggins. "George told me a director at Easts [the Roosters] had said Braith had signed with Easts," Willett says.

"I've never spoken to [Roosters chief executive Brian] Canavan or [coach] Ricky Stuart. The only thing I've got from Easts is that [player manager] Wayne Beavis told me we would be getting an expression of interest from them. But I haven't got it formally."

Beavis is close to Phil Gould, the Roosters' coaching director, and, although it would be possible for Beavis to receive an offer from Bondi Junction on behalf of Willett, it would still be illegal because Gould, unlike Piggins, is a club official. The NRL knows its postmen. Willett says: "Everyone in the outer keeps telling me Braith is going to Easts but I've had no discussion with them. He's had shaky times with Easts in the past but the people involved are not there now."

Anasta and centre Justin Hodges had an uneasy on-field relationship when Hodges played for the Roosters before returning to Brisbane. Interestingly, their peers believe the talents of both players are exaggerated.

Anasta was voted the code's most overrated player in this week's Rugby League Week poll, with 31 per cent of respondents naming him. Hodges was last year's "winner" with 23 per cent and is second this year with five per cent.

"There's not a bad coaching staff at Easts and it would help his game," Willett adds.

Stuart is also NSW's State of Origin coach and representative football is obviously important to Anasta, who played in the second game in Sydney this month.

"If Braith had played Origin last year, he'd have probably gone to rugby union," Willett says of a $300,000 sign-on fee plus $200,000 incentive deal with the Waratahs/Wallabies.

"But it came down to what he hadn't done in rugby league. He's done everything else. I've heard Canberra want to give him an offer. But Braith's a city boy and I can't see him going there, even if there is $200,000 different.

"He doesn't want to leave his mates. [Bulldogs players] Willie Mason, Roy Asotasi, Reni Maitua [like Anasta, a Souths junior] are around at his place three times a week playing cards.

"It's the friendship of his mates versus the freight at Souths. If there is $250,000 different and you don't take it, you're a nut. But he's a smart kid and he'll know what to do."

There can't be a greater indictment of the NRL's anti-tampering laws than Willett's admission that "if we didn't have South Sydney's offer, he would probably have signed with Canterbury by now".

The system creates rumour, distrust, subterfuge and deceit. Coaches trust their rivals more than managers, phoning a rival coach to assess the veracity of a rumour one of their players is talking to another club. "The principle that your employer has first crack at you is a good one," says Gallop. "The ability to enforce it has always been problematic."

While the June 30 date is arbitrary, it was introduced in response to North Sydney in 1997 signing Newcastle's Adam Muir and Balmain's Glenn Morrison 18 months before their contracts ended.

"You could envisage a situation where a young player comes into the game, he's got two years to go, he's a superstar and all clubs are trying to get him," Gallop says. "That's going to be very difficult for the game."
 
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Bulldogs duo the big prize in feeding frenzy

Willie Mason and Braith Anasta have both been offered the Bulldogs' only remaining $50,000 sponsorship payment for marquee players in a clear sign that the club is resigned to losing at least one of them.


While the club continues to talk to both Anasta and Mason, the first to sign will get the deal and there won't be enough money left under the salary cap to retain the other.

Centre Jamaal Lolesi is also likely to leave the Bulldogs, who have spent the majority of their available funds this year on retaining representative stars Sonny Bill Williams, Andrew Ryan, Willie Tonga and Reni Maitua as well as Corey Hughes and Adam Perry.

Williams, who knocked back an offer equivalent to $900,000 a season from English Super League club St Helens, received the other $50,000 third-party arrangement the NRL this year agreed to allow each club to pay to two of its five most highly paid players.

Where Mason and Anasta end up deciding to play next season is going to be one of the most keenly followed stories after the June 30 anti-tampering deadline expires at midnight on Thursday.

But as high-profile representative stars worthy of big-money contracts, their options are limited in a market in which few rival clubs can afford to accommodate more than one such additional player.

Cronulla have a strong interest in Mason and South Sydney are talking to Anasta through his uncle, George Piggins, while the Roosters have been linked to both - as well as Rabbitohs pair Ashley Harrison and Scott Logan and Sharks forward Keith Galloway.

But even after losing veteran captain Luke Ricketson, Queensland back-rower Michael Crocker and New Zealand prop Jason Cayless, the Roosters are unlikely to be able to afford more than one big-name recruit as none of the trio is on big money.

After almost retiring last season because of salary cap restraints, Ricketson's contract is not much more than the $100,000 exemption he is entitled to for playing 10 years at the club, while Crocker and Cayless were signed as little more than fringe first graders.

Former Queensland winger Chris Walker has not been made a new offer and the Roosters are keen to release halfback Brett Firman if he can find a new club but they are also trying to re-sign Maroons utility Chris Flannery, whose stature in the game demands he earn a vastly increased contract.

In addition, Craig Fitzgibbon and Anthony Tupou have automatic upgrades in their contracts, while the club has

re-signed Brett Finch and Iosia Soliola and is negotiating with 10 other members of last year's successful Premier League and Jersey Flegg teams.

By contrast, Souths have more than

$2 million of contracts due to expire at the end of the season and are expected to snare Melbourne's Matt Orford and Steve Bell, while Anasta and Galloway are also in the club's sights.

With St George Illawarra set to re-sign Test prop Luke Bailey for one more year, Cronulla have set their sights on Mason and have released Michael Sullivan to Warrington and Andrew Lomu and Jason Williams to Canberra, while David Peachey is off to Widnes and Jason Stevens is retiring.

The Sharks are also in the market for a centre, but have baulked at the asking price of Brisbane's Shaun Berrigan and are looking to England where Wigan's Brian Carney and Mark Calderwood of Leeds are among a number of players keen to play in the NRL.

Carney's friendship with Matthew Johns is believed to be swaying him towards joining Newcastle, while Calderwood has been linked to Manly, who are yet to re-sign Chad Randall, Luke Williamson, Shayne Dunley, Steve Matai and Paul Stephenson.

Wests Tigers also have Ben Galea, Anthony Laffranchi, Shane Elford, Todd Payten, Matt Jobson, Matthew Rieck and Robert Miles unsigned, while captain Mark O'Neill has been told his contract won't be renewed.

Having snared Raiders prop Ryan O'Hara, the Tigers are negotiating with Carney and Crocker, who is widely tipped to be the Storm's major recruit, but expect to retain most of their off-contract contingent - as do the Knights, who are prepared to let up to a dozen unsigned players test the market.

Brisbane, the Bulldogs, Canberra, North Queensland, Parramatta, Penrith, St George Illawarra and the Warriors do not expect to be very active in the player transfer market after spending the first half of the season retaining most of their current player rosters.
 
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There can't be a greater indictment of the NRL's anti-tampering laws than Willett's admission that "if we didn't have South Sydney's offer, he would probably have signed with Canterbury by now".
YOU F'ING THINK SO?
 

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main point i wanted to discuss:

willet says: "There's not a bad coaching staff at Easts and it would help his game," Willett adds.

Stuart is also NSW's State of Origin coach and representative football is obviously important to Anasta, who played in the second game in Sydney this month.

willet adds:

He doesn't want to leave his mates. [Bulldogs players] Willie Mason, Roy Asotasi, Reni Maitua [like Anasta, a Souths junior] are around at his place three times a week playing cards.

"It's the friendship of his mates versus the freight at Souths. If there is $250,000 different and you don't take it, you're a nut. But he's a smart kid and he'll know what to do."

There can't be a greater indictment of the NRL's anti-tampering laws than Willett's admission that "if we didn't have South Sydney's offer, he would probably have signed with Canterbury by now".

The system creates rumour, distrust, subterfuge and deceit. Coaches trust their rivals more than managers, phoning a rival coach to assess the veracity of a rumour one of their players is talking to another club. "The principle that your employer has first crack at you is a good one," says Gallop. "The ability to enforce it has always been problematic."
 
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Dream come true if Anasta signs! Can't wait for the apologetic posts from kennel members
 

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braith was going to resign with us until his stupid uncle of his offered him that much money and willet told anasta not to sign anything with us.
 
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500k is alot to think about! I don't blame anyone for waiting to discuss that!
 
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Dogaholic said:
Dream come true if Anasta signs! Can't wait for the apologetic posts from kennel members
no apologies needed :D lol
 

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thats not new news...thats something that i read in the paper last week & still doesnt emphasis anasta's position
 
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