4 plays that stifled our attack (Round 3)

[KiwiDog7]

SOS to Maloney

 

[Moedogg]

Hindsight is a beautiful thing but what we would give for an experienced half right now FFS

Even a one year deal until Burton arrived

Yep. I was calling for Benji or an experienced half to guide the team around the park.

 

[Dawain87]

Thank you very much for the in depth insight!!

 

[Bashman]

Well done on a great post. Young halves always stuff up from time to time. They'll get better. This will all be a memory in a couple of years. If Flanagan scores that first try from the Elliott break, we're talking a very different ball game

 

[dogwhisperer]

Well done on a great post. Young halves always stuff up from time to time. They'll get better. This will all be a memory in a couple of years. If Flanagan scores that first try from the Elliott break, we're talking a very different ball game

Our 2004 side would of put 50 on that broncos side

 

[Bashman]

Our 2004 side would of put 50 on that broncos side

It wouldn't have been pretty. In saying that, the 2004 side was littered with rep players and future rep players compared to this one. We've got two world class backs joining us next year. Just need to add a couple of forwards who run hard and we'll creep our way back up the ladder.

 

[Bulldogsteve]

Spot on there, flannigan is not playing what’s in front of him, there were several times he should have went out the back instead he hit the lead runner where the defender had already committed.
He need to read the game better. That is just practice and getting used to the players around him.

 

[Spoonman84]

I actually take a bit of heart out of the fact we are actually creating the chances and with better decision making we will convert them.

 

[BULLDVGS]

I actually take a bit of heart out of the fact we are actually creating the chances and with better decision making we will convert them.

Paraphrasing here but as Baz said "its not so much about the result but about the process"

 

[dogwhisperer]

Spot on there, flannigan is not playing what’s in front of him, there were several times he should have went out the back instead he hit the lead runner where the defender had already committed.
He need to read the game better. That is just practice and getting used to the players around him.

You either have it or not, and I'm talking about Vision on the field for a halfback.
Isn't it amazing how a 22 year old can play footy for like 18 years(basically all their life) but when it comes to picking out the right person to hit they keep getting it wrong.
I'm sure Flanno knows who to hit in the back line on an attacking play, but maybe he's not used to FG being much quicker where you have to make your decisions much sooner.
There was one play there in the first half where Avo got the ball 10 meters on the last and just froze and got creamed, even before he got the ball I can see the grubber in the in goal was on but just didn't react quick enough. The game is so much quicker for these young kids coming through. They just need the experience of playing FG week in week out.

 

[Bulldogsteve]

You either have it or not, and I'm talking about Vision on the field for a halfback.
Isn't it amazing how a 22 year old can play footy for like 18 years(basically all their life) but when it comes to picking out the right person to hit they keep getting it wrong.
I'm sure Flanno knows who to hit in the back line on an attacking play, but maybe he's not used to FG being much quicker where you have to make your decisions much sooner.
There was one play there in the first half where Avo got the ball 10 meters on the last and just froze and got creamed, even before he got the ball I can see the grubber in the in goal was on but just didn't react quick enough. The game is so much quicker for these young kids coming through. They just need the experience of playing FG week in week out.

he has got it and he has showed it, he just took the wrong options on the weekend by not playing the play in front of him. He might have been setting up the out the back play by hitting the lead runner several times, but then we never got the opportunity to mount pressure. But he needs to play the play, we dont get enough football at the moment to play long term.

 

[CrittaMagic69]

he has got it and he has showed it, he just took the wrong options on the weekend by not playing the play in front of him. He might have been setting up the out the back play by hitting the lead runner several times, but then we never got the opportunity to mount pressure. But he needs to play the play, we dont get enough football at the moment to play long term.

Well he has this week to prove it...Jake and Allan not so much

 

[Sloth]

My dumbass was trying to press play and watch the play

 

[BULLDVGS]

You either have it or not, and I'm talking about Vision on the field for a halfback.
Isn't it amazing how a 22 year old can play footy for like 18 years(basically all their life) but when it comes to picking out the right person to hit they keep getting it wrong.
I'm sure Flanno knows who to hit in the back line on an attacking play, but maybe he's not used to FG being much quicker where you have to make your decisions much sooner.
There was one play there in the first half where Avo got the ball 10 meters on the last and just froze and got creamed, even before he got the ball I can see the grubber in the in goal was on but just didn't react quick enough. The game is so much quicker for these young kids coming through. They just need the experience of playing FG week in week out.

haha man youve just made an argument at the start and contradicted it by the end. i agree with how you ended

 

[dogwhisperer]

haha man youve just made an argument at the start and contradicted it by the end. i agree with how you ended

Man, the first two lines wasn't really about Flanno, more about young halves in general.
Then the third line was more about giving Flanno the benefit of the doubt, saying "I'm sure Flanno knows who to hit" then I've gone on to say maybe it's just that FG is quicker and that these guys may need time and experience to handle the pace in FG.
Sorry if it didn't come out right mate lol

 

[Neptunez]

Has anyone else noticed when we kick off our team stands exactly 10 metres behind the kicker forcing them to run an extra 5 metres to the ball carrier? Its a small thing but just another worrying trend so far under Tbaz. I’ve noticed no other sides stand that far back at kick off

 

[Berries]

Problem with decision making comes from a lack of experience. I'm sure Benji would've made a difference.

Benji could not set up a try at the Dragons to save his life and that team was 100x better than ours

 

[B-Train]

Great analysis Aristidiz. It's nice to get some constructive tactical analysis on here.. This just further highlights what Barrett was talking about. That it's about a lack of execution and not huge problems with the shape or style of attack.

Flanagan needs to engage the line and make smarter decisions no doubt, but there were also several times Allan and Averillo stuffed up when they did get their chances with the ball.

The worst butchered try was in the second half when we finally offloaded near their line, had a 3 on 1 and captain Jackson stepped back on the inside and got tackled by two players when all he had to do was draw and pass. The whole team has no footy IQ, plays with a blindfold on and makes selfish plays.

 

[Jai81]

Thought I'd review some of our attacking plays from Round 3, after highlighting the errors that lead to tries yesterday.

Flanagan made multiple wrong decisions which stifled our attack when we managed to get inside the opposition 20, there has been alot of criticism of Averillo, however I think he wasn't fed the ball from his 7 at the right times.

1. Averillo makes a good catch and pass to create a 2 on 1, Cotric takes it himself and leaves Meaney wondering why he didn't get a clear run in the corner to score. This one is on Cotric not using his winger.
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2. Averillo has space and room to make a draw and pass for a try in the corner, instead Flanagan tries hitting Meaney in the corner but makes a terribly slow floating pass to Meaney, allowing the defence to run over in cover and kill the play.View attachment 22553View attachment 22554

3. Flanagan hits Waddell in the chest instead of using his fullback out the back where he would have created a 3 on 2 with his centre and wingView attachment 22556

4. Flanagan takes a hit up whilst Averillo waits out the back ready for the pass running a line which would have created a 3 on 1 on the left edge for an almost certain tryView attachment 22560

well done mate, great review! Thanks for sharing this.

 

[All Hail Mitch]

You're 100% right and it's something I've been concerned with since the trial. All the good ball is going through Flanagan and unfortunately for us he simply isn't up to the role at this stage and it's impacting everyone else's game. His decision making is poor, he doesn't engage the defence, he doesn't seem to be able to bring others into the game, etc. If I have to see him drift across did one more time and aimlessly dump it back to a forward with the defence in his face I'm going to break my TV.

Baz claimed there's nothing wrong with the system, but imo it looks like he's trying to get the team to run before they can walk. This has resulted in us failing to score a single point in back to back games and a side totally devoid of confidence.

The drift across and dump on the inside for a forward to get smashed has been a standard of ours for the last couple of years, Lewis is another specialist at this. Really is a useless play that I would like to never see again.