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Des needs to look outside the square because with the team roster we have that performance is embarrassing.2014 new year need attitude.

Finally the pain is over...we have a strong roster but that alone don't make wins...we acted like spoilt brats out there.ennis is the captain and he was a crying like a baby all game.hopewe attract a fb after that display...might get cold feet

Softest try of the season....a appalling performance.worst of the year

Dumb arse team...dumb arse coach

P,rot hard has dominated games to on the back of some assize hits but yes Eastwood is I portant

Locke could be the easiest to get if Tompkins goes to the warriors.locke still has improvements in him but he's a dangerous fullback.with another season under his belt he's going to be better for it.hes got great vision and runs good lines.

Eastwood was awesome in last years finals and you may get past him but you don't go over him.hes a solid unit who can step up for the big games.his footwork is good and expecting him to step it up again soon come finals.;

Trent played well.hes getting better and better and pretty strong too.if everyone played as well as Trent tonight then the result would be different.

The big question is...why has des not ripped the doors off yet?he had a very good case for it today.come on dessy fire up and maybe our sleeping giants will.

Bad refs...bad performances...bad night. How many dropped balls were there?we can't just win on names only.there needs to be respect for the ball.as soon as we lost kasiano our go fwd was reduced.we didn't play as team but individuals trying for the team.morris is not the answer at fb at this...

Hodkinson played well as did Graeme and prichard.eastwood tackled like a powder puff on that last play...and really what impact does halatau have...where's the 2 bench prop players.tim brown has earned a bench spot in IMO

Pathetic from dogs and refs. Both not up t standard.no game plan today.

Who are the retards in the Vedio box ?

No grabbers theses days

morris is struggling at fb...

Seriously make a front on low tackle on kasiano at 138 kg 6 6 at 93 kg and you will probably be knocked out in a hurry.to even make that comment is backwards.todays players are bigger,faster,and payed professionals.you can't compare back in the 60 s with today.lol

With Hodkinson fixing our halts problem the fb position in really our real concern at present.can we shuffle our side to have to use Morris at FB and keep lafai or do we try and get another fb.there seems to be a few decent players around so hopefully we can get a gunn fb.most of the players...

If we can wake up our fwd pack we have 5 current international Feds and the biggest players in Sam,t Rex and Pritchard,Eastwood in the back row...not to forget James graham the freak.

That's better.simple but smart...our pack will munch theirs

Dumbarse dogs....and seriously why is T. rex even out there.if he's got passion and is giving 100 per cent it's not showing.and if we are seriously thinking about getting to the gf there needs to be some real effort and some smarts.

Poor manly....boo hoo.seriously they need to man up.they were put played but got some lucky bounces.their Feds were bich slapped of the field.

Hodko was mom in my opinion.his last tackle options and organisation have really given the side direction.hes getting better with every game. As for a 8 min spell I don't agree.i would put brown of the bench and us him properly .why?hes big and mobile and gives us another 112kg prop on the...

He also cleaned up a ball at the goal line from memory under pressure.seems to be very good under pressure which is pleasing.basically he's the halfback we have needed to settle the side.

We dont

Manly missed king....who plays dirty lol

Hodko also cleaned up a manly kick at the line under pressure.seems to be very goog under pressure and did set up a few of our tries like pritchards....happy with his growing influence on the team

Manly rolled the dice on the last tackle and were very lucky...apart from that we were the better side.our Fwds dominated but jut Mandy's last tackle chop kicks etc caught us off guard...next time we need to watch the last tackle plays.

Hodko very calm under pressure.thats what you want from a half...but heck our d was good but the manly last tackle plays killed us.

Onya hodko

the refs try that one...tab

Some very silly penalties from players who should know better.if we can keep a level head we will win.des won't be happy with petty penalties which we could avoid...like Ennis late tackle.silly.

Was surprised at how good hiss last tackle kicking options were.when he put the bombs up the opposing fullbacks/wingers have had pressure put on them.the last tackle pressure option is something that the storm excel at but if we can get somewhere close to their level will give us more chance of...

Good points When he kicks on panalties he makes more metres upfield Kicking goals are awesome...didn't know he was a sharp shooter Passing a lot sharper His last tackle kicks are on the money...high pressure kicks Looking like he's starting to control better Defence is very good Overall I'm...

Personally I think Trent is a sharper passer and has a better last play kick.the sharks had problems with his kicking game.he still needs time to develop his position in the team but on the flip side kk would be very useful of the bench.he could be used as a utility half/hooker which would give...

Passing game is faster and last tackle pressure kicks were good.want to see more running but that will come in time.he will settle n and he should then control the plays more.

Watch the roo s at night.been working up lightning ridge so seen a few road kills there.

Early days but his passing game is a lot sharper and his last tackle plays have been good.with graham/kasiano returning he will get more space to do his stuff.he adds a real halfback to the side but think kk would be a good option of the bench as utility half/hooker.

Would be a gunn signing.he would be awesome next to Reynolds.hes a hot head but he was the best player in England 2011...not easy.

He's a hothead but can play.hes come a long way since st georgendays and has a passing game,running game and steps.he won 2011 man of steel and can push the boundary in defence with some aggressive tackles.very much worth a go if we can get him.

Des..Williams to the bench...after 20 min let him on.simple

After 1 game you can't judge.why not put kk on the bench and have both.we have no dummy threat and last years tactics are not working.we need to address our punch in the middle of the field.do think souths,storm without their crafty hookers.

Trust me ask Pritchard and kasiano about what happened.there are some problems at the club that need to be addressed but you can't win with bad coaching...why is Williams not on the bench...and last years tactics with no fwd domination...holefully we get through this storm

Why is Williams still not on the bench...embarrassing his fall from dangerous rep player. Why spend overs on Feds and not a good hub. Why do we always do the wing kick in goal...almost never a result Why do we not have a running hooker on the bench

Based on one game you would have a lot of guys out there in nsw cup.seriously we do need more but Hopkinson didn't miss those tackles or drop the ball over he line.give he time but put kk on he bench as he's quote effective of the bench and could be used at dummy...but really half the team...

True and he didn't have te cattle tbh

Too depressing tbh.des has not done anything creative with our attack and serously no dummy half threat.enns tackles hs heart out but that's it.why is Williams not on the bench...he actually was too tired to fall over the try line...sad days.

Browns gotta go.shocking

He's played ok.trouble is we need to have some inside plays.we look a lot better if we can just hold the ball.

You might be surprised...just hope Trent proves himself if rumours are true.not sure how his speed is but I thinking we might find out this wk...lets see.

Try Hopkinson and put Keating on bench.hodkinson gets a chance to prove himself and Keating can cm on and play dummy half....and hopefully get us a running game in the ruck.

Last year is just that.the game moves quickly and coaches need to be. On the pace.injuries aside teams have us covered at present and that must change.we need new plays to counter the defences which are giving Barbara etc no time.we need smarter last tackle options and not so predictable.no...

It's actually highlighted what weakness we have in the halves.but des won't try Hopkinson or try different plays to counter the fast line speed.we really look bland.

Because they seem to put their body on the line lol

Williams is 116kg.he needs to be coming off the bench because as I have said before.he is bigger than almost every prop and not many props can go for 80 min...maybe tolman but he is only 107kg and hardly bends the line...so put Williams on the bench and see how he plays then

We have been out played and out smarted.very predictable and no real purpose.williams looks like he's going to have a heart attack and should be off the bench.our last tackle options are poor and don't surprise any team.no short passing inside balls or anything to counter the fast d on our...

By years end our pack should sort it's self out.i think the pack will prob be tarpau,Tolman with graham,kasiano,klezmer/brown of bench...so we have too many giant props coming through.

Yeah you would pick it if from nz.many Maoris are half cast and have Anglo parents so you can get blonde hair blue eyes and still be a cuzzy bro.

Im a kiwi but many think I'm Leb...too much time in greenacre I guess and my wife's Leb lol.

Maori if I'm correct

True...Eastwood,perrett,Williams,halatau,inu,kasiano,taupau,low,lanai to name a few.

He might come back at 140 kg.hope he's staying away from KFC.

Steve price was going strong at 30+ as was brad thorn.depends of the players attitude and health etc.

It's possible that we will have tarpau,klezmer,Williams coming of the bench which would be pretty awesome.i always though the best thing that can come out of the loss of Kay's/graham/Pritchard would be the blooding of tarpaulin,klezmer.

Tbh did not need Williams but will see what he does.he is best used as a bench impact fwd so he's not catching his breath.

Good side but is Williams a better fit than Pritchard at 600 grand?

Some clubs are gonna go bust if they keep wasting money.600 for a prop.over inflated big time.if para keep paying overs for players what do they pay the others.

Need franks exp to help josh and fun?if we can keep most of this unit together we will be strong for a while imo

Do they have talent scouts at that club.?they have become souths of old where nobody wants to go there.poor management.

They should have retained klezmer.no foresight at the eels.

Taupau has been getting better with every game.getting up to the speed of the game and doing all the little things well.noticed he's been doing a lot of tackling around the ruck and not getting dominated.hope we keep him because we will have a great fwd rotation IMO.

Williams to slow to defend in centres.116kg bigger than most props.he needs to realise he's a bench impact. Player.cant have impact if you are always chasing your breath.

This is a well balanced side.youhave a strong back row with a consistent improving front row.taupau settling in very well and klemmer will take time(got dominated in defence but big enough to fix that).williams will be a lot fresher of the bench as 80 mins he's just making the numbers.as for...

Need better marker running game Need better short passing game Need to try inside plays to counter defences up and in Need better last tackle pressure options.watch Melbourne last tackle play and how much pressure they put on fbs and how many repeat sets they get Williams to the bench as he's...

Though tapau did very well again with solid defence and plenty of runs.klemmer was dominated a few times in defence which at his size should not happen but he's still raw.but I'm a little worried with our attack not gelling well.adam Reynolds was the difference in my mind.

Romero on the bench would give us a fresh option of the bench .ennis defends well but his attack is limited so the injection of a new face would help.imo

Apparently kk is to good to be replaced....has defending teams shaking in their boots lol

Keating is to slow to pass,too slow to run,too slow to kick...Hopkinson must be pretty bad if he can't be better than Keating...honestly he has 0 surprise factor but yet he surprises me every week being picked in the team...amazing

Need a halfback to direct this side.can get up the other end but no direction in attack.pls find us a half back des...pls

If chase was available could be a good player for des to mould...plays hard and good passing game and can attack....he won man of steel 2011 so he's got to be a better option than the current...was having dramas but who knows...just need a half.

Early days but in a few years he will fill his body and will be 125kg + .

Halfback and we have an awesome doggies team...which will be feared.

Lol no spellcheck...having a shocker

It rumour was floating around...but then there's other it rumours too.the dogs have the management to get the player we need surely.we get a good halfback then we get a go win.

My bad on the spellcheck...tapas sounds like a Greek fob and klezmer a nazi lol

Give our current pack some time and will say our pack will be more feared than he 2004 pack.we have easily a bigger pack and you have to remember its still progressing. We have 5 current internationals and we have 3 players who are in the top 5 in size and 2 of them are current internationals.we...

The best thing for the dogs will be the progression of tapau,klemmer,and low.they all did well considering we were playing a top 4 side with thurston and the Australian front row..im pretty sure des will be happy with their performance and give them a month and there are going to be more cattle...

Fb is such a major position.i would stick perret/turner because of the experience factor.low to the wing.

If it cms not much chance of betting him at no 7.would look to other clubs fast.

Sbw was part of a long term plan...and you know what happened there.lol

Might be a release for 2014.apart from loving the dogs.ennis may not be the captain if the jt rumour comes true.its all speculation but you can bet on one thing...Greenberg and hasler have the smarts and power to attract topline players.if you have strong management you have a strong club...only...

If jt and izzy cm then there will be players lost to some capacity.ennis would probably demand more money somewhere else like tolman and not sure what the dogs have let on the cap.thus remolo comes in cheap and young tarpau/klezmer have a chance to prove themselves.its all speculation but...

Thurston would be a good captain.im hoping these rumours pan out.not confirmed but big rumour.

Wonder if we get. New captain soon...hmmmm

Confirmation thread...would be very limited indeed.

Rumour thread.could be bs but may be true. Hoping cause we need a half badly.

If jt wants to win another gf then going back to the dogs where he first won would be a dream.hes got the side around him and the coach.apparently the panthers offered more but it's not all about money.we will see how this pans out...but we need a general just to lead our side.

Rumour is jt has signed with dogs for less and izzy has too.if true we will lose some players But heck we have too many gun Fwds anyway.im hoping this is true cause what a side indeed.

Has anyone heard the jt and izzy rumour...just rumour but hey any things possible.

Manly play hard I ythe Fwds but would suggest a few players want payback from some high shots.glen Stewart put in a few dirty shots on tolman and graham...problem is our boys get straight up and dont stay down like Haynes or hodges...but yeah manlys got that toughness imo

He may be struggling with the speed of the game and that may take time as he's a big unit.lets give him time as hasler can bring out the best.