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That's much less than the 75 per cent of nursing home COVID deaths related to nursing homes according to your own figures. Those figures don't really support your narrative of an aged care system in crisis.
Pffft what would you know???????

You're just jealous you can't misread graphs the way he can!!!!!
 

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Never trust sources like Marjorie Greene and Sean Parnell. They deliberately peddle misinformation. Dr levine never issues a directive for people who still had COVID to be returned to nursing homes. She issued a directive that thos who were found to have recovered
It's important to be accurate.


Aged care residents who were 'stable' (but still positive with the virus) were forced back into their aged care homes and further spread the virus
 

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Oh for fuck sake
Just imagine, there were people watching the inauguration expecting the Feds to race up the steps and arrest Biden after he had been sworn in. Because they needed the last final act of being sworn in to complete the treason of stealing the election. And then Trump was going to appear from behind the curtains and take over for another 4 years

LMFAO

Yes there are people who believe this and yes these same people vote
 

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Off The Rails Chapter 7 from Jon Swan:
Trump turns on Pence. For a guy who crapped on about ‘loyalty’ this was the ultimate betrayal of his most loyal subject - until Pence finally accepted what many knew: Trump only cares about himself.
The books and expose`s and confessions by Trump's staff of his Presidency will be tremendous. Bigger than anyone has ever seen. It's gonna be a bloodbath as they all try and cash in and absolve themselves from the madness of the emperor with no clothes.
 

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Just imagine, there were people watching the inauguration expecting the Feds to race up the steps and arrest Biden after he had been sworn in. Because they needed the last final act of being sworn in to complete the treason of stealing the election. And then Trump was going to appear from behind the curtains and take over for another 4 years

LMFAO

Yes there are people who believe this and yes these same people vote
I guess AlzzBulldog would be in a corner pulling his dick rocking back and forth screaming Hahah sheeple it's not over
 

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Never trust sources like Marjorie Greene and Sean Parnell. They deliberately peddle misinformation. Dr Levine never issues a directive for people who still had COVID to be returned to nursing homes. She issued a directive that thos who were found to have recovered could return to their homes....given COVID was testing hospital capacity, what else would you expect her to do? Also, she made the decision to remove her mother from her home montrhs later as deaths were increasing....after consulting her....ie she did what any responsible person would for a parent who was of sound mind and expressed a desire to be moved

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check...health-pick-contribute-elderly-deaths-1562802

To cut straight to the finding.

There is no evidence to support Greene's claim that Levine placed coronavirus-positive patients in nursing home facilities, thus likely contributing "to the thousands of elderly deaths in Pennsylvania."

It is true that coronavirus nursing home-associated deaths have risen in the state.

However, although Levine serves as the Pennsylvania secretary of health and was active in that position when the state's health department issued the guidance to nursing home facilities saying they can accept patients from hospitals and patients who formerly had COVID-19, that does not prove she placed coronavirus-positive patients in nursing homes or contributed to thousands of elderly deaths in the state.


To accuse someone of mishandling a situation is one thing.....but you're using words like massacred? You must be really upset today, because that is hyperbole to the point of absurdity. Typical bullshit taken directly from the same old full of shit sources.

Relating to your other point to Wen re percentage of deaths in nursing homes.

On Tuesday, the Pennsylvania Department of Health issued an update stating there have been 19,467 coronavirus-related deaths statewide.

Of the deaths, 10,022 are associated with nursing homes and personal care facilities in Pennsylvania, according to recent data from the state Department of Health.


That's much less than the 75 per cent of nursing home COVID deaths related to nursing homes in Au according to your own figures. Those figures don't really support your narrative of an aged care system in crisis.
btw what are your thoughts on the 25th amendment being used to impeach and remove Rachel Levine as acting health secretary (assuming the Senate approves her nomination).

The constant narrative when Trump was around was that if you are mentally unwell you need to be removed from office.

Rachel Levine has a confirmed mental condition (gender dysphoria).

Should she be impeached?
 

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It's important to be accurate.


Aged care residents who were 'stable' (but still positive with the virus) were forced back into their aged care homes and further spread the virus
Nursing care facilities must continue to accept new admissions and receive readmissions for current residents who have been discharged from the hospital who are stable to alleviate the increasing burden in the acute care settings. This may include stable patients who have had the COVID-19 virus.

Who have had, not who have. There's nothing in here that states patients still testing positive should be released back to their homes. Just that those found to be stable who have had the virus should be readmitted....and necessary iso guidelines as supported by the CDC should be followed when dealing with re-admissions who have been treated for the virus. A little ambiguity in the wording, I suppose....perhaps the word recovered should have been used in place of stable, but the words who have had are clearly an example of past tense. Nothing about this fact check seems innacurate based on the info you just provided.

And once again, the percentage figures for nursing home related deaths in PA just don't add up with your narrative.

Oh and who dafuq are you to preach to anyone about the importance of accuracy? Lol
 

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Trump lowered taxes overall for everyone.
His jobs growth was one of the highest precovid outbreak
First president since Carter to not enter us troops into a new conflict, he actually bought troops home.
 

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Nursing care facilities must continue to accept new admissions and receive readmissions for current residents who have been discharged from the hospital who are stable to alleviate the increasing burden in the acute care settings. This may include stable patients who have had the COVID-19 virus.

Who have had, not who have. There's nothing in here that states patients still testing positive should be released back to their homes. Just that those found to be stable who have had the virus should be readmitted....and necessary iso guidelines as supported by the CDC should be followed when dealing with re-admissions who have been treated for the virus. A little ambiguity in the wording, I suppose....perhaps the word recovered should have been used in place of stable, but the words who have had are clearly an example of past tense. Nothing about this fact check seems innacurate based on the info you just provided.

And once again, the percentage figures for nursing home related deaths in PA just don't add up with your narrative.

Oh and who dafuq are you to preach to anyone about the importance of accuracy? Lol

"In Pennsylvania, about 65% of coronavirus deaths were nursing-home residents, and in counties in the hardest hit southeastern part of the state, long-term care residents account for as much as 80% of county deaths.".

"As of June 2, at least 79 percent of COVID-19 deaths in Pennsylvania involve residents of nursing homes and long-term care facilities, and this may not even be the full story. Gov. Wolf and his administration continue to lack transparency and honesty in the reporting of COVID-19 deaths at these facilities, making it hard for all Pennsylvanians to understand the full impact of COVID-19 on our Seniors"

"During a May 21 press conference, PA Secretary of Health Rachel Levine falsely claimed that the guidance requiring these admissions and readmissions came from the federal government, specifically the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS). I took these claims very seriously, and personally inquired with both federal agencies; bottom line – no such policy existed/exists. Never during the pandemic did the CDC or CMS advise state officials to require the admission and readmission of COVID-19 positive individuals into long-term care facilities. "

 
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