Opinion Our club is not an attraction anymore

[Spoonman84]

As far as Im concerned we attracted Foran...a NZ international, Napa a Qld State of Origin rep, DWZ the NZ captain and CHN another NZ representative. Yeh your right...we cant get good players to come to our Club. We missed out on Ramien, API, Herman Esse Esse...sorry I missed what rep side they were in. Its obvious.....we cant attract the better players.....Yeh right. The drivel that so many of you contributors spew out of your mouths is just putrid. Give yourselves a collective uppercut.

Player managers determine where players go these days. They feed constant fake news to the media to create false markets for players and bidding wars between Clubs. Players may decide their preferred Club for any number of reasons quite early in the relocation process, but the manager will create false expectation with the non preferred Clubs just to extract a higher price from the preferred Club. This can go on for weeks or months.Thats why we put a deadline on Ramien. He was never coming to us, nor was Api, the Turbo boys or Mitchell.

If you think paying huge overs for a busted player when there was no other team interested is attracting a player there’s nothing else to say. You give yourself a uppercut and hopefully you can knock yourself out so you can’t dribble anymore shit.

 

[Spoonman84]

They have a top 4 roster

That’s debatable they have no hooker, five eighth, backline is week apart from Ponga and their front row is pretty average.

 

[Phalangist]

That’s debatable they have no hooker, five eighth, backline is week apart from Ponga and their front row is pretty average.

No they have a top 4 side if we had there squad we win the comp

 

[Spoonman84]

No they have a top 4 side if we had there squad we win the comp

Can’t agree with that they have some massive holes in that roster.

 

[Bad Billy]

Every. Fucken. Day.
One of these threads.

 

[axeman23]

I agree with you I’m not against paying overs for a player that we could build the club around and take the club to a new level. I just don’t see Api, Ramien or Ese’ese as those type of players.

Yeah, this is pretty much where I'm at: We will almost certainly need to over-pay 1 marquee player, and a second if they present themselves. That's fine, and when we have our star/s, the "piece" players will fall around more easily. But I also agree that paying overs on mid-range talent is not the way to go. Api, Ramien and Ese are all mid-range talents in the broader scheme of things, just because they're better, or POTENTIALLY better than what we have there at the moment, doesn't make them "can't miss" signings that we need to go all in on.

 

[wendog33]

Every. Fucken. Day.
One of these threads.

Start some threads of your own. We'd all like something different. What's your next thread gonna be about?

 

[Wolfmother]

How come were so competitive in the junior comp ? Obviously attracting talent there

 

[Wolfmother]

Every. Fucken. Day.
One of these threads.

You've changed man.. You bad

 

[Shire Dog]

Unless we sign a higher profile coach then the club needs to be prepared to pay overs to lure quality players......

I think your correct about the coach,
Players will also factor in other things before signing a contract
It seems like almost every player is trying to gain top dollar or overs
We can’t blame them for that,a career in football doesn’t go on forever
Our management need to be smart,unlike years ago
We have paid a very hefty price

 

[NallaC]

I disagree with paying overs atm . Lets build a foundation then attract quality when our window is open. Its about rebuilding a club for long term success. Personally i feel we are on track. Its just a long long road to success.

 

[B-Train]

Ramien, Api and Ese Ese are definitely not players worth getting into bidding wars for and cap fucking ourselves for another few years.

Players like Papenhuyzen, Fifita, Latrell etc are absolutely worth paying overs for and making them huge offers that other clubs can't match is our only hope in recruiting players of such quality.

The problem is, aside from CHN and DWZ, we need a few more exciting players to join the rebuild before we recruit for 2021 to help entice those top line talents to join. Another issue is how many top line players want to play under Pay? Whatever your opinion of him is, there can be no doubting the top clubs have a huge advantage in having established top line coaches which would help massively in recruiting players.

 

[AlzzBulldog]

Every. Fucken. Day.
One of these threads.

Nothing but facts, deal with it

 

[KLil]

What we need is one of the best guys in the comp to socialise with who has a bunch of mates who are guns.


Either that or three sets of brothers who can play tough, smart footy.

 

[Shire Dog]

Ramien, Api and Ese Ese are definitely not players worth getting into bidding wars for and cap fucking ourselves for another few years.

Players like Papenhuyzen, Fifita, Latrell etc are absolutely worth paying overs for and making them huge offers that other clubs can't match is our only hope in recruiting players of such quality.

The problem is, aside from CHN and DWZ, we need a few more exciting players to join the rebuild before we recruit for 2021 to help entice those top line talents to join. Another issue is how many top line players want to play under Pay? Whatever your opinion of him is, there can be no doubting the top clubs have a huge advantage in having established top line coaches which would help massively in recruiting players.

I’m not really expecting too much for next year in regards to recruitment
But 2021 is an entirely different ball game
Management has stated on numerous occasions that things will be back to normal with more money to spend
There are 2 points of focus on my mind for the following year
Pay proves himself with good results and structures,if not board take action
The second issue is that we bring in at least 2 or 3 top line players
Not fringe
Our great club has been dwindling away for ages
It’s not good enough to be honest,I grew up watching a club that stood tall and was relentless
Would fight till the death on that field

 

[Matilida]

paying overs is paying ash taylor 1 million, bryce cartwright 600,000. If you pay overs you can never be successful. It is painful to watch missing out on players but we have players here that want to be here.

 

[Riggs80]

End of the day , to sign another player from another club if you are not top 4 with a chance of winning the comp you have to pay overs
The trick is the amount of overs paid and quality of player and position they play.
The two Newcastle players are duds imo and api my concern a few injuries of late , has been usurped by a 19 year old and no longer plays 80 but a hooker is needed.

Now if you look at the knights as the example of paying overs , what they get the lunatics running the asylum and the roster is unbalanced they just kept trying to get wins if buying players not really looking at how it compliments the side otherwise they wouldn't have Mann and Watson who are utility players ( one is enough not two )

 

[albatross]

I'm also glad we didn't try to outbid Penrith for Api. We should never pay overs for middle of the road players. However if $1 mill is overs for Fifita I'd pay it everyday. He's a very rare player. Doesn't matter whether he's in the spine or not, he's a match-winner just like the best spine players. He's also young and will be a forward leader for years, making every player around him a better player. The best player on the market easily.

 

[wendog33]

Also should we consider our recent history of offloading players mid contract, or only months into a contract in Woods case, affecting our ability to recruit new players?

Would player managers be very wary of us and factor in that to their players?

It's in the past but it takes time to regain trust and confidence.

It's not the new Board's fault. They did a good job clearing out the deadwood to fast track a resurgence but that issue may see us hampered for a bit?

 

[sgodllubsti]

What we need is one of the best guys in the comp to socialise with who has a bunch of mates who are guns.


Either that or three sets of brothers who can play tough, smart footy.

most of those quality young players have all played in rep sides and club games together or against each other, they are all close away from footy too, you can be sure if 1 has had a bad experience with a board or recruitment person they would all talk about it