The Coach to Build a Dynasty

[Mitchellmoses]

You can have Ricky Stuart for free , I’ll even pay his relocation costs

Deal!!!

 

[bulldogsmyte]

Bennett and Bellamy are the best coaches out there no other coach comes close ,just look at the past with other teams , people dreaming to think there is a messiah of a coach out there that can turn our team around they all short term solutions

Bennett is past it. In the last 10 years Bennett hasn't won a comp while Robinson has won 3. Only Bellamy has matched Robinson's GF wins.

 

[Bazildog]

You can have Ricky Stuart for free , I’ll even pay his relocation costs

No thanks

 

[Dannyboi88]

Daniel anderson Is in charge of recruiting at the roosters flanno snr we need a hard nose coach

 

[Mitchellmoses]

Are we beyond poaching a coach from a competitor?
Stuart, Holbrook and even Bellamy I think are attainable for different reasons.

 

[Aristidiz]

Are we beyond poaching a coach from a competitor?
Stuart, Holbrook and even Bellamy I think are attainable for different reasons.

Stuart ain't leaving Canberra and Holbrook just ain't any good. Bellamy has too big an ego to work under Gus

 

[rexest]

We took the dragons trash (dufty) now people want to go into the sharks bin and get Morris lmao ah the kennel

 

[Chris Harding]

Problems with Flanagan is his son his not the long-term option

His son has shown more potential than any other half we've tried.

 

[racin jason]

Why have two people mentioned John Morris, his win % with this Sharks squad minus Hynes is 47%, he is an assistant and that's it. Some of the coaches in that list had some very average squads with better win rates

I don't think I would have him as a head coach but certainly I'd have him to get the unfit fucks back into NRL standard shape.

 

[Stinger]

Cameron Smith… no better footy brain going around other than Bellamy!

I think Barrett has a pretty good footy brain. He just doesn’t know how to manage his team and turn a game plan into training drills that lead to results on the field on game day.

 

[Stinger]

You know, what has he really done so bad?
A. He emailed a player when banned? Big *expletive* whoop.
B. Peptides.
I know that’s a big deal for some, but cmon. It’s not like players would be strung out of their head. Needles all over the change rooms and tourniquets ties to players arms as they are slumped in a chair dribbling.
All he did was have the (smart) initiative to invest in a sports scientist to gain an edge through fitness and optimum performance and he placed his faith in a sports doctor taht ti this day, believes he didn’t break any laws.
Peptides are not drugs. They facilitate cell growth. It’s a grey area, much greyer then than now.
Flanno ain’t Stephen Dank and Dank didn’t even think he was doing anything wrong and I don’t think he did either when looking at the laws at the time.

The only true negative at the time was It potentially aggravated Jonny Manna’s cancer death. A Lebanese player who died and who I was friends with in real life.

Good post. Fair point.

 

[wendog33]

I love the idea of Ennis involvement with the club. I think his footy brain is a good one. I don’t think we can go with a rookie coach next time around as our head coach however.

Unfortunately he is already also working as an assistant at Parra. So he isn’t going to come over to a basket case also as an assistant. He is also earning to good a wage at fox to be put himself in the coaching hot seat.

I think Flanagan is the only real option. As much as he comes with some baggage. He is the hard nose coach we need to escape the mediocrity. If he came along with Ennis & someone like Marc Brentnall as assistant coaches. With a good Strength and conditioning coach. With the squad we are building. We could turn things around quickly.

I think Barrett is just way out of his depth as a head coach. He is a coach from a text book. You need to work with the players skill set that you have to work with.

The situation with Kyle is the main drawback, if that can be settled and organised with Dad well beforehand so all parties know where they stand.

We cant have yet another coach insisting on faves over better players...or...stopping the recruitment of a replacement half bc incumbent is his son.

Thats my only concern that it could cause problems next year if we really dont want to extend Kyle.

If Shane can accept that his son may not be fulfilling the 7 role to the club's advancement, then Shane seems def our best option of any coach that may be available.

Dream is Bellamy but next best is Flanaghan it appears ...if....Gus isn't prepared to FIX the deficiencies in Baz' coaching OR doesn't believe he can help Baz.

All hinges on Gus so get movin' Gus, one way or ta other.

 

[From the area]

There’s a lot of support for Flanagan but why? I don’t really see any reasons for him besides being experienced.

Here’s why I wouldn’t go near him

-Hasn’t been a head coach or a regular assistant since 2017 which is a huge length of time given the amount of changes in the game.

-Questionable cap management as he left the Sharks in a Des style mess with expensive long term deals for players like Aaron Woods, Josh Dugan and Matt Moylan.

-We are locked in with Kyle as halfback and his return to NRL doesn’t leave me with much confidence he will ever be a long term option. This has potential to be a very big issue.

-He’s hardly a revolutionary coach and mainly relied on dragging teams down to the Sharks level through the wrestle and spoiling tactics.

-His one premiership had a lot of luck behind the assembly of the roster with the perfect players becoming available at the right time. There’s also a salary cap cloud hanging over it. Lighting hasn’t come close to striking twice for him before or after.

-Then there’s a whole ASADA debacle and his suspension. It’s low hanging fruit to pick apart Flanagan for this but he still carries baggage from it. The other 5 points directly relate to what impact (or lack of) he could have at the Dogs.

You’re salary cap defence won’t be an issue at Belmore with Gus on the books. The rest of the argument could possibly be true. But at the end of the day I ask you this. Of what’s AVAILABLE NOW who would you take? Barrett or someone else?

 

[Bazildog]

TK is baked because of Baz.

• Bellamy is never coming
• Stuart is Canberra and then finished as a coach
• Hollbrook has the best forwards in the comp and some pretty handy backs and is nowhere.
• Robbo is at the Chooks unless Nick dies (but if Gus could steal him I wouldn’t be upset)
• Everyone else is locked in, used damaged goods, usless or is an assistant only.

I think the pool to chose from is Flanagan, Woolfe, Shaun Wane, John Morris, Ciraldo and possibly Mick Ennis. Or perhaps a combination of any of the above. Any of them would be a step up from Barrett Flanagan/Morris/Ennis or Wane/Ciraldo/Ennis sound pretty good.

PS or really left field what about Ciraldo/Morris/Ennis all in a coach off over 2 seasons under Gus as head coach with the winner to replace him in 2024..Get Netflix to do a series

 

[kmr07]

There’s a lot of support for Flanagan but why? I don’t really see any reasons for him besides being experienced.

Here’s why I wouldn’t go near him

-Hasn’t been a head coach or a regular assistant since 2017 which is a huge length of time given the amount of changes in the game.

-Questionable cap management as he left the Sharks in a Des style mess with expensive long term deals for players like Aaron Woods, Josh Dugan and Matt Moylan.

-We are locked in with Kyle as halfback and his return to NRL doesn’t leave me with much confidence he will ever be a long term option. This has potential to be a very big issue.

-He’s hardly a revolutionary coach and mainly relied on dragging teams down to the Sharks level through the wrestle and spoiling tactics.

-His one premiership had a lot of luck behind the assembly of the roster with the perfect players becoming available at the right time. There’s also a salary cap cloud hanging over it. Lighting hasn’t come close to striking twice for him before or after.

-Then there’s a whole ASADA debacle and his suspension. It’s low hanging fruit to pick apart Flanagan for this but he still carries baggage from it. The other 5 points directly relate to what impact (or lack of) he could have at the Dogs.

People also forget the impact Barba had. Barba almost individually won us a premiership in 2012 and granted he was nowhere near that form in 2016, there were still moments of brilliance that season which saved the Sharks.

 

[wendog33]

Gus won't poach off Uncle Mentor Nick...unless Rorters want to get rid of someone.

 

[JUNKYARD DOGS]

Seibold and Cam Smith

 

[wendog33]

People also forget the impact Barba had. Barba almost individually won us a premiership in 2012 and granted he was nowhere near that form in 2016, there were still moments of brilliance that season which saved the Sharks.

So your coach suggestion is?

No one loves SF.

But who else, is experienced (and has runs on the board) enough and can take the heat of turning this rabble around, is out there?

 

[Spoonman84]

You’re salary cap defence won’t be an issue at Belmore with Gus on the books. The rest of the argument could possibly be true. But at the end of the day I ask you this. Of what’s AVAILABLE NOW who would you take? Barrett or someone else?

I'd take Ciraldo.

He's done a legitimate apprentiship at a strong club with a strong focus on junior development. The Dogs want to become a development club and Cam has vast experience developing players in the lower grades. There won't be any issue working with Gus and he already has a relationship there from working together at the Panthers.

I know people will be against appointing a rookie but it's not an issue for me. An experienced coach is just as much chance of failing as a rookie.

How's Hook working out at the Dragons? He's experienced and its a disaster.

 

[Big D 168]

Neil Henry anyone.
My choice.